http://www.spectropop.com ________________________________________________________________________ ______________ ______________ ______________ ______________ ______________ S P E C T R O P O P ______________ ______________ ______________ ________________________________________________________________________ See label for correct playing order: ------------------------------------------------------------------------ There are 5 messages in this issue. Topics in this digest: 1. Jill Gibson From: "Ian Chapman"
2. ultimate pop culture experience From: Bobby 3. Phil Spectors Writing Credits From: paulurbahn 4. Mann/Weil From: "Ian Chapman" 5. Fresh Air From: "James F. Cassidy" ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 1 Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 18:03:29 +0100 From: "Ian Chapman" Subject: Jill Gibson Jason Penick asked:- >What I'm trying to > locate are any other sessions that maybe out there, > including (hopefully) a version of "How Can I..." with > Jill singing. Hi Jason, I'm fairly certain that "It's As Easy As 1,2,3,"/"Jilly's Flip Side" (Imperial 66068) was Jill's only 45. You can of course also hear her singing along with Jan on the Jan & Dean version of "It's As Easy As 1,2,3". Regarding the Yellow Balloon's version of the song, "How Can I Be Down", here's what Gary Zekley said about Jill in an old interview from "Dumb Angel Gazette":- "Jill Gibson had a little apartment over a garage in Westwood, and she came up with the introduction to "How Can I Be Down" on her guitar; she just started singing "...how can I be down, whenever you're around me and I feel you, making me high..." We used to get stoned together and try to write songs. She was going with Lou Adler, and I was married....I used to go over there and we'd try to write...and we worked on a couple of things. She had a *phenomenal* gift for melody, and she came up with "how can I be down, whenever you're around..", that line, that phrase, and I wrote the rest of the song. She phrased it much differently than I did. I loved her phrasing, but I could never get it, I mean I can't sing like certain people can sing, I just don't hear the phrasing." And about "It's As Easy As 1,2,3", Gary says, "Now, that, there's a part in there that I took for one of the songs on the Yellow Balloon album...."please won't you go away, you know that I can't stay, summer is here and I want to be free.." THAT'S her writing, isn't that good writing? We did one other thing together, I can't remember what it was. I thought "It's As Easy As 1,2,3" was an amazing song." There was also quite a bit of interesting coverage on Jill in Michelle Phillips' autobiography. I wonder, Jason, if your friend may also have any info on another Jan Berry session - not by Jill, but another girl singer, apparently named Pixie, on a girl-group number called "I'm Dying To Give My Love To You". A few very bad taped copies of this were in circulation many years ago. Sound quality was poor, taken from a bad acetate, but there was enough to hear what an great track it was. Ian --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Message: 2 Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 08:23:45 EDT From: Bobby Subject: ultimate pop culture experience I received this from Skip Heller last week: "I went bowling Sat night at a small gathering hosted by Phil Spector. Phil autographed my box set. Hal Blaine was there, and brought his own mariachi trio. He didn't play with the trio -- he just hired them and brought them with. I asked to sit in just as they were packing up. It was a most interesting gathering. Spector arrived in a stretch limo and was met at the door of the bowling alley by two henchmen. He was wearing a black suit with bell bottom trousers circa 1974, platform shoes (also circa 1974), and a Jheri curl toupee. He also wore huge black aviator shades. One of the arcane little bits about Spector one never gets to hear is that he is actually a very friendly, charming fellow. He's also incredibly sharp. I noticed he remembered everybody's name without having to think for a second about it. But there is also something slightly removed about the guy, as if he is, before anything else, alone. It's almost like these gatherings are his periodic visitations to the world of people. He works the room, says hello to everyone, chats briefly, but never really enters any kind of in-depth conversation, except with his pair of henchmen, or his daughter. Mostly, I stood around talking records with Dr Demento (a lovely fellow), but every so often I'd stare back at Spector. Because of the shades, I could never tell if he noticed me doing this. But one never spends an evening in the company of a famously elusive beast without looking twice " blh --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Message: 3 Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 23:34:08 EDT From: paulurbahn Subject: Phil Spectors Writing Credits Jack wrote: > I'm still not so sure about his contributions to those > songs where his name is the third one on the songwriting > credit. As I understand it there is no fixed order for the credits all share equally. Many times the writer no longer gets money but don't know how that works on Spector's hits. One thing for sure, on Phil Spector label releases Phil's name is usually listed first. I guess I'd do the same. Paul Urbahns --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Message: 4 Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 17:57:51 +0100 From: "Ian Chapman" Subject: Mann/Weil Hi everybody, Just to let you know Barry & Cynthia did a great interview with Spencer Leigh in the July issue of the UK Record Collector magazine. Far too long to reproduce here, but a here's a couple of eyebrow-raisers:- Cynthia says that, although Phil Spector made a great record of "Uptown", there were a couple of notes in the original melody that the singer (of the Crystals) didn't hit and she and Barry were crushed by this, so they persuaded Phil to go in the studio and do it again with Little Eva. He supposedly did so to humour them, but stuck with the Crystals' version for release. Hmmm, okay...... Cynthia also laughs with embarrassment about her singing abilities when Spencer mentions he has heard her demo of the song "The Home Of The Boy I Love" (as originally released by Lori Martin). She claims that she and Barry didn't write the song, but she sang the demo for somebody else. But copies of the record are credited to Mann/Weil, so........? Regarding "We've Got To Get Out Of This Place", Cynthia says she was furious to find that Mickie Most's version with the Animals left out the second verse and changed some of the lyrics, and she wanted to stop the record's release in the US. But their publisher, Don Kirshner said it was going to be a hit and he wouldn't stop a hit. (By the way, Barry's fab original version *has* been legitimately released, it's on Diamond's "Red Bird Sound Vol. 4 - Dressed in Black") And their comments about Phil echo what has been said previously in Spectropop, that they "have only the warmest feelings for him". As for writing, they say that it was Phil who initiated "Walking In The Rain", as he already had the sound effects and suggested they write something around them! Ian --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Message: 5 Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 09:28:16 -0400 From: "James F. Cassidy" Subject: Fresh Air John Frank wrote: >Terry Gross not only celebrates jazz heritage; >she's also had some fine interviews with people from the >rock/pop/r+b era, too, and they're not always with the usual >suspects. I concur. Off the top of my head, she's done some memorable interviews with: Bobby Vee Brian Wilson (the best was the '88 interview) Nick Venet (talking about Bobby Darin) Dan Penn & Spooner Oldham (interview/performing) Arthur Alexander ... and many more. You can order tapes and transcripts of the programs at: http://www.freshair.com/tapes.html I've never ordered one, so I can't vouch for the service or quality. Unfortunately, they don't have an alphabetical listing of guests, just a search engine, so you need to know what you're looking for. Jim Cassidy --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- End
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