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Sound-a-likes From: Paul Urbahns ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 1 Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 09:35:13 -0500 From: "radiopro" Subject: JACKIE DESHANNON - 'THE HIP 60'S COMEBACK GIRL' > > I was one of those who saw Jackie on Letterman > > the other night. Was I disappointed! I got the > > feeling that Jackie was too Sixties to appeal to > > Letterman's top demographic group, those 20 and > > 30 year olds who can't relate to Jackie. > > IF they wanted to, it wouldn't take much for > Letterman and Shaffer and others like them to make > Jackie DeShannon into THE hip 60's comeback gal. Those > 20 and 30 year olds (which really isn't one demographic > group) will relate to pretty well anyone they're told > to relate to. As long as you say "She's hip", "She's > the real thing", "She's more real than all these > plastic folks you're listening to these days". > > There was something feeble about the way she was > presented, I agree with that. In the early 80's I went out for a "Talent Scout" evening in NYC with a man who managed a number of successful performers and producers. He had what they call "clout" in the Music Industry. He was always looking to add to his "roster" of clients and had been persuaded by someone to check out a singer from the '60's who was hoping to get a record deal and make a "comeback". She was appearing at a small club near The Village (maybe 200 capacity) and I was really looking forward to seeing her because she had been known for the energy of her live performances. The club was packed. She was amazing! I said..."David, someone ought to try to make something happen for her. She needs some songs, but certainly has "the rest of the package". David said...."Too old". A year or so later I heard she got her record deal. Her "comeback" album became a huge hit and suddenly she had a brand new career. Fortunately she found someone, an Australian of all things, who believed in her, found the songs and moulded the "image". Today....I still love to remind David about the time we went to see Tina Turner when she was "too old". Of course there are dozens of others with talent that never get that "comeback" chance...or if they do....get lost in "the shuffle". Often it's "timing" for sure, but I'd also argue that it has a lot to do with management who, among other things, will make sure that The Talent isn't (as you say) presented "feebly". --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Message: 2 Date: 18 Jan 2001 19:22:01 -0800 From: lindsay martin Subject: The Orchids/ Blue Orchids This started when I asked at the rec.music...1960s newsgroup about the '64 British pop clip movie "Just For You". A British girl group called the Orchids appeared in it singing "Mr Scrooge". I remembered the song well, but knew nothing about them. A web search led me to a page on the Orchids at http://www.spectropop.com/go2/orchids.html . They were produced by Shel Talmy; other songs included "Love Hit Me", "Oo-Chang-a-lang", "Don't Make Me Mad", "I've Got That Feeling". They were released in the US under the name of the Blue Orchids. ...And then on to an earlier Spectropop thread from last September about a girl group called the Orchids and their songs "The Harlem Tango" (Goffin-King),"That Boy Is Messing Up My Mind" (Barry-Greenwich) and "Christmas Is The Time To Be With Your Baby". I know the Spectropop thread mentioned "Mr Scrooge" and "Just For You" but I have a hunch - and it is just aq hunch - that we may be talking about two different groups here. It would certainly explain why the "Mr Scrooge" Orchids changed their name to the Blue Orchids for US consumption. Hey, I may be completely wrong here, but no doubt someone here will have more to go on than a hunch. Cheers, Lindsay --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Message: 3 Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 21:50:52 -0000 From: "Kingsley" Subject: Hey Baby...It's Cosmic Good to see recognition of "What Am I Gonna Do With You (Hey Baby)" on our site. Aren't Russ Titleman songs always great?? Has anyone ever attempted a complete listing of his songs from that era anywhere? Point me to it if so.. Whilst on the subject of "Hey Baby", as well as the lovely Chiffons version of this song, there is also a great version by The Inspirations on the Black Pearl label. I keep being unable to decide which I like best of the last two which both beat Miss Gore for me in either version. Also, Spectropoppers should certainly look out for the new Free Design album. It will be on the Marina label - the guys that did the Caroline Now compilation CD. And it is luvverly!!! A must for most of the people on the site I suspect. By the way. the Poptones label here in the UK snuck out two limited 7" singles with one track each from the four Boettcher related albums - Curt, Sandy S, Millennium and Joey Stec. Only 1000 copies of each, there may still be a few around... Kingsley Abbott --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Message: 4 Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 19:24:33 -0500 (EST) From: Claudia Cunningham Subject: The Peppermint Rainbow My boyfriend recorded me a song called "Will You Be Staying After Sunday (Or Go Home on Monday)" and I swear it sounds like Spanky and Our Gang. The group was Peppermint Rainbow from the late 60's..very peace and love-soft rock which was personified by groups like Yellow Balloon, Liz Damon's Orient Express, Lemon Pipers and Sandpipers. The groups simply reeked of love beads, daisies in the hair and all things paisley. We have a bet going....I say it's Elaine McFarland (Spanky)....anyone? Claudia --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Message: 5 Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 07:49:57 EST From: Paul Urbahns Subject: Sound-a-likes Paul Urbahns listed just the Phil Spector sound-a-likes recorded by Hit Records in the 60s. > He's A Rebel by The Gleams > Da Doo Ron Ron by Alpha Zoe > Then He Kissed Me by The Dacrons > Second Hand Love by Connie Dee (actually Connie Landers) > Be My Baby by The Georgettes > You've Lost That Lovin'Feeling by Wayne Harris > (actually Bobby Russell) Hans Kit asked: > Are these tracks good/interesting copies of the original > or were they "flat" cover versions? Paul Urbahns replies: There is nothing "flat" about the girl group stuff as it features Boots Randolph on the sax breaks and he was just as good or better than any sax player Phil ever had to work with. The Hit Records arrangements were made to "sound" like the originals but Bill Justis was arranging them for the limited players used in a typical Nashville session and no overdubbing was permitted at that time by the Musicains Union in Nashville. So these are kinda like "live" in the studio recordings. --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- End
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