***Gary Zekley at Spectropop**** ________________________________________________________________________ ______________ ______________ ______________ ______________ ______________ S P E C T R O P O P ______________ ______________ ______________ ________________________________________________________________________ Apply the same care as with conventional records ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ There are 8 messages in this issue #14. Topics in this digest: 1. Rock and roll and high fidelity From: "WASE RADIO" 2. rock and roll and high fidelity again From: "WASE RADIO" 3. Carpenters From the Top From: FMYou 4. Ronnie sings Spector (or not) From: "Spector Collector" 5. Re: Tommy James unfairly overlooked From: Jason tecmofiend 6. Memory Lane is where it's at From: Frank 7. Gary Zekley From: Glenn Sadin 8. Re: Yellow Balloon From: Michael Gessner --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Message: 1 Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2000 00:07:28 -0400 From: "WASE RADIO" Subject: Rock and roll and high fidelity Pekka : Rock and roll was never meant to be a high fidelity medium. A lot of rock and roll were meant to be recorded as hot (meaning distorted) as possible to add to the spontaneity of the music. In other words record your song quick fast and in a hurry. Who cares if the guitarist hits a few bum notes-and who cares if you're recording in the red. I personally don't care for the Motown box because all the tracks are in mono. However "Fingertips Part 2" sounds like a lot cleaner on this anthology-in spite of the loud screams and all other chaos. The other redeeming values is that it contains the original 45 version of Marvin Gaye's "What's Going On?" The difference between the 45 version and album versions are: there is no talking at the start on the 45. It starts off with the music. The mono mix is more dense and echoey than on the stereo album mix-plus the 45 has a false fade. Otherwise the Motown box set is hit or miss. The boxset is only for those who want to hear the original 45 mixes. And yes the sound quality could be improved. For example there is an awful electronic buzz on the introduction of "Just My Imagination". Also several of the tracks are hissy, especially on the intro. Michael G. Marvin WASE radio --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Message: 2 Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2000 00:17:48 -0400 From: "WASE RADIO" Subject: rock and roll and high fidelity again Hi Pekka again: Phil Spector was never a great believer in high fidelity-let alone stereo. As you may have noticed by the red button with the letters "Back to Mono". Phil's recording philosophy was that the "cloudier and fuzzier" a song sounds,the more "guts" it has. Often times when Phil would record, he would have the meters "pegging" well into the red, obviously pushing the distortion quite well. I got the Reparata and the Delrons song on the new Girl Group cd on Varese Sarabende. This disc compiled by Dick Bartley has the song in true stereo, but sounds distorted. At least it does not have the badly chopped ending. I know it is frustrating to listen to imperfectly mastered on state of the art equipment But again rock and roll was never a high fidelity art form. One rock artist (his or name escapes me right now) was quoted that rock and roll was meant to be played on a five dollar record player-preferably with a dirty needle. Michael G. Marvin WASE radio --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Message: 3 Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2000 01:50:35 EDT From: FMYou Subject: Carpenters From the Top The most fascinating track for me on this box is the elaborately produced 1966 demo "Parting of Our Ways," which reminds me of the Left Banke. If not for the muddy sound, it would truly shine on any mid-60s California girl group comp. The first part of disc 1 earnestly documents Richard and Karen's early years (one instrumental jazz performance features Rich and Karen jamming out in the company of a virtuoso tuba player) and if nothing else, proves that Karen was an accomplished drummer almost from the start. Richard's songs and ideas during this period didn't always pan out, though. All in all, it's an interesting but not quite great set. Like, why put in so much Christmas music, and leave out the Spike Jones version they did for TV of "Close to You"? Also, Richard says in the notes that "Close to You" was attempted several times before they got the final version. It would have been interesting to hear how the arrangement and production of their first big hit evolved--at least as interesting as most of the stuff leading up to it on the set. --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Message: 4 Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2000 16:33:08 GMT From: "Spector Collector" Subject: Ronnie sings Spector (or not) I'm confused about a topic that's been covered here a few times lately: the alleged injunction Phil Spector has against Ronnie's singing his songs in public. It seems like I remember that the ban did not apply to her live concerts, only to appearances in broadcast media. She's coming here to Seattle on September 3, so I'll find out soon enough for myself, but can anyone who's seen her lately confirm that she's still doing these tunes live? And how does she get away with doing "I Can Hear Music" on the upcoming "Chapel of Love" PBS special? Because she's duetting with Brian Wilson? And for that matter, how was it possible for Kill Rock Stars to release her (wonderful) live version of "I Wish I Never Saw the Sunshine" on her recent "She Talks to Rainbows" EP? Hoping that someone can shed some light in these dark legal corners, David A. Young --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Message: 5 Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2000 14:01:39 EDT From: Jason tecmofiend Subject: Re: Tommy James unfairly overlooked Dave Mirich writes: > I have the CD, and the Clique CD as well. But I thirst > for more! I would love to have the intimate details on > his relationship with Tommy James, for example, or > details about his untimely death. What do experts think > about his legacy? His influence on pop music? And what > is Tommy James doing nowadays? Do music experts think > of him as a crafter of catchy tunes only? Or is he known > as an important, influential innovator and gifted > songwriter? Thanks We just caught Tommy playing at State Street Fest here in Chicago about a month ago. He put on a great show! In terms of his legacy, I think only the Cellophane Symphony lp and "Crystal Blue Persuasion" are regarded today as "artistic", and even then more along the lines of "Mike Nesmith artistic" instead of "Lennon & McCartney artistic" (i.e. a few nuggets in a catalog of mediocrity as opposed to pure genius.) I believe these opinions to be unfair regarding both Tommy and the Monkees. IMHO, it's time for someone to take a hard revisionist look at rock history and give groups like the Monkees, the Association, Tommy James, Gary Zekley etc. their due. (Do you hear me rock'n'roll hall of shame?!?!) Jason --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Message: 6 Date: Fri, 04 Aug 00 09:40:39 +0100 From: Frank Subject: Memory Lane is where it's at Don't apologise, Martin, Memory Lane is where it's at :-) And since we're strolling down and you seem to remember these days could you tell me if my memory is right. I remember that not too far from Picadilly circus and Shaftsburry Avenue there was a small market place where I used to buy a lot of records. There was a stand there called Rock On, as far as I know it was before the Camden Street shop. Do you know if this stand was the begining of the Rock On story ? Frank >EXCUSE MY LONG STROLL DOWN MEMORY LANE AND THANKS TO ALL >CONTRIBUTERS TO THIS LIST AND SPECTROPOP FOR BEING SO WILLING >TO SHARE THEIR TIME. > >MARTIN --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Message: 7 Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2000 11:12:54 -0700 From: Glenn Sadin Subject: Gary Zekley With all this talk of Gary Zekley lately, I would like to bring your attention to the Romulan/Dionysis LP, "Surfer's Mood Vol II," compiled by my friend Domenic Priore, which has an unreleased demo of Zekley performing "Here Comes the Rain" (dubbed from an acetate). It's a beautiful performance, and far superior to Jan and Dean's version. Glenn Glenn Sadin glenn_mariko Read about JAPANESE POP MUSIC from the 1950s thru the 1990s: http://home.earthlink.net/~glenn_mariko/nihon.htm --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Message: 8 Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2000 21:09:13 -0400 From: Michael Gessner Subject: Re: Yellow Balloon I read that the original version of "Yellow Balloon" was done by Jan & Dean. I looked through all my J& D LPs and haven't found it. Is this true and if so, where can I find it? Thanks, Mike --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- End
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