http://groups.yahoo.com/group/spectropop __________________________________________________________ __________ __________ __________ S P E C T R O P O P __________ __________ __________ __________________________________________________________ Volume #0404 April 6, 2000 __________________________________________________________ Special Disc Jockey Record __________________________________________________________ Subject: Overproductions Received: 04/06/00 2:57 am From: David Feldman To: Spectropop! > If My Car Could Only Talk To Me - Lou Christie. Forgive me, for I think I posted about this before, but the mention of one of my favorite Lou Christie songs and the ongoing "favorite moments in girl groups songs" brings to mind that I have a soft spot for songs/albums who are "overproduced" in thrilling ways. There is always something moving about watching someone's reach outstrip his grasp. That's one reason why Ed Wood is a moving figure, and not a merely a laughable one. Of course, even a brilliant artist can "overproduce," too. To my taste, for example, "River Deep" falls into that category, IMO -- I know this is heresy, but the Spector recording doesn't move me nearly as much as "Walking in the Rain" or "A Fine, Fine Boy" or "(Today I Met) The Boy I'm Going to Marry," because he buries the song, and it's a GOOD SONG (I realized this most profoundly when I heard Darlene Love sing it recently with a 4-piece band and no vocal accompaniment backing her up). So if some "overproductions" just strike me as pretentious and "over the top," others I find moving. Here are a few examples: 1. "Funny How Love Can Be" - Danny Hutton. 3 production hooks per ten seconds; everything but the kitchen sink is thrown in, shamefully so. What unbelievable fun. 2. "I'm Into Looking for Someone To Love Me" -- Bobby Vee. Did he produce this himself? A desperate stab at a hit -- a Yorkshire Terrier attempt at one. 3. The whole Johnny Mathis-Thom Bell collaboration, "I'm Coming Home." A shotgun marriage between the then-hottest producer in R&B and the Great Romantic, the results are sometimes hilarious, sometimes gorgeous, almost always interesting. It includes one beautiful anti-abortion polemic ("A Child Is Born"), an anthem ("I'm Coming Home"), a cool R&B cover ("I'm Stone In Love With You") and a crazily ambitious, wildly overproduced but still wonderful "Life Is a Song Worth Living." I'm glad I'm not a music critic. Guess I'd have to carp about the productions on all three of the above, but you'd have to mug me to wrest any of these recordings from my clammy little hands. Dave Feldman http://www.imponderables.com --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Subject: Exciting posts Received: 04/06/00 2:57 am From: john rausch To: Spectropop! Thanks to all who have submitted posts lately, I have enjoyed reading Spectropop lately and there seems to be a lot of activity. It`s like everyone had a burst of energy all of a sudden. I too also enjoyed reading the post by J. Crescitelli. What a great image he has painted with words. I also would like to mention that Ronnie Spector will be performing in NY at the From The Heart IV benifit concert for Timi Yuro. Sunday, April 30th. Location is the Nassau Veterans Memorial Coliseum. Also performing are: Bobby Rydell Joanie Sommers Barbara Harris and the Toys ...just to name a few acts that would interest those on this list. There are also some R&B groups from the doo wop era scheduled. Keep those great posts coming everyone! John Rausch Presenting The Fabulous Ronettes @ http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Studio/2469/ --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Subject: For J.Botticelli & J. Madani Received: 04/06/00 2:57 am From: Jimmy Crescitelli To: Spectropop! <<< This may have been the alltime spectropop post of alltimes. I swear I shed a tear while reading this. --- Jack Madani >>> I heartily concur...Botticelli =================================== Hey you guys, thanks so much! Makes a writer proud to know he's reached his audience. Best, Jimmy Crescitelli P.S. With names like Madani, Botticelli & Crescitelli, it sounds like we've got the makings of a tough Brooklyn guy gang... : ) --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Subject: Barnstormers/Availability Received: 04/06/00 2:57 am From: jake tassell To: Spectropop! Dear Frank I don't know if those records are available. It might be worth checking the Ace catalogue (http://www.acerecords.co.uk). However, there is a RealAudio file of the Holly St. James record at: http://home.clara.net/stevecee/1978.html Jake Tassell [ed. note: Although the Ace website is worth a visit, unfortunately none of the tracks mentioned in Jake's previous post are to be found there.] --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Subject: Re: High Fidelity Received: 04/06/00 2:57 am From: Stewart Mason To: Spectropop! At 06:25 AM 4/5/00 +0900, Spectropop List wrote: >Spectropop Listers in the United States are surely aware >of Touchstone Picture's new romantic comedy release "High >Fidelity," but I wonder if it isn't worth mention here. >There is a lot of hype going around; perhaps members >familiar with the project can present a more balanced >perspective. > >I haven't seen the flick, but the synopsis apparently is: >Self-professed music junkie Rob Gordon (John Cusack) onws >a not-too-successful all-vinyl record store in Chicago. >Rob and his staff, armed with "vast knowledge of pop >music" (I hope that doesn't mean Elton John and Santana!), One of the characters chases a customer out of the store and up the street because he wants to buy Stevie Wonder's "I Just Called To Say I Love You." That answer your question? >converse about their relationships, comparing and >intermingling real life experiences with the music they >love. The screenplay is based on a novel by Nick Hornby. > >Has anyone seen the film yet, and if so, irrespective of >the period of music these "pop" vinyl junkies are "vastly >knowledgeable" about, will it appeal to us music junkies? In a word, yes. To give you an idea, when I bought the book upon its US publication several years ago, my friend Joyce read the jacket copy and said, "Wow! Someone wrote a book about you!" The novel might appeal more than the movie, and I suggest reading it before watching the film (the soundtrack of which ranges from fairly obscure Kinks and Love tracks to a song by current UK press darlings the Beta Band, whose prog-pop-jazz-funk oddities sound like Hatfield and the North crossed with Beck). However, those fans of the novel who worried that the film wouldn't withstand the shift in location from south London to Chicago can rest easy. The movie is exceedingly true to the novel in nearly every respect, and record store geeks exist in every western city. Stewart --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Subject: Re: High Fidelity and Vinyl Received: 04/06/00 2:57 am From: Nat Kone To: Spectropop! Jamie wrote: >I haven't seen the flick, but the synopsis apparently is: >Self-professed music junkie Rob Gordon (John Cusack) onws >a not-too-successful all-vinyl record store in Chicago. >Rob and his staff, armed with "vast knowledge of pop >music" (I hope that doesn't mean Elton John and Santana!), >converse about their relationships, comparing and >intermingling real life experiences with the music they >love. The screenplay is based on a novel by Nick Hornby. That's a good description. I suspect most people here would enjoy the scenes that take place in the record store, if not the scenes that don't. I'm going to take advantage of this moment to do some shameless self-promotion for a film that most of you may never get a chance to see but who knows? Maybe with self-promotion like this, something will change. This is MY documentary on a similar subject to High Fidelity. I started it five years ago but unfortunately it's only emerging into the world now. I so hoped it would emerge just before High Fidelity - which I read after I started my film - but the truth is, it's probably better that it comes out after the Hollywood film has softened the ground a bit. Here's a quasi website, if you can read really small letters. http://www.iprimus.ca/~klymkiw/vinyl.html --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Subject: High Fidelity movie Received: 04/06/00 2:57 am From: Frank Youngwerth To: Spectropop! <
> Well, somewhat. It's plot-heavy, based on a novel that's set in the U.K., not Chicago, which provokes a little confusion here and there. One line of dialog taken right from the book refers to Father whatever and the Smurfs as a potential musical influence on a new band; the Smurfs had some pop hits in England, but never over here, so it probably should have been changed to, oh, something like Schoolhouse Rock. The store itself looks to have an all-too predictable selection (e.g. 70s Isley Brothers, Fleetwood Mac), and its employees are more full of themselves than they are really in the know. In the end I'd say the movie might not be especially sophisticated about records, but it's pretty endearing all the same. Like, the first song you hear is the 13th Floor Elevators' "You're Gonna Miss Me" and the last is Love's "My Little Red Book." Frank in Chicago --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Subject: High Fidelity/Low Obscurity Received: 04/06/00 2:57 am From: DJ JimmyB To: Spectropop! In a message dated 4/4/0 4:21:59 PM, you wrote: >Self-professed music junkie Rob Gordon (John Cusack) onws >a not-too-successful all-vinyl record store in Chicago. >Rob and his staff, armed with "vast knowledge of pop >music" (I hope that doesn't mean Elton John and Santana!), I have yet to see the film version of "High Fidelity" but I read the book about 4 years ago. One of the things that disappointed me was the tip 'o' the iceberg hits the alleged vinyl junkies in the book referred to. All were very well-known songs. The guys I know that run used record shops go for the obscure, cool, and strange sounds not found on the radio. This was my only REAL beef with the book though. I heard from an old friend (boy is this guy old too) that the characters that work in the shop are worth the price of admission... Hope that he'ps..JB --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Subject: Re: hi fidelity.....and fuel injected dreams...and my favourite Received: 04/06/00 2:57 am From: Rough Trade Shop To: Spectropop! hi, The nick hornby book this is based on is great! and the music WILL appeal...its full of moments that will touch every spectropopper's heart.......there's one great part in the book where a 'wronged wife' wants to sell her husband's record collection for fifty pounds (read the book for more...) and its full of sue originals etc etc... and the narrator of the book is a sometime dj who is ALWAYS Making 'topten' lists.....actually the record shop and its workers are very similar to intoxica in portobello road, but don't tell them i said that...... another book which i've been meaning to recommend is 'fuel injected dreams' by james robert baker. it's absolutely fantastic! it's a kind of wild fictional mystery story that includes pastiched versions of pretty much every apocryphal 'mad producer' story you've every heard..its centred round a fictional girl group as well.........its kinda extreme and beserk but absolutely fantastic (in my opinion and I'm always right of course...hem hem!) My favourite girl group moment is pretty much the whole song 'dead' by caroline o sullivan...especially juxtaposed on the compilation album I found it on which includes paul and paula and the 'peanuts'.....very strange...couldn't believe my ears first time i heard it......... xxxxxxx delia xxxxx p.s. u.k. members look out for my 'actionettes' dance troupe which is an all girl dance troupe which does routines to girl group songs.....we're planning a performance at the may da doo ron rons if chris king lets us!!!!! www.roughtrade.com if you'd like to be sent regular new releases emails let me know ph-0171 792 3490 fax 0171 221 1146 at....130 talbot road , london, wiiija, u.k. --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Subject: BOUNCE: Non-member submission Received: 04/02/00 10:39 pm From: Spectropop: Archive | Bulletin Board To: Spectropop! ========= Start of forwarded message ========= Don't It Make You Feel Good Posted by Jim Gardner on Tue, 04 Apr 2000 09:16:32 This is the most likely place I know of to find an answer to a question I have about an obscure, beloved 45. If it's not appropriate here, or there's a better place for me to ask, please let me know. I acquired a tape of a 45 that has baffled me and I'd like to know more about the record and the group. The song, "Don't It Make You Feel Good," is a snappy pop thing with traditional 60's combo instrumentation: guitar, combo organ, rhythm section. The title line is the hook and there's some nice, two-part harmony on it. There's a nifty organ solo that sounds not unlike one of Leon Russell's Gary Lewis efforts; in fact, the whole thing sounds not unlike G. Lewis' type of material, although the lead singer's much better. Not that I'm suggesting this may, in fact, *be* them. I got the tape from a d.j. who has a white label promo copy of the 45. The only writing on the label is the song title and the word, "Over," which the d.j. took to be the band name, but I figured indicated the B side. (Don't know *which* side "over" was written on.) As in, flip the 45 over. This is probably a hopelessly obscure Midwest, late-60's group (the d.j. was formerly on the air in West Lafayette, Indiana), and the 45 may be self-released by the band for all I know. If this title or anything about the song sounds familiar, please post here or drop me an e-mail. And thanks. (Btw, the Spectropop site rocks!) Jim Gardner --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- End
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