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  • From: The Spectropop Group
  • Date: 3/17/98
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          SPECTROPOP
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     Vol #0054    03/20/98
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      Visual Sound Stereo
    
    
    
    
    Subject:     Re: Inherent Quality of Music
    Sent:        3/16/98 3:45 PM
    Received:    3/17/98 1:10 AM
    From:        BashPop, BashXXX@XXXXXXm
    To:          Spectropop  List, spectroXXX@XXXXXXies.com
    
    From:        Brent Kubasta, bkubaXXX@XXXXXXccc.edu
     
     > Bash wrote:
    
    >>if indeed there is inherent quality in music, ...it 
    >>has existed in the same measure in every decade.
    
    > Couldn't agree more.
    
    << couldn't *disagree* more. 
    
    no problem with the acknowledgment of "inherent quality in 
    music" in every decade. but to assert that "it has existed 
    in the same measure in every decade" seems a bit over the 
    top.
    
    such a perspective logically implies that when comparing 
    decades there will therefore be no peaks, valleys, golden 
    eras, or renaissance periods. after all, the level of 
    quality exists "in the same measure" in each decade, right?
    
    i don't bring this up because i favor one decade over 
    another. indeed, anyone is free to prefer what they prefer. 
    i mention it because i don't think such a, shall we say, 
    qualitative equilibrium is possible in any artform. how 
    could it be?>>
    
    Hi Brent,
    
    You bring up a valid point, and perhaps I should have amended 
    the phrase "same measure" to read "similar measure". With 
    that in mind, I stand behind my assertion that the quality 
    level between decades is not significantly different, and that 
    most people who cite a particular decade for being heads or 
    tales above the rest are doing it with a bias that is very 
    difficult for them to escape from.
    
    <>
    
    This may indeed be true, but couldn't someone say that about 
    the 70s as well, or even the 80s or 90s? Okay, perhaps the 
    term "rock 'n roll" would have to be qualified a bit in those 
    decades, but who says "rock 'n roll" has more inherent quality 
    than another form of pop music?
    
    <>
    
    Good point about the 45 being the only game in town, and 
    thereby causing albums to be more limited in quantity than 
    they may be now. Still, many people could make just as long 
    as list, if not a longer one, from other decades. Those 
    people may not be on the Spectropop list, but that doesn't 
    make their opinions any less valid.
    
    <>
    
    I'm sure there are plenty of people in the world, at least a 
    few million, who wouldn't feel that "magical feeling" at all. 
    Certainly I'm not here to say that I don't feel it, because I 
    do, but I'll admit to being biased by my own life's 
    circumstances. What about people who are under 20 years of 
    age, like we were in the 60s. What, their opinions don't 
    count?
    
    <>
    
    I will agree with you that the 60s was probably rock 'n roll's 
    most brilliant and creative decade but if you look at my 
    original post, I used the term "music", and not rock 'n roll. 
    Even if I had used the term "rock 'n roll", I'd pretty much 
    stand by my original contention. If today's albums don't hold 
    up with the albums of the 60s, a major reason for that might 
    be inherent in the fact that rock 'n roll was, as an album 
    medium, in its embryonic period then. There was so much that 
    was new to discover, and there will always be a built in 
    fondness and rememberance of that kind of time. 
    
    As for Brian Wilson's quote, as much as Brian Wilson is far 
    and away my favorite music writer, isn't it obvious that he is 
    a victim to the exact bias I have been referring to?
    
    <>
    
    Me neither!
    
    <>
    
    Well, I'm a fan of stereo over mono, but I do submit that 60s 
    albums, if they existed on vinyl in both formats, should be 
    reissued on PVC that way. Most 60s albums are under 39 
    minutes long, so they could comfortably fit in both formats on 
    a 78 minute CD. Several of them, as you know, have been 
    reissued that way already, and I love it!
    --
    Spectropop Rules!!!!!
    Take Care,
    David
    
    ---[ archived by Spectropop - 03 /20/98 - 11:31:26 AM ]---
    
    Subject:     Bobby Vee
    Sent:        3/16/98 7:07 AM
    Received:    3/17/98 1:10 AM
    From:        Doc Rock, docroXXX@XXXXXXom
    To:          Spectropop  List, spectroXXX@XXXXXXies.com
    
    Bobby Vee DID record "It Might As Well Rain Until September." 
    It ended up on his "Night Has A Thousand Eyes" LP, along with 
    another original record, "Go Away Little Girl." Bobby had too 
    many songs that were too good to put them all out on 45s, so 
    people like Carole and Steve Lawrence had the hits.
    
    ---[ archived by Spectropop - 03 /20/98 - 11:31:26 AM ]---
    
    Subject:     Liberty Records
    Sent:        3/16/98 7:07 AM
    Received:    3/17/98 1:10 AM
    From:        Doc Rock, docroXXX@XXXXXXom
    To:          Spectropop  List, spectroXXX@XXXXXXies.com
    
    More than one person has inquired about my book, so here's the 
    lowdown.
    					                    Liberty Records
                                   By
                     Michael "Doc Rock" Kelly, Ph.D.
                             Published 1983
    
    docroXXX@XXXXXXom
    
    Available from:
    A. McFarland Publishing, 01 -800-253-2187  $75 plus $3 p&h.
    B. Local bookstores, $75 (may have to special order)
    or C. The author (me), $50 plus $5 postage, autographed (by me),
    Michael "Doc Rock" Kelly
    3724 Woodmont Road
    Toledo, Ohio  43613-4831
    
                                Contents
    
                                Part One
                        Anatomy of a Record Label
    
    65 original interviews, 250 illustrations, 782 pages, complete
    discographies, hardback.
    Names in ALL CAPS indicate selected interviews.
    
    Introduction                                             2 pages
    Preface by SI WARONKER, founder of Liberty Records       4 pages
    Chapter 1  Rock and Roll Record Labels                   9 pages
    Chapter 2  Liberty in the Beginning                     13 pages
    Chapter 3  1955  The Liberty Girl, JULIE LONDON         11 pages
    Chapter 4  1956  The Little Liberty Girls, 05 pages 
               Patience and Prudence
    Chapter 5  1957  Eddie Cochran (interview with sister and  
               nephew), SNUFF GARRETT                       38 pages
               SHARON SHEELEY, Margie Rayburn
    Chapter 6  1958  "Witch Doctor" and the Chipmunks       16 pages
    Chapter 7  1959  BOBBY VEE, Martin Denny,               47 pages
               Dolton Records, the FLEETWOODS, Frantics, 
               Little Bill and the Blue Notes
    Chapter 8  1960  Johnny Burnette, BUDDY KNOX            41 pages
               Ernie Freeman, THE VENTURES
    Chapter 9  1961  Avnet, Gene McDaniels, Timi Yuro,      49 pages
               Vic Dana, Troy Shondel, DICK AND DEEDEE
    Chapter 10 1962  CRICKETS, JAN & DEAN, Marketts,        58 pages
               RIVINGTONS, DANNY AND GWEN, Walter Brennan,
               JACKIE DESHANNON, Willie Nelson, Vikki Carr,
               LENNY WARONKER (prez of WB Records)
    Chapter 11 1963  Ricky Nelson, Fats Domino, and         61 pages
               More from Bobby Vee, Jan & Dean, Jackie 
               DeShannon, the Fleetwoods and the Crickets
    Chapter 12 1964  Matt Monroe, BILLY J KRAMER            34 pages
               with the Dakatos, the Searchers, the Beatles,
               Irma Thomas, Johnny Rivers, the Swinging Blue 
               Jeans, the Hollies
    Chapter 13 1965  GARY LEWIS AND THE PLAYBOYS,           57 pages
               P. J. Proby, T-Bones, HAL BLAINE, O'Jays,
               Jimmy McCracklin, Cher
    Chapter 14 Liberty Stereo Little LPs, EPs, 78's, and     7 pages
               Picture Sleeves                                          
    Chapter 15 1966  Bob Lind, Del Shannon                  21 pages
    Chapter 16 Liberty Acquisitions, Special Series,        45 pages
               and Subsidiaries
    Chapter 17 1967  Nitty Gritty Dirt Band, Vikki Carr,    15 pages
               Hardtimes, Love Generation, Sunshine Company
               Classics IV     and the 5th Dimension
    Chapter 18 1968  Canned Heat, 06 pages
               Dave Dee, Dozy, Beaky, Mick and Tich
    Chapter 19 1969  The 5th Dimension and Also Rans         4 pages
    Chapter 20 1970  Ike and Tina Turner, Sugarloaf          3 pages
    Chapter 21 1971  Liberty in the End                      4 pages
    
                                Part Two
                     Making Liberty Hit Record Hits          4 pages
    Chapter 22 Music Publishing -- Metric Music             14 pages
               (LOU ADLER)
    Chapter 23 Record Producing                             12 pages
               (SNUFF GARRETT)
    Chapter 24 Recording Music                              14 pages
               (STAN ROSS, Owner Goldstar Studio)
               (FANITA OF THE BLOSSOMS, TOMMY ALSUP>   
    Chapter 25 Engineering a Hit                            26 pages
              (BONES HOWE)
    Chapter 26 Picturing Music                               6 pages
    Chapter 27 Promting Records                             36 pages
    Chapter 28 Publicity                                     6 pages
    Chapter 29 Selling Records                               6 pages
    Chapter 30 Distributing Records                          6 pages
    Chapter 31 Merchandising Records                         4 pages
    Chapter 32 Radio Air Play                               11 pages
               (JIMMY O'NEAL of Shindig)
    
                               Part Three
                         Four Liberty Superstars
    Chapter 33 BOBBY VEE                                    39 pages
    Chapter 34 THE VENTURES                                 22 pages
    Chapter 35 JACKIE DESHANNON                             20 pages
    Chapter 36 JAN & DEAN                                   61 pages
    
                                Part Four
                           The End of Liberty
    Chapter 37 Selling Liberty . . . and Selling It         13 pages
               and Selling It
    Chapter 38 Life After Liberty                            7 pages
    Chapter 39 Overview                                      5 pages
    Epilogue 40 Where Did They Go? (What artists did 
            after their hit stopped)                        30 pages
    
    
                               Appendices
    Appendix 1  The #1 Hits
    Appendix 2  Artists in the Top 200
    Appendix 3  Liberty, Dolton, Imperial and Soul City
                Top Rankings
    Appendix 4  The Top Liberty, Dolton, and
                Imperial Hit Makers
    Appendix 5  The Top 30 Liberty Family Artists
    Appendix 6  Percent Success
    Appendix 7  Chronological Hit Lists
    Appendix 8  Graphs of Hits per Year
    Appendix 9  Top 100 Liberty, Dolton,
                and Imperial Artists                                     
         
    Appendix 10 Top 100 Hits Listed Chronologically
    Appendix 11 Singles Discography
    Appendix 12 Liberty LP Discography
    Appendix 13 Liberty Family 45 Sleeves and Labels
    + 5 groups of illustrations
    
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