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Spectropop V#0375

  • From: The Spectropop Group
  • Date: 01/22/00

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       Volume #0375                        January 22, 2000   
                      Banned by Rock Critics                  
    Subject:     Madness
    Received:    01/22/00 8:22 am
    From:        Jimmy Cresitelli
    To:          Spectropop!
    Working officially in the mental health field as I do, I 
    see your point: the most creative geniuses do all seem to 
    have a touch of "madness." It's almost a given. It's those
    people who so desperately try to conform to what they 
    perceive as "normalcy" that are the Stepford clones of 
    this world; no burning creativity to be found there... 
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    Subject:     Re: madness and genius
    Received:    01/22/00 8:22 am
    From:        Gary Spector
    To:          Spectropop!
    To: x delia xx and Jake Tassell
    I do not know how much information I can add on the 
    subjects of music or "mad" people, but when people sort of 
    lump them together with Phil Spector, sometimes I like 
    to leave a comment.
    I have no obligation to defend Phil, but in his defense 
    (not that he needs any), he was a shy kid who grew up with 
    a skill that panned out and got him were he is now.
    What happens when a skilled kid enters the music business 
    but does not like a lot of attention. Throw in the 
    articles in mass media speculating about his life because 
    he does not like to talk publicly about himself, then 
    add a few Gold and Platinum albums and more speculation. 
    What could he do but disappear a few times.
    The music industry is like the acting industry. Catch 22. 
    You have a skill and get noticed which is what most want 
    but then you lose your private life and you want to get 
    away. Asking a great actor to stop acting would be like 
    asking Phil Spector to stop producing just because he does
    not like crowds. That could be why he disbanded Teddy Bears
    in the late 50's.
    In the 70's he had a family that cared about him and 
    wanted him to be part of their lives. Being reclusive 
    helped a little, but he still had the stress of wanting to
    produce great music for everyone (but without the 
    lime-light). That's tough for anyone with a skill that 
    entertains people.
    I'll admit Phil Spector was a little odd but he was a good
    friend to the people closest to him. He was hurt when 
    Lennon died as well as when Elvis passed away, but who 
    could he go to or hang out with. He was famous and people 
    recognized him. He was not a people person and probably 
    still is not. He is doing a lot better with his family and
    he shows in his own way that he cares.
    Comments about him don't bother me much but sometimes I 
    just like to try and help others see him from another side
    to all the stories.
    I will always love my father, flaws and all, but I am not 
    blind to the truth.
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    Subject:     Cher & Philip
    Received:    01/22/00 8:22 am
    From:        Ian Chapman
    To:          Spectropop!
    Hi everybody,
    Been meaning to post this for a while......just before 
    Christmas, about the same time as the Tina Turner birthday
    TV special, the UK arts programme "The South Bank Show" had
    an hour-long Cher special, comprising of an interview with 
    the show's presenter Melvyn Bragg, plus lots of archive 
    music and movie clips, plus interviews with various other 
    Cher-connectees. It was an excellent documentary, and as 
    with the Tina special, I thought Spectropoppers might be 
    interested in the Spector bit....
    Bragg: Then you went to work with Philip Spector. Was that
    through Sonny?
    Cher: Yeah, I was just hanging out with Son, and one night
    Darlene didn't show up, and Philip looked at me, and he was
    getting really cranky, y'know.....Philip was not one to be 
    kept waiting.....and he said "Sonny said you can sing?" 
    And so, as I was trying to qualify what I felt my.....
    expertise was, he said, "Look, I just need noise - get out
    Bragg: So you started as noise?!
    Cher: Yeah, I started as noise, and that was "Be My Baby".
    Bragg: Oh, wonderful....I mean, with the Ronettes. To 
    start as noise with the Ronettes, that's not bad, if 
    you're going to start as noise!
    Cher: (smiling) Right, and I ended up as noise - except at
    that point I was no longer noise - but the last song I did 
    for Philip was "You've Lost That Lovin 'Feelin'".
    (There then followed a clip of the song with some archive 
    stills of Cher and Sonny in Goldstar)
    Bragg: Didn't you do a song about "Ringo, I Love You"?
    Cher: Yeah, that was my first.
    Bragg: What was the name he gave you?
    Cher: Bonnie Jo Mason. Philip thought that all girl acts 
    should have very American names, and so...... But the 
    radios wouldn't play it, 'cos they said it sounded like a 
    guy singing "Ringo I love you".....and so, that wasn't 
    Bragg: So it sounded like a gay love song?
    Cher: Yes.
    (We then saw a close-up of the Bonnie Jo Mason record - 
    promo copy too! - and heard it as it accompanied some 
    predictable Beatles archive footage)
    If this prog ever airs in the States (maybe it has 
    already?), I'd highly recommend it.
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    Subject:     Darlene question
    Received:    01/20/00 5:33 am
    From:        Marc Miller
    To:          Spectropop!
    In the Spector documentary that was shown on PBS, there's 
    a clip of Darlene, with Phil, singing:
    "Every evenin'when the sun goes down..
    I lay my head upon the pillow down..."
    (or something similar).
    What song is this???
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    Subject:     Phil Spector
    Received:    01/22/00 8:22 am
    From:        Doc Rock
    To:          Spectropop!
    From "Liberty Records"
    Phil Spector
    1962 was the year producer Phil Spector started his 
    Philles Record label. However, he got irritated with his 
    partners back east, so when Snuff Garrett offered Spector 
    a position as a producer for Liberty, he readily accepted.
    He kept the job for half a year, and popular press says 
    that he produced less than a half dozen tracks for Liberty. 
    One release which he did generate in the summer of '62 
    was "How Many Nights (How Many Days)" by Bobby Sheen. It 
    was a good record but failed to hit.
    It is interesting to note that the flip side of the Bobby 
    Sheen 45 was not a Spector production. Spector had little 
    use for non-hit sides, like his throwaway instrumental 
    flip sides. However, Spector must have liked Bobby Sheen. 
    A year later, teamed up with Darlene Love and Fanita James
    of the Blossoms, Phil would make him the Bobby of an artist
    dubbed "Bob B. Soxx and the Blue Jeans" on Phil's record 
    label ("Zip-A-Dee-Do-Dah," Philles Records).
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    Subject:     He's a Soul Mann; Barry Mann & all-stars on new LP
    Received:    01/22/00 8:22 am
    From:        Jamie LePage
    To:          Spectropop!
    On January 11, 2000 Atlantic Records announced the January
    18 release of "Soul and Inspiration," the Atlantic debut 
    album from Brill Building veteran Barry Mann.
    Barry Mann was hired to compose as a staff songwriter at 
    Aldon Music at the end of the 50s. He met Cynthia Weil 
    while working for Aldon, apparently at a songwriting 
    session. The two young writers fell into a professional and 
    private relationship. The couple soon married; Songwriting 
    husband/wife teams like King/Goffin and Barry/Greenwich 
    seemed to flourish in the Brill Building. 
    Much of the music was written by Mann while Weil furnished
    the lyrics. Together they wrote a great number of hits 
    including "Uptown," "He's Sure the Boy I Love," "Blame It 
    On the Bossa Nova," "Only In America," "On Broadway," 
    "Walking In the Rain," and "We Gotta Get Out of This 
    Place." Their songs often dealt with poverty and the 
    struggle for success, like on the Crystals' "Uptown." Mann
    & Weil moved to Los Angeles in the late 60s. The hits 
    continued through the '70s. and Barry got a solo deal with
    RCA. As far as I know, Barry and Cynthia are still married 
    and living in Los Angeles.
    The new Atlantic release sees Barry Mann performing eleven
    of the most treasured tunes from the Mann/Weil catalog. 
    Among the reported highpoints is Mann's duet with Carole 
    King on "You've Lost That Lovin' Feeling," co-written with
    Weil and Phil Spector. This song was recently declared by 
    performance rights organization BMI as the 20th century's 
    most-played song on American radio and television.
    Sounds great so far...
    "Soul and Inspiration" features guest performances by 
    Bryan Adams, Daryl Hall, Richard Marx, Deana Carter, J. D.
    Souther, Brenda Russell, Peabo Bryson, Paul Shaffer, etc., 
    and the album is produced by Fred Mollin, who apparently 
    did Kris Kristofferson's "Austin Sessions" and Jimmy 
    Webb's "Ten Easy Pieces."
    Has anyone heard this yet? Opinions? Great songs, modern 
    recording, contemporary guest artists...kinda scary. 
    On a related subject, Tapestry may have been the cause or 
    effect, but for whatever reason several Brill writers made
    contemporary "singer/songwriter" albums in the 70's, 
    including Greenwich's "Let it be Written..." album. Anyone
    have thoughts on this Greenwich album and the 70's Barry 
    Mann solo discs?
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    Subject:     Butterflys=Blue Angels
    Received:    01/20/00 5:21 am
    From:        Ian Chapman
    To:          Spectropop!
    > Yes, it's a reissue of the Goodies record with a
    > fictitious group name slapped on the label, something to
    > do with evading the issue of rights to the track, I
    > believe. Same thing happened with the Ribbons' "Ain't
    > Gonna Kiss Ya" - originally on Marshall Leib's Marsh label,
    > it later turned up on Charger as by the Sandpapers.
    > Strange are the ways of the record biz.....
    Further to the Goodies/Southern Belles thing, there was 
    another one I meant to mention .....the Butterflys "I 
    Wonder" was later reissued on SSS International as by the 
    Blue Angels. 
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    Subject:     Mystery Trends
    Received:    01/22/00 8:22 am
    From:        Nat Kone
    To:          Spectropop!
    Throughout all the years of my exotica/ lounge/ easy 
    listening/ crime jazz/ spy jazz/ Now Sound obsessions, I 
    managed to almost completely avoid CD reissues and 
    compilations. But this soft pop thing seems to be changing
    that to some degree. To that end, let me ask you about an 
    interesting looking CD I saw today. The Mystery Trend. 
    Great name. Would have be even cooler if the title of the 
    record was "She ain't selling any alibis" but you can't 
    have everything. The description on the back referenced 
    Bacharach but it also mentioned garage rock. I don't want 
    it if it's garage. Any comments? 
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    Subject:     Essential list: thanks!
    Received:    01/22/00 8:22 am
    From:        Levin Lo
    To:          Spectropop!
    Dear David,
    Thanks a lot! Your list is most valuable...especially the 
    original album list! The good news for me is these albums 
    are available on CD; the bad news is most of them are 
    pressed in Japan, meaning you have to pay the almighty yen
    for it. Guess I'll have to search Thoughtscape for them.
    I'm new to Spectropop, and the members here remind me of 
    Truffaut's Fahrenheit 451, especially when this gorgeous 
    music is banned by rock critics who know only one album: 
    Sgt Pepper's.
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    Subject:     Peppermint Rainbow Mystery
    Received:    01/22/00 8:21 am
    From:        Paul Urbahns
    To:          Spectropop!
    I have the same Peppermint Rainbow album others have 
    mentioned owning, seems I am in good company on this list.
    The mystery for me is that my copy lists the songs on the 
    album cover in the following order for side one: Will You 
    Be Staying After Sunday If We Can Make It To Monday And 
    I'll be There Run Like The Devil Jamais Don't Wake Me Up 
    In The Morning Michael.
    On the record label and as the record actually plays, the 
    second song does not appear, and was replaced by their 
    first single "Pink Lemonade." I am wondering if I have a 
    "revised issue" Does anybody on the list have the Pepermint
    Rainbow disk containing "If We Can Make It To Monday" seems
    like it would have been planned as the obvious followup, to
    Will You be Staying After Sunday? For Lemon Piper fans the 
    photo on the back of the Peppermint Rainbow album (DL 
    75129) shows Ivan browne, Bill Albaugh and RG Nave (of the
    Lemon Pipers) standing with two unknown females as the 
    Paul Urbahns
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    Subject:     Happy Balloon
    Received:    01/22/00 8:21 am
    From:        Nat Kone
    To:          Spectropop!
    I just got a (review) copy of a newish Siesta compilation 
    "Sombrero" and the band whose softpoppy sound impressed me
    the most, The Happy Balloon, are nowhere to be found on the
    Siesta website. I mean, they cover "Come Saturday Morning" 
    for crying out loud. How could I not be interested in 'em?
    So anyone know anything about my potentially new favourite 
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