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There are 7 messages in this issue #24.

Topics in this digest:

      1. Steve & Eydie
           From: John Frank 
      2. Blame It On the Bossa Nova
           From: Jimmy 
      3. Re: Steve and Eydie
           From: Jamie LePage 
      4. Cynthia Weil / Carol Kaye
           From: Glenn Sadin 
      5. Carol Kaye/Bass
           From: "jake tassell" 
      6. that oldies show on Public TV
           From: Jimmy 
      7. Dion - Born To Be With You
           From: Spectropop Admin 


Message: 1
   Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2000 21:03:38 -0700
   From: John Frank 
Subject: Steve & Eydie

I was lucky enough to find a Canadian compilation on the
"Point" label (nevah hoid of it before or since) called
"The Best Of Steve & Eydie". It has its share of schlocky
songs, but includes all those wonderful Eydie-pieces that
I'd been looking for for years. I think the things she
did by Mann-Weil and Goffin-King were just great. I
wondered if it were the case that they were, indeed,
ashamed of that stuff, and some have confirmed here that
they are. Such a shame that they were given wonderful
songs by some of the most powerful, respected songwriters
of the day, did great justice to them, and now they're
ashamed of them? Go figure...

I'll tape the CD for anyone who wants it. Just e-mail me.

The track listing:
Pretty Blue Eyes
Come Back, Silly Girl
Loveing Is a Way of Living
Why, Why, Why
Go Away Little Girl
Yet...I Know
Walking Proud
Don't Be Afraid Little Darling
The Banana Boat Song
The Chicken and the Hawk
Party Doll
Girls Girls 
Little Boy Blue
Everybody Knows
I Want To Stay Here
I Can't Stop Thinking About You
I Want You to Meet My Baby
Don't Try to Fight It, Baby
Blame It on the Bossa Nova
Yes My Darling Daughter
Everybody Go Home
Can't Get Over (The Bossa Nova)  
[with the great line "Manhattan's / Gone Latin" !]
You're Nobody Till Somebody Loves You


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Message: 2
   Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2000 20:53:48 EDT
   From: Jimmy 
Subject: Blame It On the Bossa Nova

"Blame It On the Bossa Nova" was one of those records I
played a million times when I re-discovered it back in
1970... I remember playing it over and over and over on a
little record player while I cleaned out my boss's yard...


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Message: 3
   Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2000 00:30:04 -0700 (PDT)
   From: Jamie LePage 
Subject: Re: Steve and Eydie

Doc Rock wrote:

> By and large, Steve and Edyie's hit 45s are excluded
> from LP or CD compilations. They are ashamed of them.

Al Quaglieri wrote:

> Unfortunately, Steve and Eydie have tried (quite 
> successfully, it seems) to erase most traces of their 
> teen-pop days and tried to reinvent themselves as
> crooners of sophisticated music.

Well, that's how Lennon and even McCartney felt about
performing Beatles material after the group disbanded.
That changed over time. One often hears of artists who
are reluctant to perform songs they made famous but which
are inconsistent with their contemporary sound. You can't
blame an artist for wanting to project the image they
want the public to perceive, but after all this time, I
would think Steve and Eydie would be open to considering
re-release of this material.

At one time the teenage Brill Building sound may have been
considered trite by Rolling Stone standards. By now,
though, the works of Carole King/Gerry Goffin and Barry
Mann/Cynthia Weil have eclipsed much of the rock-era
music that came after, and these writers and their works
are most highly respected. The popular use of 60s pop
recordings and songs in TV, film and commercials should be
proof enough. It seems to me that Steve & Eydie should
have already reconsidered the idea that this music is

Besides, if the bootleggers arbitrarily sequence and
package these recordings, what is accomplished by holding
back official release? A good sounding, well prepared
package essentially makes a boot of the same material
worthless. Take for instance the Barry Mann album "Lay It
All Out". In its bootleg form, it was devoid of liners and
mastered from vinyl. The brand new edition, officially
licensed and mastered from the original tapes, has two
bonus tracks and is presented in a wonderful package
including advertisements for the album that were used at
the time of its first release. In addition, the legit
reissue is more reasonably priced than the bootleg. Which
would you buy?

Ashamed? Get over it! It's like a throwback to the 70s or
something where everything that came before was suddenly
unhip.To me there it isn't "hip" to deny the past.
Discover and appreciate the qualities of the past for what
they are and apply (or choose not to apply) those
qualities to the present. 

I've seen Darlene Love roll her eyes when singing "'cause
we're only in out teens" and Ronnie chuckle when singing
"Why do they say we're too young to go steady". It's OK to
laugh at or be embarrassed by the naivete of many songs of
the era, it's all in good fun, but it seems conceited and
selfish to hoard these recordings in an attempt to rewrite


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Message: 4
   Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2000 09:30:03 -0700
   From: Glenn Sadin 
Subject: Cynthia Weil / Carol Kaye

Jamie sez...

>By the way, for the longest time I pronounced Cyn's family
>name as "wheel". I was recently told the correct
>pronunciation is "while". Can anyone corroborate?

I've always believed it to be pronounced "while."

Carol Kaye - Thanks for sharing your knowledge of bass
equipment/strings and techniques! As a fellow musician,
it's always fascinating and informative to learn what gear
the masters use. BTW, did you play on Ritchie Valens'
sessions? Is that you playing the 6-string bass on "La
Bamba" and others? Great chunky tone!

Glenn Sadin

   Read about JAPANESE POP MUSIC from the 1950s thru the

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Message: 5
   Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2000 23:45:03 +0100
   From: "jake tassell" 
Subject: Carol Kaye/Bass

Thanks very much for the 'bass gen', Carol.



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Message: 6
   Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2000 20:55:57 EDT
   From: Jimmy 
Subject: that oldies show on Public TV

By the way, I finally caught that oldies show on Public
TV: Brian Wilson, Mary Wilson, Dee Dee Kennibrew... Ronnie
Spector!! Wow, I tell you... the woman can have fun, eh?
She still loves working it! Go Ronnie! Dee Dee looked so
classy; hard to believe she's gonna be sixty in a few
years. And mary looks happy. Go girls...


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Message: 7
   Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2000 05:32:23 -0000
   From: Spectropop Admin 
Subject: Dion - Born To Be With You

Ace Records in England has acquired the rights to release
eight albums by Dion, including the Phil Spector produced "Born
To Be With You".


Also acquired in the deal are the rights to "Reunion:
Live at Madison Square Garden" and "Dream On Fire". No
release info available at this time.

FYI---> all

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