http://www.spectropop.com __________________________________________________________ __________________________________________________________ __________ __________ __________ S P E C T R O P O P __________ __________ __________ __________________________________________________________ Volume #0393 March 6, 2000 __________________________________________________________ Exclusive Original Television Soundtrack Album __________________________________________________________ Subject: The "flick" Received: 03/03/00 4:30 am From: Carol Kaye To: Spectropop! Well, I'm pretty sure that everyone has seen the BB movie for what it is basically, just Hollywood entertainment. Sounds like they worked hard to get some details correct while taking liberties and sticking stuff in there that was totally wrong.... Brian is totally portrayed like a horrible monster (imo), that's totally out and bizarre...how many more times before they even come close to getting it right with this gentle giant of a genius-man?! Most of that stuff did NOT happen in the studios at all...we tracked everything, he never offered his gold records, never acted like that at all. Brian was a totally competent, wonderful producer, sure he'd get into the music sometimes, like all other producers, he was a fine producer, totally professional Now he's got to repair some of the damage this film did him. A star is always a target. Brian had a sly sense of great humor, put-on humor, and was totally satisfied and happy in the studios, just the opposite of the movie. NO, never saw Murry like that in the studio, don't remember exactly if he was there -- he may have popped in for a moment, but only that, and no never addressed us. Yes we cut always tracks and never with the Beach Boys....and no, I've never been to Brian's house. And Phil Spector? Good lord.....sure he was an entertainer in the studios, totally rapt also with what he was doing, but he was a human-being, not the silly caricature portrayed. The impact of Brian seeing us was pretty good, I thought, but so much else wrong, it's just a moment in there. His portrayal was completely wrong for Brian's true personality...you have to think just the opposite and then you're be more right. Having spent time with my collegues who worked with Brian in the Landy days too, which was the most-horrific time he went through, then hurrah for Brian for coming through that period. I fell down laughing during the "drug den" scene! What will think of next? Tho't those ideas went out with the hippie films of the late 60s, yes and they have to blame a musician for getting Brian on drugs...no-one else uses drugs I guess. Sorry, that's a little sarcastic to say "guess no-one else ever uses drugs"....our group of fine musicians are just sick and tired of drug-use being blamed on musicians. I am sure the actors worked very hard on this movie, and others did too, it's just a shame the way it turned out. Now Brian has to put up with living down this horrible portrayal....thank God the public is getting wise to the motivations in back of this film. For the rest of the public, what started out fairly decent wound up, as a few people told me, not worth even staying up to watch, and they turned off the TV part-way through and went to bed. The pretty actress who played me did a good job I thought, really paid her dues to learn how to play with a pick and act professional (she is a professional bassist). To put a positive viewpoint in here...I tho't the impact of the scene with the musicians in the studio was excellent. They all studied our group and were very serious about "getting it right". The scene at Western even spooked them a little, felt eerie to them to film there, where so many of us recorded for so many years -- these are real musicians called to do the parts. My great respect and compliments to Gary Griffin, the musical conductor on that film as well as to the beautiful actress Tera Hendrickson, a real blues bassist btw but full-time actress, who I heard studied me down to my moves, my clothes etc. What a compliment! And so many worked very hard on that film to make it a serious compliment to that era. Thank God people have the great music and genius of Brian Wilson to listen to, maybe someday they're really get a true picture of the good man in back of it all. Regards, Carol Kaye http://www.carolkaye.com/ --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Subject: Fifth Dimension Reissues Received: 03/05/00 2:35 am From: Ponak, David To: Spectropop! According to ICE, the first 5 Fifth Dimension LPs's (Up, Up And Away, Magic Garden, Stoned Soul Picnic, Portrait, and Age Of Aquarius) are all scheduled to be reissued on CD with bonus tracks by Buddah on April 18. REJOICE! --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Subject: Geronimo leaps Received: 03/05/00 2:35 am From: Ron Bierma To: Spectropop! In a message dated 2/29/00 5:46:42 PM, spectropop writes: << Jack. I agree 100%, although I do not believe that is really a Spector recording, I sure as hell was blown away by the faux wall of sound. I would love to get ahold of that myself!>> And similarly, there were 3 BB segments that I just MUST know the source of...When Nik Venet is viewing the Smile artwork, there is a track that sounds similar to Cool Water, but not enough to peg it. Then Brian is in the studio playing a track with the lyrics "Geronimo leaps and bounds for glory in the dustbowl". (Sounds like mock Smile, eh?) and then they play a background vocal to "Let the Wind Blow" that sounds like a Smile outtake! Very cool! Brian apparently sang the parts of the movie where his actor is sitting at the piano. In My Room sounds like 90s Brian with the choppy end of phrases, but the falsetto is impeccable! Anyone know the genesis of these tracks? EL --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Subject: re: faux Wall of Sound in film (was holy CRAP!!!!) Received: 03/03/00 4:29 am From: Jamie LePage To: Spectropop! Jack Madani wrote: >I'm sittin' here watchin' the Beach Boy movie...when >Brian gets to meet Phil Spector for the first time, and >WHOAH!! What IS that AWESOME instrumental track that the >"wrecking crew" is playing?!?!?!? john rausch replied: >[Although not] really a Spector recording, I sure as hell >was blown away by the faux wall of sound...certain parts >were reminiscent of several Spector classics but yet >ambiguous enough to not be sure. I had a similar feeling watching the Sonny & Cher docudrama a while back. When they show Spector at work in the studio, you seldom hear Spector related music. Instead, it is ambiguous wall-of-sound ambience that alludes to Spector's music. In the case of the S&C flick, it was a rather superficial facsimile. The only Spector-related song used was I Love How You Love Me, which Cher supposedly first recorded for Phil's guide vocal track, but Spector didn't write that particular song. He typically refuses to license his music for use in films which portray him, so it is up to the musical director to simulate the sound; the results vary according to the qualities of the musical director. With the BB flick, I understand Gary Griffin, who produces Jeffrey Foskett's wonderful records, was in charge of the music, and if that is so, I imagine the incidental music was every bit as delightful as Jack and John describe it. With Griffin as MD, and with people like Elliot Kendall involved, you gotta think this was a good project turned bad. The criticism I have seen all seems to point to a recurring theme in the Beach Boys story, two four letter words and one of them is love.... Spector portrayed in other recent film/TV movies... That Tina Turner film had a few scenes with Phil, including that great scene depicting the recording session for River Deep. Yeah, of course the vocal and strings and BG chorus were not recorded simultaneously, and that glass vocal booth smack dab in the middle of the (far larger than Gold Star) room didn't look all that authentic either. Still, the scene was chilling. Thumbs up on this one. One From the Heart. You remember this one from a year or so ago where a Carole King type character ends up meeting and marrying a suicide destined Brian Wilson type character. Can't recall anything specific but the Don Kirschner-type character is the spitting image of Phil. I know a lot of people didn't like this film but I did. It isn't often that we have the chance to hear retro-sounding modern music that isn't tongue-in-cheek and all that. It's very rare, if you think about it. The big disappointment there was the pseudo Beach Boys recordings which sounded like '97, not '67. tilley5 wrote: > any plans on releasing The Wrecking Crew's outakes? > Something like what The Beach Boys did with Pet > Sounds. It would be awesome to listen to. A subject often discussed here. ABKCO distributes Spector's recordings, and ABKCO is apparently content with the state of its catalog, including early Rolling Stones, Phil Spector and Cameo-Parkway. Many have expressed the opinion that the catalogs should be reworked for new reissues. Don't hold your breath, though. (An aside: I hear new Cameo-Parkway boots are in the works, anyone know about these?) The good news is that there are unofficial Spector tapes in circulation among collectors that are similar to those of the Pet Sounds Sessions. Instrumental takes, false starts, overdub tracking dates, etc. Spector is far more animated than Brian Wilson is on his session tapes. It is pretty funny sometimes, and always very interesting. Jamie --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Subject: Spector doc. Received: 03/03/00 4:29 am From: john rausch To: Spectropop! I received this message from Raechel Donahue who is in charge of production for the Spector doc. that was postponed on TLC: >John -- Unfortunately, we didn't get Phil's final approval >before the airdate, so we couldn't run the show. Now, we're >just waiting to re schedule. Sounds like Mr. Spector is still up to his old tricks! John Rausch --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- End
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