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There are 6 messages in this issue #18.

Topics in this digest:

      1. BOUNCE: Non-member submission
           From: "Spectropop Admin" 
      2. Myddle Class
           From: Marc Miller 
      3. Re: local hits
           From: Frank 
      4. Alex Valdez recollections on Yellow Balloon
           From: Paul Urbahns paulurbahn
      5. Boy, the fantasy world out there
           From: Carol Kaye 


Message: 1
   Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2000 03:45:24 -0000
   From: "Spectropop Admin" 
Subject: BOUNCE: Non-member submission

Subject:    CDs Wanted...Name your Price!
>From:        Spectropop: Archive | Bulletin Board

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Posted by Robert Hull robrthull
on Wed, 09 Aug 2000 19:19:50 

I am the Executive Producer for Time-Life Music. I am
trying to find copies of these CDs posted on this

Phil Spector--Twist and Shout 
Phil Spector--Masterpiece #1 
Phil Spector--Masterpiece #2 
Phil Spector--Masterpiece #3 
Phil Spector--Rare Masters 
Phil Spector--Spectorcular 
Phil Spector--Off the Wall 

All help will be greatly appreciated...and rewarded. Thanks!

[direct link to the original message posted on
Spectropop Group Bulletin Board]


Posted by Robert Hull 

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Message: 2
   Date: Tue, 08 Aug 2000 14:19:07 -0400 
   From: Marc Miller 
Subject: Myddle Class

Does anyone know if "Free As The Wind" by  the Myddle
Class has ever been on an anthology?  Does anyone have a
copy that they might tape for me?  Any info is


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Message: 3
   Date: Wed, 09 Aug 00 10:39:22 +0100
   From: Frank 
Subject: Re: local hits

This is interesting, indeed. What first surprises me is not so much the 
lesser known (almost unknown) artists who made it locally but the well 
known ones who, for some reason, failed to succeed nationally although
they had a name (I'm thinking of The Platters, The Tymes, The Clovers...) 
or was it before they hit it nationwide ?

>Ohmygawd!  Living here in the southeastern U.S....right
>in the middle of "beach music" country...there are
>probably zillions! 
>Off the top of my head:
>Thank You John (Willie T)
>Summertime's Calling Me (The Catalinas)
>Ms. Grace (The Tymes)
>Carolina Girls (Chairman of the Board)
>With This Ring, I Love You 1,000 Times, Washed Ashore (All by The Platters)
>Drive It Home (Clovers)
>Rooster Blues (Delbert McClinton)
>Call The Plumber (Big Joe Turner)
>Slow Boat To China (Ronie Dove)
>Hold Back The Night (The Trammps)
>Rainy Day Bells (Harlem Globetrotters)
>I Got The Fever (Billy Scott & The Georgia Prophets)
>My Little Red Book (Drifters)
>Ain't No Big Thing (Radiants)
>Fat Boy (Billy Stewart)

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Message: 4
   Date: Wed, 09 Aug 2000 00:05:33 EDT
   From: Paul Urbahns paulurbahn
Subject: Alex Valdez recollections on Yellow Balloon

In a message dated 8/8/00 4:54:58 AM Eastern Daylight Time, 
spectropop writes:

Thanks to the excellent post by Michael "Doc Rock" Kelly
which brings us closer to figuring out the Yellow
Balloon mystery.

His comment:

> Actually, I also went back and put another vocal track
> on "Yellow Balloon."  I could be the one singing it on
> the album. 

That explains why there was a Yellow Balloon session on
June 1, 1967 which was months after the song was on the
charts. The majority of the album was cut at sessions on
April 27, 1967 and May 16, 1967. according to the liner
notes with the Sundazed Yellow Balloon CD reissue.

The other comments 

> Dean recorded "Yellow Balloon" twice.  Once was in Joe
> Osborn's garage studio.  This was a "demo" version.This
> got him a deal with Columbia, were he re-cut "YB."
>   When Dean went to re-cut "Yellow Balloon" for Columbia,
>   Gary Zekley objected to the changes Dean made in it. 
>   Gary liked the demo arrangement better.

This falls in line with the audio on the Save It For A
Rainy Day cd reissue (also on Sundazed) The Cd has the
full J&D label album, in mono on tracks 5-14. The other
tracks 1-4, 15-23 are various remixes from the original
tapes. Track one is a stereo yellow Balloon marked as
version 2 and sounds like the released version on the
J&D album. Track 15 is a considerably different
arrangement which could be what it being referred to as
the demo that Zekley liked. It has more harmony and is
closer to the final Zekley version than the original Jan
and Dean one. Track 15 is listed as Version 1. Track 21
is the instrumental background track to Yellow Balloon
in stereo so you would be singers can do your own
version :>

So yes we do know Dean cut at least two different
versions of Yellow Balloon and maybe three if the
Columbia single is a different recording than the ones
issued on the J&D label, before Zekley cut his version
for Canterbury. It's too bad memories dim after almost
40 years.

Paul Urbahns

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Message: 5
   Date: Tue, 08 Aug 2000 05:02:24 -0700
   From: Carol Kaye 
Subject: Boy, the fantasy world out there

Now who made this one up?

> His girl friend,  Carol Kaye, was the hot ticket in
> Hollywood at the time. She played on most of the Motown
> hits.  Monkees, Beach  Boys, she was bass on all the big
> sessions.  But in  order to hire Carol, you had to hire
> Joe on acoustic.

No, not "most" of the Motown hits, just some out in LA.  There were
about 10 bassists on Motown 60s things alone on LA's recordings.  And
no, I never was the "girl-friend" at all of Joe Osborn, I hardly knew
the man, I was busy working.  I didn't date after my 2nd divorce for
about 3-4 years, I was happy raising my children, working around the
clock.  When I finally dated, it was Ralph Pena, Frank Sinatra's
bassist, fine person, fine musician and he died in 1969 from a car
accident in Mexico City where I had lived with him for about 2-1/2

And no, Joe Osborn never played acoustic bass....Joe did do some nice
hits with the Mamas & Papas and a few other good groups like that....the
person who wrote the quoted above, this fellow who made up this stuff is
really dreaming.  

Carol Kaye

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