http://www.spectropop.com ________________________________________________________________________ ______________ ______________ ______________ ______________ ______________ S P E C T R O P O P ______________ ______________ ______________ ________________________________________________________________________ Always handle records like this - without touching the playing surfaces. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ There are 6 messages in this issue of Spectropop. Topics in this Digest Number 81: 1. Bobbie Gentry question From: Stewart Mason 2. Re: Mortimer From: "Sean Anglum" 3. Four Seasons From: John Clemente 4. Just a couple of facts From: The Right Reverend Bob 5. Re: beach boy controversy From: alan zweig 6. Phil Spector? From: Carol Kaye ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 1 Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2000 14:47:50 -0700 From: Stewart Mason Subject: Bobbie Gentry question I just did my twice-yearly used vinyl splurge at Bow Wow Records (142 albums for $30), and among this batch were a couple of Bobbie Gentry albums. I'm listening to ODE TO BILLIE JOE right now, and the title track is on. I could swear this is not the hit single version. My sense memory of this single is that she sings it deadpan, almost with the sweet-voiced detachment of Astrud Gilberto's English vocals, and that's what makes the song so creepy. Her voice is much rougher and bluesy on this version, and it sounds like it's just a hair faster. Am I just misremembering this song entirely or did she do more than one version? Just for clarity, the album is ODE TO BILLIE JOE (Capitol ST2830), the cover photo is Bobbie in jeans and a white t-shirt sitting on a fence, and she just happens to be holding her acoustic guitar in such a way as to emphasize her breasts. The back photo is even less subtle, with her standing, back to the camera, guitar over shoulder, left thumb hooked in the back pocket of her jeans, looking over her shoulder with a facial expression that says, "Yes, you looked at my butt before you looked at my face. Why do you think I'm standing like this?" Given that my childhood memories of her on the Glen Campbell Show all involve modest polyester pantsuits, I had no idea that she started out with a Caroll Baker-with-guitar shtick. Speaking of Glen Campbell (and modest polyester pantsuits, come to think of it), I also bought BOBBIE GENTRY AND GLEN CAMPBELL and discovered an unexpected cover of Margo Guryan's "Sunday Morning," making this the fourth version I own of this song. Stewart --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Message: 2 Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2000 16:41:24 -0700 From: "Sean Anglum" Subject: Re: Mortimer Greetings Spectroids, Thanks for sparking the "Mortimer" remembrances........ the best one I have comes from the May 1968 appearance of John and Paul on the Tonight Show. They were in New York to hype the new Apple label (and shop, and film group, and publishing arm, et al) and appeared on the Tonight Show (then taped in New York). Johnny Carson was off that night and baseballer Joe Garagiola (sp?) was the sub host. Anyway, I had the Mortimer LP and knew what they looked like and had heard the rumors of them either signing with Apple or Apple Publishing (having some sort of Baetle connection). Well, when the show went to commercial during the J&P segment, what did my wondering eyes see, but Mortimer all sitting front row and center in the studio audience. If you're lucky enough to have a video of this interview, check it out. They are there. Gives more creedence to the Beatle rumors, I'd say. All the best in 2001. Raised On Records, Sean Anglum --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Message: 3 Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2000 23:28:49 -0500 From: John Clemente Subject: Four Seasons Hello All, I am sad to report that Nick Massi (Macioci), one of the original Four Seasons, passed away from cancer on December 24th in West Orange, NJ. He was 73. Nick started his career in music by playing in jazz combos with fellow future Four Season Tom DeVito during the late 1940s. When he joined Frankie Valli and DeVito in The Four Lovers in the late 1950s, it wasn't long before the group changed its name to The Four Seasons, with Bob Gaudio from The Bronx joining the three Newark natives. The group hit big in 1962 with "Sherry", under Massi's vocal direction, Charlie Callelo's musical direction and the production and writing talents of Gaudio and Bob Crewe. After numerous hits to his credit (Big Girls Don't Cry, Marlena, Dawn, Rag Doll, etc.) Massi left The Four Seasons in 1965. Massi then worked with The Victorians (Reprise) and Carmel in the late 60s and 70s. The Four Seasons were eventually inducted into the R&R Hall of Fame. John Clemente --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Message: 4 Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2000 10:01:53 -0800 (PST) From: The Right Reverend Bob Subject: Just a couple of facts Brian Wilson did NOT regain ownership of his songs, from Almo Music, A&M's publishing branch. The settlement was for $$$! Brian had sued hoping to regain ownership, but one, Gene Landy, had very different, goals in mind. So the lawsuit focused on the dough, rather than on a settlement that allowed Brian to regain his songs, without a cash windfall. The Capitol Years box set of years ago, was NOT a P Reum production, or even a Peter Reum compilation. Peter, was asked to, and paid to, write the liner notes for the project, which was initially, done in England, Peter did a wonderful job, on those liners, by the way, and I can't emphasize enough, that this was a "legal" deal, and Peter, ONLY WROTE THE LINER NOTES! The BBs English "deal" of the day, was very different than it is today. World Records, as they called themselves were "leased" the rights to BBs recordings for a one time, limited and numbered, issue. As long as, royalties were paid, as contracted, the deal, that made the English version, of the Capitol Years box set happen, was completely legal! Now here's the tricky part! When the box set was, illegally, as I understand it, issued in Australia, and then, finally in Japan, (though, publishing law in both of these countries, is considerably different than the US or even England, ask Paul McCartney!), the fertilizer hit the cooling unit. At that time, it was also discovered that royalties were being paid to the BBs for, the Survivors- Pamela Jean/After the Game. It was erroneously believed, at that time, (Peter's liner notes substantiate this error), that the Survivors were simply the BBs in cognito. They were NOT. and the guys, that WERE, the group, which did include Brian, BTW, were interested in getting proper credit, and royalties. Refer to Jamie's post in the previous issue of Spectropop digest, for a more detailed, legalese, explanation of the wonderful world of music and publishing The Right Reverend Bob, dumb angel chapel, The Church of the Harmonic Overdub --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Message: 5 Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2000 16:38:38 -0500 From: alan zweig Subject: Re: beach boy controversy I don't know anything about the current Beach Boys controversy but I do find the uproar here on this list a bit strange. Some guy actually had the insolence to say that he disagreed with Carol and the jaws could be heard dropping all over the world. As far as I recall, his disagreement was very respectful. But suddenly outraged fingers are banging on keys. Carol reminds us once more of her qualifications. As in.. >With over 10,000 record dates to my name, a Lifetime >Achievement Award, and a Women in Music Award etc., I'd >say I have the background to support this lawsuit >publicly to help my friends) Since when did you need to be qualified to hold an opinion or to support your friends? But it's not just Carol herself who jumps to her own defense, even though no defense was necessary. BUT we also get supporters for her right to an opinion, as in... > From: Dmirich > Subject: BB recordings > Carol has a right to side with the Beach Boys. Not only that but again, in my opinion, he mischaracterizes the disagreement. As in... >But you shouldn't admonish Carol so strongly I don't believe he admonished her at all. (And if he did, she can stick up for herself.) I hope my opinion here isn't seen as disrespectful. I don't mean it that way. I'm just trying to keep the conversation going. AZ P.S. : >The BB lawyers must feel that there is good legal >reasoning to file the suit. Yeah, the good reason is they might make some money. --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Message: 6 Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2000 10:47:21 -0800 From: Carol Kaye Subject: Phil Spector? I don't think you can compare this with Phil Spector's operation at all. Even I have a huge record company compared to surf-s up, Carol Kaye --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- End
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