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Spectropop V#0415

  • From: The Spectropop Group
  • Date: 05/07/00

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       Volume #0415                             May 7, 2000   
                      Music Everywhere You Go                 
    Subject:     The Fleetwoods
    Received:    05/07/00 12:21 pm
    From:        John Hesterman
    To:          Spectropop!         
    Greetings to all :)
    Does anyone on the list have information on a recording by
    The Fleetwoods called "Just As I Need You?" It was the flip
    side of "Rainbow", I believe on the Dolton label. I would 
    appreciate any details, including info on a CD release if 
    there has been one. I've seen a lot of Fleetwood CD's, but
    so far none of them include these two selections. Thank you
    all in advance! This is a GREAT forum :)
    John Hesterman
    A Grape :)
    Also an Offbeat :)
    With a TRACE of music in there somewhere!
    You're invited to visit The Grapes Of Wrath Web Site at:
    You're invited to visit The Offbeats Web Site at:
    You're invited to visit the Gear Fab Records Web Site at:
    You're invited to visit the Twist & Shake Fanzine Web Site at:
    NOW ON THE WEB! THE DOMAIN! Please Visit!
    Enjoy :)
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    Subject:     Darlene Love
    Received:    05/03/00 11:37 am
    From:        john rausch
    To:          Spectropop!         
    Here is an intesting link to the Rosie O Donnell site with 2 
    clips of Darlene performing.
    John Rausch
    Phil Spector`s Wall Of Sound @
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    Subject:     RE: Mirasound
    Received:    05/03/00 11:37 am
    From:        Phil Chapman
    To:          Spectropop!         
    According to various credits on the Shangri-Las recordings
    UltraSonic was one of the studios they used, along with 
    Mirasound. The Raindrops album is entirely credited to 
    Mirasound and engineer Brooks Arthur, who, if it was he, 
    is a hero in my book for the outrageous 4-bar compression 
    drumbreak in "The Kind Of Boy....". I understand "What A 
    Guy" was a demo, but I assumed Jeff & Ellie would have 
    stuck with Mirasound/Brooks for their future Red Bird 
    stuff. Most of the 'produced' Shangri-Las recordings have 
    a kind of homogeneous penetrating top end, with the 
    notable exception of "Out In The Streets" which is 
    screech-free, with clear drums & echo and a wonderful 
    subsonic bass end - I'd like to know more about this 
    recording. I agree that the drums on The Locomotion sound 
    great, but they don't have anything to compete with, other
    than a couple of saxes & vocals - the bass & acoustic are 
    quite low in the mix. I'm referring to Phil's style of 
    production where peak frequencies can build up with 
    multiple overdubs, and that is significant on "I Wonder". 
    Incidentally, Neil Diamond's Bang recordings have this 
    quality, does anybody know where he recorded those early 
    Jeff & Ellie tracks? 
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    Subject:     Re: yikes, I can't remember how to spell Edie's name
    Received:    05/03/00 11:37 am
    From:        WASE RADIO
    To:          Spectropop!         
    To Jack:
    The name is Eydie Gorme'. This kind of reminds me. My 
    parents had two albums by her. One was "Showstoppers" her 
    album of famous Broadway tunes. One of the earliest albums
    to be recorded in stereo. Could now be out on CD. I would 
    hope so. I thought it was great.
    The other album that my folks had was "Gorme' Country 
    Style"-simply her doing country songs in her pop style. I 
    read that many of her old ABC-Paramount albums are out on 
    CD-but none of her Columbia stuff is. A shame.
                                           Michael G. Marvin
                                            WASE radio
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    Subject:     Various
    Received:    05/03/00 11:37 am
    From:        Carol Kaye
    To:          Spectropop!         
    >>>>This gets me thinking of Chris Montez. You played bass
    on some of his tracks, right Carol? I just bought a Montez 
    "Best of" and nearly every song got the same beat, rhythms
    and arrangement. "Call Me" must've been some kind of blue 
    print for you know who arranged his music? As far
    as I know, Herb Alpert only was the producer. Anyway, most 
    of his songs sound like they were indeed recorded in the 
    same 3-hour session!<<<
    Tobias, yes, I'm playing on all of Chris Montez's things 
    of the 60s, guitar on his 1st hit of "Let's Dance", and 
    then bass after that "The More I See You", "Call Me" etc..
    His music was sort of dry, not much to it, just a nice 
    groove and Chris has a lot of talent, good to work for etc. 
    It took us 3 hours to cut everyone's things 4-5 tunes, 
    all worked that way except for Phil Spector and Brian. 
    I personally like Chris Montez, he's been over to my place
    here to "jam jazz things", he plays a pretty fair am't of 
    guitar. A really nice person and still good-looking too 
    after all these years. About the way he did those 
    standards sometimes tho', having been a stone-cold bebop 
    jazzer, it was kind of hard to play those jazz tunes in 
    the pop vein for me at times....but hey, it's all music - 
    you try for a hit no matter what.
    As for those books out there, my point in speaking about 
    the "library" was that it's pretty evident, they're NOT 
    interested in those books -- and according to others I've 
    spoken with across the country, they say the same things -- 
    not much action about those books. Everyone says "they 
    sell with that sleaze", I beg to differ - maybe a little 
    at first years back but not so much now -- I think the 
    public is just as sick of them as I am (almost)....they 
    don't really sell that well at all (except to "libraries").
    Our "Thumbs Up" is in all the Tower and Wherehouse stores,
    under the label "MR-C", our own partnership label (our 
    initials Mitch, Ray, Carol). It's being played on quite a 
    few jazz stations (and a few pop ones as well) across the 
    Best, Carol Kaye
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    Subject:     Chris Montez
    Received:    05/03/00 11:37 am
    From:        Jamie LePage
    To:          Spectropop!         
    Tobias wrote:
    >I just bought a Montez 
    >"Best of" and nearly every song got the same beat, rhythms 
    >and arrangement. "Call Me" must've been some kind of blue 
    >print for you know who arranged his music? As far
    >as I know, Herb Alpert only was the producer. Anyway, most 
    >of his songs sound like they were indeed recorded in the 
    >same 3-hour session!
    Welcome, little brother, to the A&M Sound. Granted, not all 
    A&M releases fall into the same pattern, but enough do 
    that a definable sound can be attributed to the name A&M. 
    What are the common denominators? For one, great 
    songwriting and song selection (the R in A&R). Bacharach/
    David come up quite often, Lennon/McCartney and Brian 
    Wilson covers show up regularly, and of course there were 
    the Almo staff writers like Roger Nichols to furnish 
    material to the A&M artists. 
    Sandpipers, Bacharach, Claudine Longet, Small Circle of 
    Friends and Chris Montez typify the sound - a decidedly 
    "young adult"-oriented approach. The records seem to be 
    targeted not at the slightly younger rock and roll crowd, 
    but rather the 25 to 35 year old audience that embraced 
    60s pop/rock to an extent while clinging to the more 
    traditional forms of contemporary popular music like big 
    band and bossanova.
    With excellent A&R, superb arrangers and great 
    musicianship, there was little need for experimentation to
    make high quality recordings. Herb Alpert and Co. were not 
    trying to outdo Sgt. Pepper's, or push the borders as 
    Brian Wilson had, or even for that matter introduce a "new" 
    type of artists a la VDP/Randy Newman as W/B were doing 
    across the hill on Barham. No, A&M were content to release
    wonderfully crafted if unchallenging pop music to the 
    masses, culminating with the enormous success of the 
    Carpenters, perhaps the last of the A&M artists molded in 
    the classic A&M style.
    It is true that many of Chris Montez' A&M sides have a 
    similar style. The production often used the Frank Guido 
    "live-in-the-studio with all my friends" approach, but the 
    groove is easy, the singing so relaxing, and once again, 
    the songwriting is fantastic.
    All I can suggest to you, Toby, about the A&M sound is: 
    Don't expect to be challenged, or overwhelmed. It's easy, 
    light, and wonderfully appealing.
    One final note, Call Me was definitely NOT the Chris 
    Montez blueprint. Years before Call Me, Montez was a 
    Latino rocker with two big hits - Let's Dance and Some 
    Kinda Fun, both rockin' little rekkids that share nothing
    with the later Montez sides cut for A&M. As far as I know 
    there are no Montez releases with these hits together with
    his A&M sides.
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    Subject:     Spectropop post
    Received:    05/03/00 11:37 am
    From:        Bob Hanes
    To:          Tobias Bernsand
    CC:          Spectropop!         
    I won't even try and explain why you're naive about the 
    biz these days, it just ain't that simple. Talk to David 
    Leaf or Brad Elliott or anyone that wrote an honest book 
    and went the indie route. Whew! However, the Dennis Wilson
    book by John Stebbins is to Dennis as David Leaf's book was
    to Brian. Very accurate and very sympathetic and very well 
    written and very very worth buying. On the other hand they
    (the aforementioned authors)/we love(d) these two 
    characters very much, it might be fair to accuse the book 
    of being bias in Dennis" behalf.. Not wrong or inaccurate,
    just slanted, a bit. Interestingly enough, Chris Montez is/
    was from Hawthorne and went to Hawthorne High School. 
    That's right, he too was a Cougar. Another unimportant 
    factoid for the Swede over there in the third row with so 
    damn many names that I've finally lost count. Go crimson 
    and gold!?
    The Right Reverend Bob, dumb angel chapel, The Church of the Harmonic
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    Subject:     re: echoplex machines and maestrovoxes..
    Received:    05/02/00 12:55 am
    From:        Rough Trade Shop
    To:          Spectropop!
    I have an echoplex machine which i find just perfect for 
    putting my guitar through....its main drawback is that its
    rather heavy...( a big black heavy box - about the size of 
    an old dansette! but kinda taller...). i spent a whole day
    in music shops once trying to find a smaller (digital 
    even...) pedal which would be a more portable alternative. 
    i had no luck finding anything which sounded anywhere near 
    as good! any ideas anyone?
    also this week i brought a 'maestrovox' which is a really 
    old monophonic (is that the right word? only one note at a
    time?) keyboard with its own built in amplifier...kinda 
    primitive but cute....
    does anyone know any websites where i could find out more 
    about them?
    any info appreciated!
    x delia x
    >	The other
    >method is using tape delay. A continuous loop tape is run
    >on a machine with the record heads and playback heads
    >both simultaneously in use, and the distance between the
    >record head and playback would determine the length of
    >the delay. Usually these devices would have a control
    >that would allow you to adjust the distance of the heads
    >(i.e.: the length of the delay). This is the theory
    >behind the Echoplex machine (which used tape cartridges
    >instead of open reel tape), popular with guitarists in
    >the pre-digital days.
    >   Glenn Sadin
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