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There are 10 messages in this issue of Spectropop.

Topics in this  Digest Number 126:

      1. Gloria Jones
           From: Will George 
      2. Re: Scott English/Laurence Weiss
           From: "Timothy" 
      3. More on "Dream Girls"
           From: "Brian Davy" 
      4. Re: Ruby & The Romantics' "Your Baby..."
           From: LePageWeb 
           From: Carol Kaye 
      6. Foggy Waterfall
           From: tymespan
      7. Dream Girls
           From: John Frank 
      8. Weiss-English
           From: lindsay martin
      9. Re: Murmaids
           From: "Peter Lerner" 
     10. Re: mastered Beach Boys
           From: "Lo, Levin" 


Message: 1
   Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 09:55:25 EST
   From: Will George 
Subject: Gloria Jones

> Gloria Jones RIP (who was married to the guy 
> who sang Bang A Gong)

She was married to Marc Bolan of T. Rex??? The only song
I know by her is Look What You Started, which is a Jackie
DeShannon composition. Does anyone have any history on

Will George

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Message: 2
   Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 17:28:40 -0000
   From: "Timothy" 
Subject: Re: Scott English/Laurence Weiss

In January 1967 PYE released The Searchers recording of
the English/Weiss composition "Popcorn Double Feature"
as the A-side of a U.K.45. In December 1965 PYE released
The Searchers album "Take Me For What I'm Worth" which
contained "Does She Really Care For Me" written by


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Message: 3
   Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 19:27:34 -0000
   From: "Brian Davy" 
Subject: More on "Dream Girls"

A photo of the truly awful front cover, complete with
track listing, can be found at:


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Message: 4
   Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 07:30:10 +0900
   From: LePageWeb 
Subject: Re: Ruby & The Romantics' "Your Baby..."

Phil Chapman wrote: 

> Ruby & The Romantics' "Your Baby Doesn't Love You
> Anymore". The only credit on my 45 is writer: "Weiss" 

What a great track it is too. Thanks.

> The production has the flavour of Jerry
> Riopelle/Teddy Randazzo.
I hear the Teddy Randazzo flavour, but I don't get the
Riopelle reference. Can you elaborate?


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Message: 5
   Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 14:39:09 -0800
   From: Carol Kaye 

FYI, the online radio/video interview I did recently at (about Brian Wilson, Phil Spector, many
many other stars we all recorded for) is now available --
Part 1 is up and running and there's times when I play
the bass too during the interview, tho't you'd like to
hear this:

Carol Kaye

PS.  There's a Ceremony Tribute happening at the Ritchie
Valens Recreational Center on Sunday March 25th from 1PM
to 5PM also in Tribute to Ritchie Valens.  Most of us are
giving speeches, playing etc.....Earl Palmer, Stan Ross,
Bob Keene, myself others who were fortunate to know and
work with Ritchie.

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Message: 6
   Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 19:21:09 EST
   From: tymespan
Subject: Foggy Waterfall

I have an acetate of  a song "Foggy Waterfall" with no
artist listed. It's a great pop psych song with 2
female vocalists. The same song turns up on the Rhino 
History of the Left Banke LP (in a rather lame version).
Does anyone know if this was officially released & who
the artist was?

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Message: 7
   Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 19:13:36 -0800
   From: John Frank 
Subject: Dream Girls

>The original Dream Boy series has
>these marvelously sweet renderings of pattyduke/
>shelleyfabares/sallyfield sorts of girls, as innocent as
>they can be (albeit rendered in a style that owes a
>disconcertingly lot to Varga--I hope you get what I mean
>when you see it).
>On the other hand, the newer Dream Girls cover, if I can
>go by the b&w scan I gratefully received, features a much
>trashier sort of chick in a daisy duke sort of outfit,
>cuddled up uncomfortably close to a six foot tall candy
>bar.  Hope I remembered this right.

Hmm. The "Dream Girls" I have displays a photo of three
women facing what's meant to be the ocean, backs to the
camera, long, wet hair, thong bikinis, no tops. More
like Jennifer Lopez on a bad day than anything having
to do with the Girl Group era.
>Where to find the Dream Girls cd?  Well, there's always

>But here's another source:  Discollector Music Group.
I've ordered from Discollector a lot -- but never from
their website, which I find too clunky. I call them
directly -- they're friendly, knowledgeable, and fairly
priced. They can tell you if an item's in stock when you
order, and let you know approximately when you'll get it.
They often advertise in "Discoveries" magazine. Phone:
(303) 840-9373 or (303) 841-1118.

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Message: 8
   Date: 12 Mar 2001 22:51:35 -0800
   From: lindsay martin
Subject: Weiss-English

"Phil Chapman" 
> Subject: Scott English/Laurence Weiss wrote:
>  quick search at
> lists Laurence Weiss as the sole writer of Ruby & The
> Romantics' "Your Baby Doesn't Love You Anymore"
> Where is it listed as "Weiss-English"?

Sorry, Phil, I didn't mean to imply that the song was
"Weiss-English", I was referring to the fact that "Weiss"
in any form, in any songwriting credit, arouses my
interest, even when, in this case, it is just a solitary

> You mention Lynn Randell's "Ciao Baby" - I'd always
> assumed this was an American recording, 

Indeed, Lynne Randell recorded "Ciao Baby" in the U.S.,
but as far as I know it was a hit only here in her home
country of Australia, so we usually adopt it as an
Aussie track: not technically true, but sentimentally
sound.  The same applies, for example, to many of the
Easybeats' tracks which were actually recorded in the
U.K. (including "Friday On My Mind", but it was just the
tip of one wonderful iceberg). It was quite common for
Aussie acts to head for the U.S. & U.K. and try their
luck, often recording in those countries.  (Much as
Spain's Los Bravos did to produce "Black Is Black".)

Lynne Randell was an ex-hairdresser from Melbourne
(discovered in her salon, the story goes) who had
several hits at home before going to the U.S. where she
toured in support of the unlikely combination of Jimi
Hendrix & The Monkees.  Her style was maybe somewhere
around Lulu or the other female solo pop singers of the

Australia's Raven Records has issued a best of which has
some nice work on it, including the usual covers of
non-Aussie songs, but well worth a listen (not sure if
it's still available).


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Message: 9
   Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 20:21:12 -0000
   From: "Peter Lerner" 
Subject: Re: Murmaids

Hi! this my first email to spectropop so be nice to me.
You'll find I know a great deal about Jackie DeShannon
and not much about anything else.

Anyway, I think Will is talking about "How do you do it"
(the song that charted for Gerry and the Pacemakers) by
The Ladybugs on Chattahoochee 637. The Ladybugs are
Jackie DeShannon and the Murmaids. The B-side,
"Liverpool" is an instrumental. These Ladybugs are
probably contemporary with, but definitely not the same
as, the Ladybugs on Legrand 1033 whose Fraternity USA /
Who sent this love note is a hilarious spoof on the

Speaking of Jackie DeShannon, as I often do, her live
show at the Bottom Line NY last Saturday was fabulous.
Jackie was on such good form. Review to appear on the
Jackie DeShannon Appreciation Society Newsletter and on
their website.

Peter Lerner

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Message: 10
   Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 05:03:00 +0100
   From: "Lo, Levin" 
Subject: Re: mastered Beach Boys

Dear Spectropop members,

Anyone out there who knows more details about the
remastered 2-in-1 Beach Boys albums from Capitol
(releasing in March & April)?  

Are there any substantial differences between these and
the 1990 releases? Would there be any "remixed stereo"
ala Pet Sounds Sessions?  Any unearthed bonus tracks
since 1990? Is it Mark Linnett, or someone else, who's
doing the remastering this time?

I'd really appreciate your help.  Thanks!


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