________________________________________________________________________ ______________ ______________ ______________ ______________ ______________ S P E C T R O P O P ______________ ______________ ______________ ________________________________________________________________________ Deze stereo LP kan ook op een moderne mono platenspeler gedraaid worden ------------------------------------------------------------------------ There are 6 messages in this issue #52. Topics in this digest: 1. re: Mikey Nesmith/Ricky Nelson? From: Christopher Davidson 2. Papa Nez' Blues From: Glenn Sadin 3. Ian Chapman on TreasureIslandOldies.com From: Michael Godin 4. Re: Pass it along From: "Joseph Scott" 5. Re: Pass It Along From: Toby 6. Re: Berklee College, Boston From: Carol Kaye ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 1 Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2000 06:19:05 -0700 (PDT) From: Christopher Davidson Subject: re: Mikey Nesmith/Ricky Nelson? Regarding the insightful Monkees comment, I completely agree. Always thought Papa Gene's Blues sounded like a Ricky Nelson outtake. And I also agree about Jeff Barry producing the hottest Monkees material. The second album is amazing, as is the sporadic stuff he did later on -- She Hangs Out, I Don't Think You Know Me, Little Bit Me. I think the final album (Changes?) when it was just a duo is kind of weak, which is surprising as it was cut during Barry's great work with the Archies and Andy Kim. On an unrelated note, I just discovered the most incredible piece of '60s soft pop -- it's Andy Williams backed by the Association doing the song "Changes," which I think was on the Association's first album. It's from a TV appearance on the AW show >from maybe 1965-66 or so that I recently got from a video dealer in Boston. The band lip-synchs to Cherish and then Andy comes out and sings lead on Changes, which actually just might be the actual record with the original lead vocal wiped off and replaced by Andy's live voice. Hard to tell as the video's a bit fuzzy. But what a great album these guys could've done! CAD -- first time poster. ===== Chris Davidson CAD Records --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Message: 2 Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2000 09:37:35 -0700 From: Glenn Sadin Subject: Papa Nez' Blues Jack sez... > > >But then I suddenly noticed that Mike's "Papa Gene's >Blues" really sounds a lot--a LOT--like a Ricky Nelson >sort of track. Naturally, James Burton's guitar is the >direct connection, but it seems to me that it goes >further than just that. The whole song has a kind of >>Ricky Nelson sound, calling to mind none other than >"Hello Mary Lou" itself. Nez himself has stated that "Hello Mary Lou" was the direct inspiration for "Papa Gene's Blues." He has also named Ricky Nelson as the real "Father of Country Rock" (a title occasionally bestowed upon Nesmith). I've often found it interesting that Nesmith was able to get two or three of his compositions/productions placed on each of those first two Monkees LPs, considering how corporate-controlled those recordings were, and considering Nesmith's track record at that time (several flop singles on Colpix and on a few obscure indie labels). Some interesting trivia: On the very 1st pressings of the first Monkees LP (October 1966), the song is listed as "Papa Jean's Blues," not "Papa Gene's Blues." That was quickly corrected and the LP was reissued with a "RE" after the catalog number. Glenn Glenn Sadin Read about JAPANESE POP MUSIC from the 1950s thru the 1990s: http://home.earthlink.net/~glenn_mariko/nihon.htm --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Message: 3 Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2000 07:00:28 -0700 From: Michael Godin Subject: Ian Chapman on TreasureIslandOldies.com Hi, I wanted to pass on my thanks to Spectropop member Ian Chapman for joining me in the studio as my guest this week on Treasure Island Oldies. He had an intriguing Top 5 last which we played in the last hour of the show. I invite you to have a listen. Just go to the site and click on listen to latest show link. Cheers! Michael Godin Treasure Island Oldies www.TreasureIslandoldies.com --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Message: 4 Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2000 11:34:56 -0700 (PDT) From: "Joseph Scott" Subject: Re: Pass it along Hi all, Personally, I think this track by this British alt-pop group is likely to be a publicity stunt, intended to get the group's name attention in the press so that the group can profit financially in the long run. I think if this vocalist were as concerned about artistic integrity as he claims to be, they'd be sampling artists who particularly struck their artistic fancy, rather than what looks suspiciously like a list of artists who are particularly likely to get the group coverage in the press because they are well-known to the public, such as Eminem, the Beatles, and Madonna. Just my opinion. Best to everyone, Joseph Scott --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Message: 5 Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 07:51:57 -0000 From: Toby Subject: Re: Pass It Along >Chumbawamba vocalist Dunstan Bruce says, "It's hilarious >listening to the big record companies bleating on about >how file sharing is damaging art. They wouldn't recognize >art or artistic integrity if they bounded over and bit >them on the arse." What a funny coincidence, I presented a short essay about this very subject for my Sociology class today! This may be off-topic, but the music industry's argument that they're losing money because of sites like Napster is pretty ironic, when record sales have *increased* in the last couple of years. I think it (the industry) is threatened because the internet is a new form of media which it doesn't have control over. I mean, the entire music industry today is controlled by how many companies, five??? Thank God the EU stopped the Warner-EMI merger... Related subject: how many Sixties artists distribute their own music on their websites these days? I believe Roger McGuinn is one....and Brian Wilson makes two...David Bowie (though he's not really a Spectropoppy artist)... Toby --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Message: 6 Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2000 07:38:43 -0700 From: Carol Kaye Subject: Re: Berklee College, Boston >>>>Hi gang...Did you know???? This Friday, October 27 the Berklee College of Music Bass Ensemble here in good ol' Boston is presenting a tribute to the bass-stylings of our own Carol Kaye by presenting arrangements of many of the songs on which she played... Congratulations to Carol and the integrity of Soft Pop... JB<<< Just checking in, JB, that's wild, thank-you. I just got back from giving 2 seminars and playing a little bit at the concert on Bass Dayz at Berklee in Boston (this Monday) ....over 200 bass students, was just the cat's meow -- they're doing such great things at Berklee for the students, just wonderful teachers there, themselves excellent musicians too. I didn't know about this thing you posted, that's really wild...thanks for posting that.. ..am so honored...don't know what to say. But I can tell you, I'm a fan of Berklee for sure....they're the best you can get for teachers, the whole program, etc. Have to tell you tho' that my friend in NYC, Deb Hastings, herself a successful film business lady, and 14-year leader and bassist of the band in back of Bo Diddley (I heard her play at the EMP opening in Seattle, she can groove and we've even sat down to play some good jazz together, she's a fine bassist! a real groover), drove up to Boston to film the whole thing (not commercially, just as a side thing), and it was a great experience. Excellent questions at the seminars (one was a focus on "women" in music, the other detailed bass education). I have to thank Rich Appleman of the Bass Dept. for putting that all together, he let me use his bass too (and thanks also to Chas. Chapman for loan of his guitar).... Rich was in charge of all the ceremonies, that evening's concert, etc. and it was beautiful, 01 ,000s of people there. It's the greatest private music school in the USA, and I think everyone should be proud of the integrity, knowledge, and musicianship involved in the teacher line-up of that great school. Wish they'd have a 2nd school out here in LA, they sure need something of the calibur of Berklee (round the year, I teach at the prestigious Henry Mancini Institute-UCLA, but that's only 1 month a year and not the complete educational facilities of Berklee....which entails "all" of the curriculum, not just the "finishing" part like Mancini does). Would sure help with the music situation out here in LA if Berklee was here too (if it's ever possible)....I have to tell musicians: Don't come to LA, as there's no work at all, studios or live (where you can make a "living", it's still good for connections for road tours with various groups). And studio work is practically nil....so much politics too, never seen that before in my life here in LA, especially speaking of rhythm sections - maybe someday it could pick up and be good again...would like to see that happen for tomorrow's generation of musicians - that would be wonderful for the public too to get some good music out there. Thank-you Berklee, everyone there, for the graciousness, the great short time I was there was simply the cat's meow .....was wonderful to see so much in action at Berklee education-wise, I'm so impressed with the whole school, you've got a lot in Boston there to be proud of! Best, Carol PS. Yep, had a beer at "Cheers" on Beacon, and ate the famous seafood there, Ray Pizzi was right....downright great. --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- End
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