http://www.spectropop.com __________________________________________________________ __________________________________________________________ __________ __________ __________ S P E C T R O P O P __________ __________ __________ __________________________________________________________ Volume #0397 March 24, 2000 __________________________________________________________ Living Stereo Subject: Beach Boys ABC movie Received: 03/24/00 5:03 am From: Frank Youngwerth To: Spectropop! On the second night, during the first scene at Brian and Marilyn's house, just after Van Dyke Parks has wowed Brian with a little Mozart at the piano, one of the throng of house guests walks by the camera, flashing the cover of Ray Conniff's 'S Marvelous LP. Is there some kind of in-joke significance I'm missing here? The producers seem to be pretty careful about record props (e.g. Lawrence Welk's 78 is on Dot), so there must be some reason the Conniff album would appear at Brian's hipster party. Frank Youngwerth --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Subject: Beach Boys convention in London Received: 03/24/00 5:03 am From: Robin Wills To: Spectropop! Hi there There's a Beach Boys convention happening this Sunday (26th) in the London area. It's happening at the Oakfield Tavern, 166 St. James Road, Croydon. I'm not sure of the time, but I will be showing up early in the afternoon. All the best Robin --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Subject: Isn't She Great? Received: 03/24/00 5:03 am From: James F. Cassidy To: Spectropop! Tobias asked: >What can you people tell me about a new movie called >"Isn't She Great"? This is the new biopic of trash novelist Jacqueline Suzanne starring Bette Midler. I haven't seen the movie or heard the music. Jim Cassidy --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Subject: Isn't She Great?-Doesn't It Stink? Received: 03/24/00 5:03 am From: Ponak, David To: Spectropop! I'm one of the biggest Bacharach fans out there, I love the guy, however, it pains me to tell you that the "Isn't She Great" soundtrack is just unlistenable. This isn't the Bacharach of "Painted From Memory," it's sounds more like the work of the man who wrote "On My Own" and "That's What Friends Are For." Wait, I'm giving it too much credit. At least those songs had hooks. DX7 keyboard sounds abound. The whole thing is very 80's MOR. It makes me wonder if some of the great Bacharachisms of "Painted From Memory" may have been created (or at least prompted) by Elvis Costello. --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Subject: Re: Sunset Sound / "Expecting To Fly" Received: 03/24/00 5:03 am From: Jamie LePage To: Spectropop! Michael wrote: > Your "credits" post on Buffalo Springfield lends credence > to my belief that Buffalo Springfield recorded "Expecting > To Fly" at Sunset Sound. Bruce Botnick was the engineer > not only on "Expecting To Fly" but also engineered all 6 > Doors albums-the majority of them at Sunset Sound. The > production of "Expecting To Fly" is very > elaborate-especially listening to in stereo. I have a > feeling that the song was cut on eight tracks. I find this thread so fascinating, at the risk of overkill I would like to comment once again on Michael's post. Bruce Botnick's name on the Expecting to Fly credits do indicate that the side was not cut at Gold Star. To the best of my knowledge, Botnick did not regularly work at Gold Star. It is important to note that Dave Gold custom built Gold Star's board and (at least to a certain extent) an engineer would have to be familiar with Gold's equipment to be able to comfortably work there. Consequently, the studio's in-house engineers are the names we most often associate with Gold Star recordings. Does anyone know of Botnick working at Gold Star? Steve Kurutz writes at AMG: "After landing a gig at L.A.'s Sunset Sound in 1963, Botnick found himself engineering at a time when the West Coast was exploding onto the national consciousness." Can anyone confirm whether or not Botnick was a staff producer for Elektra in the late 60s? Michael again: > The first Doors was recorded around the early fall of > 1966, only on four tracks. When...the Doors returned to > Sunset Sound to do "Strange Days"...the studio was > updated to eight tracks...If "Expecting To Fly" was > recorded at Gold Star with its cramped three or four > tracks, there is no way to creat a powerful stereo > listening experience with so few tracks. All of this makes perfect sense. Does anyone know precisely when Gold Star updated their recording gear from three to four track? I could swear that Stan Ross said the Spector Xmas and Ronettes albums were 4 track masters. Stereo mixes of these recordings typically have rhythm track panned left, lead and BG vocals dead center, and strings or overdubbed instruments panned right. This indicates four track recording, unless lead and BG vocals were on the same track (unlikely). Also, on Spector's "session" tapes we can hear Spector "bouncing" BG vocal overdubs when both final track and lead vocal are already finished. This indicates bouncing from track 3 to 4 and vice versa. I don't see how this could have been accomplished using only three tracks, unless they were bouncing rhythm tracks and lead vocals between two recorders, but somehow this seems doubtful for 1964/5 recordings. I do know, however, that this technique was employed on the 1958 Teddy Bears recordings. On this same topic, can anyone shed light as to exactly when Gold Star updated further to 8, 16 and 24? Was A&M a 24 track facility when Spector cut the Checkmates? Finally, does anyone know if the I&TT album on A&M was mixed in stereo at Gold Star or A&M, and how many tracks were used for these recordings? Thanks for your comments, Michael. The more we learn how the studios developed during the mid-to-late 60s, the more we can understand the evolution of record production during this pivotal time. Jamie n.p. Billy Spradlin's Girlpop @ live365.com - Great!!!!! --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Subject: Girlpop Radio ! Received: 03/24/00 5:03 am From: Jimmy Cresitelli To: Spectropop! Through a series of whatever-I-dids-with-the-computer, I am able to tune into Mr. Spradlin's Girlpop... right now, Darlene is churning up the world with "A Fine, Fine Boy" and... well, what more can possibly be said? "This must be the place..." : ) Jimmy --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- End
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