________________________________________________________________________ ______________ ______________ ______________ ______________ ______________ S P E C T R O P O P ______________ ______________ ______________ ________________________________________________________________________ Crisp, clear, sparkling -- Perfect even at high volume ------------------------------------------------------------------------ There are 4 messages in this issue #21. Topics in this digest: 1. Rockaway Beach From: "Kingsley Abbott" 2. Att: Yellow Balloons Alex.. From: Carol Kaye 3. find the bass and bring that up From: Jamie LePage 4. Return Of The Nice Age Playlist! From: David Ponak ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 1 Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2000 22:37:29 +0100 From: "Kingsley Abbott" Subject: Rockaway Beach Please does anyone have a spare copy of Joey Ramone and General Johnson dueting on "Rockaway Beach"? Maybe not standard Spectropop territory, but I heard it once a long time ago, loved it, and haven't found it since. Or maybe someone knows of it being on a CD collection somewhere? Please mail me directly. Thanks. Kingsley Abbott [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Message: 2 Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 18:27:22 -0700 From: Carol Kaye Subject: Att: Yellow Balloons Alex.. Sorry, but this is the only way I can contact Alex of the Yellow Balloons who lives in Carlsbad.....Alex, please contact me, lost your email and address, thanks. Thanks for the bandwidth, Best, Carol Kaye http://www.carolkaye.com/ --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Message: 3 Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2000 15:25:55 +0900 From: Jamie LePage Subject: find the bass and bring that up In digest 16, Carol Kaye wrote: > Jamie in his post said "the drummer overplayed". Listen, > the way those sound-mixers work.....they dramatize the > bass drum by loading it with DB's! You can never hear > the bass player but the thud-thud-thud-thud of that awful > bass drum, thanks to the ignorance of sound-mixers who > evidently got their training in the 80s when the bassists > were busy slapping the bass (not playing real notes which > support the band and chordal foundations). > > Hope they all learn to find the bass and bring that up > instead of the bass drum soon. It truly does bewilder me when I hear contemporary r&b records with nearly no bass, usually a meandering histrionic lead vocal over nearly nothing more than a cheap sounding drum machine. What happened? I never thought of how a bass player might react to this trend - it was interesting to read Carol's comments. I may be wrong about this, but I think this is not a matter of "different strokes for different folks". OK, some like alternative rock. Some like jazz. That's a matter of personal taste. But when it comes to the aesthetic qualities of popular music, irrespective of genre, achieving a balance of instruments across the frequency range has traditionally been something record makers strive for. Many of these new r&b records sound like quick demos made on a Casiotone. r&b producers who were raised on all the great r&b from earlier decades must be livid. There is an often repeated retort to this observation, that is the bass is there, but it is all sub-bass and you need a good sub woofer to truly appreciate it. Oh yeah? Like those vans driving up and down the boulevard with the thud-thud-thud-thud? Sure, that's aesthetically pleasing balance (not). Anyway, if you gotta have a sub woofer to hear the bass, there's something wrong, because people don't listen to music with a sub woofer *all the time*. Music is piped into restaurants and shops, and when there is a lot of din, you can't hear anything except an incessant mechanical sounding hi hat going chiki-chiki-chiki. People listen to music on their cassette players, walkmans, even on their computers, and the fact is not every system has the "required" sub woofers. Maybe one of the sound engineers in this group can give a more educated opinion, but I don't believe it is necessary to bury the bass in the low to low-mid frequencies in order to make it boom through the sub-woofers. It's a pet peeve and I realize I am ranting here so I won't go on - I just can't accept this to mean the previous generation do not understand today's sound. I don't believe it's a matter of age. A good song will always be a good song, and a well balanced recording will always sound well balanced. To my ears, these multi-platinum new r&b records have neither, and of course the next question is, where does it go from here? Hopefully, it will cycle back and a new hybrid will evolve that embraces musical accompaniment and melody as well as sub-frequencies and mechanical rhythm. Until that day, I will remind myself to be grateful that I know and appreciate the music of wonderful r&b artists Otis Redding, Curtis Mayfield, Billy Stewart, Marvin Gaye, Sam Cooke and all the others. Jamie P.S. To Carol - When I wrote "the drummer overplayed", I was talking about adding fills and more syncopation to rhythm patterns of the original hits. Many "road" cats think playing more is equal to playing better, and the arrangements often suffer for it. Even king of embellishment Phil Spector recognized this. Like on one of the Spector session tapes Spector asks everyone through the talkback "Who's playing that harmony on the fade? I don't know. You better leave it out." Sometimes what is not played is as important as what is. --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Message: 4 Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 16:39:30 -0700 From: David Ponak Subject: Return Of The Nice Age Playlist! The Nice Age airs every Sunday evening from 5-7PM (PDT) on SPIKERADIO. www.spikeradio.com Check it out! 8/13/00 1.Motocompo - Discoteque Murder - Single Poplot 2.ECD - Direct Drive (Readymade Remix) - All Systems Are Go Go - ESL 3.Tahiti 80 - Heartbeat (Todd Terry TNT Remix) - Single Minty Fresh 4.Hideki Kaji - Friendship Sunflower - You Will Love Me - Trattoria 5.The Yellow Balloon - How Can I Be Down - The Yellow Balloon - Sundazed 6.Yukari Fresh - Lost & Found - Single Escalator 7.Citrus - Blue Mercedes Wispy, No Mercy - Trattoria 8.The Jam - And Your Bird Can Sing - Extras Polydor 9.High Llamas - Triads - Snowbug V2 10.Towa Tei - Mars - Single East/West 11.Maki Nomiya - Star Struck - Miss Maki Nomiya Sings 12.Orwell - Les Anness.... - Orwell Poplane 13.Underworld - 08 -Ball - The Beach s/t - London 14.Le Hammond Inferno - Easy Listening Superstar - Escalator 15.Bently Rhythm Ace - T-Spot - For Your Ears Only - Parlophone 16.Hi-Posi - Computer No. 3 - Ready For Love - Contemp 17.Fugu - The Best Of Us - Fugu 1 Pop Biz 18.Cubismo Grafico - Moon Is Yours - Mini Escalator 19.Harco - ? (damn kanji!!!!) - Quiz De Room - V2 20.Belle & Sebastian - Don't Leave The Light On Baby - Fold Your Hands - Matador 21.Shy - Theme From A Summer Place - Atomium 3003 Bungalow 22.Billy Nichols - Life Is Short Would You Belive - Teichiku 23.Bobbie's Rockin Chair - What A Happy Day - Young Friends - LD&K 24.Charlotte Gainsbourg - Lemon Incest - Gainsbourg Version Femmes - Phillips 25.Puffy - Ai No Shirushi - The Very Best Of Puffy - Epic 26.The Aluminum Group - Caroline No - Caroline Now Marina 27.Oh Penelope - Happy Song - single Sony David Ponak A&R-TOKYOPOP Music 5670 Wilshire Blvd. Los Angeles, CA 90036 (323) 692-6827 www.tokyopop.com --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- End
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