__________________________________________________________ __________ __________ __________ S P E C T R O P O P __________ __________ __________ __________________________________________________________ Volume #0409 April 19, 2000 __________________________________________________________ Pace Setter of the Networks Subject: Re: barnstorming production Received: 04/17/00 1:31 am From: Billy G. Spradlin To: Spectropop! >Anybody else on the list got any barnstorming production >favs? > >Jake Tassell Wow, I love those type of "Needle Banging into the Red" productions with Maximum compression and reverb too. The more compression, distortion, sibilance and loudness the better, who gives a damn about High Fidelity?? Todays 64 track digital recordings sound so sterile and lifeless compared to these powerful records that were recorded on primitive 3 and 4 track tube equipment. Producers like Spector, Greenwich/Berry, Bob Crewe, Shadow Morton, Motown and others back then knew how to mix a record to jump out of speakers via AM radio and grab listeners attention. I Love British girl group records where UK producers tried to copy USA production techniques and wound up with a very unique sound. The Breakaways "Thats How It Goes" where the drums are so compressed the snare sounds like a machine gun, The McKinleys "Someone Cares For Me" (love the BOOM ending) and the Orchids "Love Hit Me" are just fantastic records. I love the way the way the compressed handclaps sound on Anoinette's "There He Goes (The Boy I love). After listening to many British Girl Group compilations (thanks Malcom and Mick) you can really hear Joe Meek's influence too. Crank it Up! Billy G. Billy G. Spradlin 29 Rim Road Kilgore, Texas 75662 Homepage: http://home.earthlink.net/~bgspradlin/ Jangle Radio: http://home.earthlink.net/~bgspradlin/janglepop.html --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Subject: The hit with the black eye Received: 04/15/00 12:54 pm From: DJ JimmyB To: Spectropop! In a message dated 4/13/0 2:27:45 PM, you wrote: >But a lot of the more obscure records take time Indeed they take time, that time being time just to find the record, because often for simple lack of promotion, politics or a lucky stroke, the obscure one didn't "make" it. Often the quality of an obscurity is every bit as good as a "hit" In fact I like them better because they are newer to the ear. >and some of the obscure records, after a few listens, turn out to be a lot better >than the "hits." They don't even need a few listens at this address. If a rekkid is good i know it right off the bat most of the time. But they are indeed often better than the hits. JB/would rather hear "The Guy With The Black Eye" than "My Boyfriend's Back" anyday --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Subject: Anita Kerr/"Butch Cassidy" soundtrack question Received: 04/15/00 12:54 pm From: Brad Bigelow To: Spectropop! Can anyone on this list confirm whether the voices on "South American Getaway" on the soundtrack to "Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid" soundtrack are Anita Kerr and her singers? Brad --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Subject: groovy baby yah Received: 04/19/00 2:28 am From: Jack Madani To: Spectropop! does Rev-Ola have the coolest home page ever, or what? The arrows! and that MUSIC!! What is that music from? http://www.creation.co.uk/revola/ (where you can find albums by Tony Jacklin, Nichelle Nichols, and David McCallum, among others--what, no William Shatner?) --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Subject: Was she from Mars or something? Received: 04/15/00 12:54 pm From: Through Zero To: Spectropop! Where, oh where is some bio information on Miss Toni Fisher? Two big hits - "The Big Hurt" (1959) and "West Of The Wall" (1962) You able to help? Thanks! A fan --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Subject: yes shatner Received: 04/19/00 2:28 am From: Jack Madani To: Spectropop! oops, sorry, spoke too soon on that Rev-Ola site. Shatner is indeed there. --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Subject: Some comments on #408... Received: 04/15/00 12:54 pm From: Jamie LePage To: Spectropop! Ian Chapman wrote about Funny How Love Can Be >> Imagine loving the Ivy League original! What a travesty >> the kitchen sink version would likely be. > >...the Ivy League version...remains to me one of the most >appealing and poignantly performed records in the "harmony" >genre. And whilst I wouldn't by any means label the >Danny Hutton version "a travesty", I've never quite been >able to get into it. Hi Ian, As someone who heard the Ivy League original long after the Hutton cover, I found your comment most interesting. I do so admire Carter/Lewis' work. I wondered if you had any idea how these Denmark Street writers got their songs placed with Vine Street post-surf artists? Charles G. Hill wrote about "Two to Tango" >At least one copy made it to my shelf, as Philles 134, b/w >"A Man Is A Man Is A Man". No matrix numbers, for some >reason, but "APRIL-2" is scratched into the dead wax on >the Tango side, and "APRIL 3" on the other. I checked my copy and sure enough the matrix etchings are identical. I also checked 135 and 136, and found the following' 135 I'll Never Need More Than This b/w Cash Box Blues The I&TT A-side has the matrix number but also has April 3G etched in the runoff groove. The B-side, a typical throwaway instrumental (title must be a reference to the failure of RDMH), has "45 B.S. #24", so I assume this was mastered at a different time and available for whatever single Phil needed a B. B.S. must refer to B-side, I would think. 136 A Love Like Yours b/w I Idolize You The A has a matrix number but also has April 5 etched into the wax. The B, which undoubtedly Spector viewed as a throwaway track produced by Ike, has April 6 etched into the wax as well as a matrix number. Very strange...It implies that Spector mastered these three singles all within the period of four days! I wonder what was up with that? >Surely these tracks must have surfaced somewhere else by now. Both sides of Philles 134 are on the CD "Phil Spector - Off the Wall". There is a jpeg of the cover and the track listing at the Spectropop website under Phil Spector CDs. Michael Gessner wrote about John Tuturro's performance: >I thought that the Turturro character is closer to Don >Kirshner I watched the video with a friend over the weekend per everyone's suggestion and took out the soundtrack again for the first time in several years, and I liked both the soundtrack and film more now than when it first came out. Once you get over the fact vs. fiction mental block, I think it really depicts how the Brill Building must have operated. Of course Turturro's role is a Don Kirschner/Al Nivens-type publishing guy (clearly not a record man), but his persona is Spector all the way! I remember laughing out loud when Turturro replies to Illeana "Phil Spector? He's finished!" The only mention of Spector in a film about the Brill Building! I don't have any evidence, but I am certain he wouldn't approve of a Spector character in the film nor license any music for it either, so I guess that the only way to work a Spector type character into the film was to make him a different sort of mogul, hence the Kirschner character looking like Spector. The part of the film I didn't like at all the first time and which sat with me only slightly better this time was the scene in Jay's beachfront studio when the band (Redd Kross) are listening to the quasi-Smile track. There's Jay, rather short haired and clean cut, and then there's the band, looking most decidedly post-modern (even longhairs didn't have haircuts like THAT in 1967!). Because the band looked so wrong for the part, I think the filmmakers missed the opportunity to show how, at the time, the "conservative" members of bands rebelled against the "creative geniuses'" experimentations. The snippet of music used in this scene, too, didn't adequately relate an inherent "weirdness/genius", and it seems to me that was, after all, the intended point of the scene. A minor complaint; I really did enjoy seeing this film again, and I recommend it to anyone interested in Brill Building pop. sheila b commented: >>Also, I think "us" types tend at times to champion obscure >>songs at the expense of hits. My guess is that if we did a >>"blind ear tasting" of 50 random girl group hits and 50 >>girl group obscurities, we'd favor the hits. > >There's no argument that the GG hits were not completely >stunning, BUT I'd like to stand up for the obscure records >and say that if the public gave songs like Margaret >Mandolph's "I wanna make you happy" or Reparata and the >Delrons "Nobody's baby..." a chance, they really might >have been hits. Yeah! I think it is important to remember the quality of hits during this time. There were so many great records coming out all at once, it is no wonder so many classics never charted at the time. Take the Caravelles, for instance. Their "You Don't Have To Be a Baby to Cry" is great, but the lesser known "Other Side of Love" blows it away! Also, I prefer nearly everything else Lesley Gore did far more than It's My Party or Judy's Turn to Cry. Dave is right that collector-types tend to glorify the obscurities over the hits, but in the case of the girl groups, I believe many records that slipped through the cracks at the time have, over time, proven themselves to be more interesting than many of the period's big sellers. Some very interesting threads here lately. Thanks everyone! Jamie --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Subject: AN EXCEEDINGLY GOOD FRIDAY Received: 04/19/00 2:28 am From: CHRIS KING To: Spectropop! Dear fellow Spectropopsters & Spectropopstrels - A final reminder that DA DOO RON RON my femme-tastic (you won't hear a single MALE lead vocalist!) celebration of 60 's girl groups & sassy soul sisters is on in London this Friday - GOOD FRIDAY - 21st APRIL Upstairs @ The GARAGE. Myself & DJ partner Mark Norton will spin fab 45's from the likes of The Ronettes, Dusty, Velvelettes, Cookies, Crystals, Helen Shapiro, Petula, Shangri-La's, Supremes, Sandie, Lulu, Darlene Love, Vandellas, Nancy Sinatra, Aretha, Paper Dolls, Barbara Lewis, Tammi Terrell et al Full details below. Kindest regards, Chris King Good Friday 21st APRIL - Upstairs @ The GARAGE, 20 - 22, Highbury Corner, London N1 (Venue Tel:-0171-607-1818) 9pm - 3am L4 w / flyer L5 w / o DJ's Chris D King & Mark Norton For more info please check out the DDRR Web site:- http://www.shimokawakelly.freeserve.co.uk/index.html or E-mail me:- --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Subject: The Liquid Room Received: 04/19/00 2:28 am From: David Ponak To: Spectropop! The Liquid Room airs every Saturday morning from 3-6AM on KPFK 90.7FM in Southern California. Also check out my show "The Nice Age" at www.spikeradio.com every Sunday afternoon from 3-6PM. The Liquid Room 4/15/00 1.The Association-Come On In Birthday (WB) 2.DJ Food with Ken Nordine-The Ageing Young Rebel A Dub Plate Of DJ Food (Ninja Tune) 3.Paul Mauriat-Get Back L.O.V.E. (Phillips) 4.Saint Etienne-How We Used To Live Single (Mantra-UK) 5.Linus Of Hollywood-When I Get To California Your Favorite Record (Pop Squad) 6.Gary Usher-Sacramento Single (Capitol) 7.The MiGs-Honolulu Debut 8.Pink Floyd-Arnold Layne The Early Singles (Columbia) 9.Les Baxter-Simba The Exotic Moods Of... (Capitol) 10.One Star-Journey To South Paradise Triangulum (March) 11.The Evolution Control Committee-The Whipped Cream Mixes 7" (Eerie Materials) 12.The Evolution Control Committee-Rocked By Rape 7" (Eerie Materials) 13.Broadcast-Come On Let's Go The Noise Made By People (Warp/Tommy Boy) Amazing Record! 14.Denki Groove-Eine Kleine Melody/Nothings Gonna Change Voxxx (Ki/oon Japan) 15.Haruomi Hosono-Galaga Video Game Music (Yen-Japan) 16.Brian Reitzel & Roger Joseph Manning Jr.-Metropia Logan's Sanctuary Soundtrack (Emperor Norton) 17.Tomovsky-Tengoku Wa Tengoku Ja Nasasoo Orange Fiction (Sony-Japan) 18.Billy Vaughn-Time Of The Season Windmills Of Your Mind (Dot) 19.Towa Tei-Butterfly (Cornelius Remix) 12" Promo (Elektra) 20.Marvin Gaye-I Want You I Want You (Motown) 21.Summer Hymns-Stick Your Mind In The Wind Voice Brother & Sister (Misra) 22.The New Renaisance Society-Tell Me (You're Coming Back To Me) Baroque 'N Stones (Hanna Barbera) 23.Ladytron-He Took Her To A Movie Miss Black And Her Friends (Bambini-Japan) 24.The Box Tops-Neon Rainbow The Best Of.. (Arista) 25.Japancakes-Version 1 Down The Elements (Kindercore) 26.Booker T. & The M.G.'s-Sun King/Mean Mr. Mustard/ Polythene Pam/She Came In Through The Bathroom Window/ I Want You (She's So Heavy) Medley-McLemore Ave. (Stax) 27.Stereolab-The Super It The Stereolab Underground Is Coming (Duophonic) 28.The Kinks-Dandy Face To Face (Pye-UK) 29.Sam Paglio-Nightclub Tropez Nightclub Tropez (La Douce) 30.Michel Polnaref-La Michetonneause Les Premiere Annes (Universal) 31.Mint Royale-Don't Falter On The Ropes (Faith & Hope-UK) 32.Alfred E. Neuman-It's A Gas Dementia 2000 (Rhino) 33.The Heavy Blinkers-Liquid Room Jingle 34.The Lovin' Spoonful-Younger Girl Greatest Hits (Buddah) 35.YMO-Technopolis (Konishi Remix) YMO Remixes (Victor-Japan) 36.Ann-Margret/Lee Hazlewood-You Turn My Head Around The Cowboy And The Lady (Bonus Track-SLR) 37.Scott Walker-Thanks For Chicago Mr. James Till The Band Comes In (BGO-UK) 38.Sammy Davis Jr.-Ee-O Eleven Sammy & Friends (Rhino) 39.Mouse On Mars-Pinwheel Herman Niun Niggung (Thrill Jockey) 40.Richard Hayman-The Look Of Love The Geniune Electric Latin Love Machine (Command) 41.David Axelrod-The Mental Traveler Song Of Innocense (Acension) 42.Miki Hirayama-Itsuka Dokoka de Good Night Tokyo (Readymade-Japan) 43.Francis Lai-Party Music-Show Out I'll Never Forget What's 'Isname Soundtrack (Decca) 44.Paul Williams-Morning I'll Be Moving On Someday Man (Reprise) --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- End
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