http://www.spectropop.com __________________________________________________________________ ______________ ______________ ______________ S P E C T R O P O P ______________ ______________ ______________ __________________________________________________________________ Volume #0423 June 27, 2000 __________________________________________________________________ designed to give you many years of trouble-free listening pleasure Subject: There Go the Girls Received: 06/24/00 9:38 am From: Ian Chapman To: Spectropop! Jack M. wrote: > Once again demonstrating my cluelessness, I wonder if > someone could help bring me up to date on the most > recent state of the Here Come The Girls series. I > currently own volume numbers: > > 1 (catalog NEX CD 111) > 3 (catalog NEX CD 193) > 4 (catalog SEQUEL 1012-2, and actually labeled "Volume 1" > but I'm pretty sure it's supposed to be volume 4) > 6 (catalog NEM CD 718) > 7 (catalog NEM CD 752) > 8 (catalog NEM CD 845) > 9 (catalog NEM CD 950) > > What if anything comes after volume 9? And who carries > the discs of this series? Hi Jack, Volume 10 was the final vol. in the series and was a double set, entitled "Girls Don't Come" (NEECD 327) - it came out earlier this year. I think they decided they'd used everything worth using regarding the Pye girls, although I maintain they could still squeeze one more decent CD from the catalogue - there are still good unused items by such names as Sandra Barry, the Intentions, Polly Brown, Sam and Antoinette, to name a few. Can't quite figure out your catalog # for Vol. 4 - it should be NEX CD 238 - entitled "You Can Be Wrong About Boys" - my copy doesn't say Vol. 1 anywhere. I notice you didn't list Vol. 2 - it's no longer available, but it was entitled "Take 3 Girls" (NEX CD 177) and comprised tracks by Julie Grant, Billie Davis and Helen Shapiro. Ian --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Subject: Q for Mr. Hal David Received: 06/24/00 9:38 am From: Marc Wielage To: Spectropop! Two quick questions for Mr. David: First, let me say that, like many others on this list, I've been a tremendous fan of Bacharach-David's work during the 1960s and 1970s. I always felt that it was unfortunate that sometimes Burt's melodies got most of the spotlight, when the reality was that without Hal's lyrics, a lot of great hits like "Do You Know the Way to San Jose" or "Windows of the World" would've been just pretty tunes, as opposed to the pop classics that they justifiably became. My questions are: Not a lot of details have ever been divulged about the unfortunate split-up between Bacharach, David, and Dionne Warwick in 1973, in the aftermath of LOST HORIZON. My understanding was that (depending on which history book you believe) Dionne was either unhappy that she wasn't given any of these songs to sing, or that she was angry that the two songwriters ignored her career while concentrating on the more lucrative movie soundtrack market. Regardless, I know that the movie was unsuccessful, Bacharach & David split-up, and because they couldn't write songs together anymore, Dionne chose to sue. I know it was a painful period, but would Mr. David be willing to tell his side of the story? I hope that after nearly three decades, maybe it won't be too painful to recall the details. Secondly: I suspect Mr. David has a lot of terrific stories to tell about his many years in the music business. Would you ever consider writing an autobiography, ala Alan Jay Lerner's excellent book ON THE STREET WHERE I LIVE? I bet there are many people out there who would enjoy reading your story. --MFW -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- -= Marc Wielage | "The computerized authority =- -= MusicTrax, LLC | on rock, pop, & soul." =- -= Chatsworth, CA | musictrax.com =- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Subject: question for Hal David Received: 06/24/00 9:38 am From: Tom Waters To: Spectropop! I've always thought that the most beautiful song by Hal David and Burt B. is "If I Never Get to Love You". I was wondering how this song came into being and if it was written for anyone in particular. I have two recordings of it, one by Gene Pitney and the other by Marianne Faithfull. Pitney's version is exciting and I enjoy the way he attacks the song (as he does all songs), but Marianne's version really brings out the beauty of the song in a way that does it full justice. What is the story behind this amazing song? Tom --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Subject: Three for Hal Received: 06/26/00 9:38 am From: Jamie LePage To: Spectropop! Since the last Spectropop I have been listening to a lot of Hal David-penned records, paying particular attention to the words. I was reminded once again of how on many songs the lyrics feel happy and optimistic at the hook, yet on closer examination are lonely and desperate. Always Something There To Remind Me, What the World Needs Now is Love, Do You Know the Way to San Jose and This Guy's In Love With You each utilize this device to great effect; An instantly memorable sing-song hook segues to this intense longing in the verses. I'll tell you one thing - that contrast gives deep emotional impact to many Bacharach/David penned recordings. My first question is: Did this contrast between happy, catchy hooks and low, moody verses come as a natural marriage to the melodies or as a deliberate application of learned skills as a lyricist? Would the contrast of lyrical mood sometimes influence Burt's melodies? Next I want to ask about "the one that got away." You must be very gratified when Close To You became such a big song long after Dionne's LP version was first issued. Are there any others from this particular period of your career that you feel have yet to reach their potential? Lastly, please tell us a bit about your songs. Many Brill writers were signed to Aldon, Trio, Hill & Range, etc. Publishing credits on Dionne's Scepter LPs list Blue Seas/ Jac Music. Was Jac Music your own company? If so, wasn't it unusual for a songwriter to be self-published in those days? Thanks so much for your time. All the best, Jamie "one less egg to fry" LePage --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Subject: ONE recording session Received: 06/24/00 9:38 am From: Rex Patton To: Spectropop! At 08:10 AM 6/19/00 +0900, Jack Madani wrote: > >the I Got You Babe session, because I'd like to see the >look on the faces of the musicians during playback when >they realized that Sonny "don't forget the fries when you >come back with the hamburgers" Bono had come up something >that good. That would have been something to see. I think the looks on the faces of the musicians during and after the session would probably have reflected them thinking "I wonder if Sonny is going to take credit for this?" While the record itself is a classic piece of pop, the song is basically a ripoff of Donovan's "Catch The Wind" and the song was arranged by Harold Battiste, who, from what I've read, did most of the work on the Sonny and Cher duo and solo efforts. --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Subject: Sonny as producer/Experience Music Museum Received: 06/24/00 9:38 am From: Carol Kaye To: Spectropop! > because I'd like to see the look on the faces of the > musicians during playback when they realized that Sonny > "don't forget the fries when you come back with the > hamburgers" Bono had come up something that good. That > would have been something to see. After our first session with Sonny, no-one was surprised. He quickly proved how great he was in the booth as a producer -- tap his foot in time? No, but he could do something better: produce some great hits for himself and Cher - he was super at knowing what kind of backgrounds, arrangements for what he called "just little tunes that weren't hardly anything" -- he did it.. Something I think the public really has no idea of, they're so fooled by the persona, the false front of what he's always put people on with. He knew exactly what he was doing in the booth, was an excellent producer, could produce more different kinds of styles as hit records probably better than Phil Spector. I'm off soon to go to Seattle to do a seminar there on "Studio Work, the bass role in it", plus do a concert with our Jazz Trio "Thumbs Up" (Ray Pizzi and Mitch Holder). We're playing for the opening ceremonies for Paul Allen's Experience Music Museum June 23-24, the only straight-ahead jazz group to do so. BTW, all the bass sounds you hear in the museum are from the recordings I did for EMP months ago along with the personally-filmed interview playing and talking they sent a film-crew down here to do a couple of years ago....lots of press on this fabulous museum. After a chance personal article in the NY Times about my website etc., NPR Morning Edition w/Bob Edwards did a nice interview (see link below) and a multi-person NPR one with Brian Wilson on the making of Good Vibrations on this Monday 19th in the afternoon, so much happening. Carol Kaye http://www.carolkaye.com/ PPS. There's also a wonderful feature interview I managed to get for the magazine I write a regular column for, Bassics Magazine, on Brian Wilson, how he wrote out the bass lines, etc. Will be out in about 2 weeks in major music stores. --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Subject: that one recording session Received: 06/24/00 9:38 am From: David Marshall To: Spectropop! I know this probably isn't the genre under discussion, but Boheamian Rhapsody would have had to have been very interesting. If not that Heroes and Villians. dave marshall --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Subject: The Girls won Received: 06/24/00 9:38 am From: Paul Urbahns To: Spectropop! John wrote: << Looks like Ronnie & the girls won http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/nm/20000616/en/music-ronettes_1.html >> True, it's too bad the girls didn't ask for non exclusive rights to the recordings so both they and Spector could license the material. The judge was right in not taking the recordings away from Phil. But if Ronnie had rights to issue them too then at least the stuff would be available on more than just the Abkco label. The Ronettes tracks along with the Crystals should be represented on every girl group comp on the market just like the Shirelles. But as long as Phil controls the masters, it will not happen. I have the songs myself,but the next generation is not going to hear them unless they get spread around. 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