http://www.spectropop.com _____________________________________________________________________ ________________ _______________ ________________ _______________ ________________ S P E C T R O P O P _______________ ________________ _______________ ________________ _______________ _____________________________________________________________________ Volume #0373 January 19, 2000 _____________________________________________________________________ Tapping the biggest undeveloped field in the automatic music business Subject: Women In Music Awards Received: 01/18/00 8:14 am From: Carol Kaye To: Spectropop List I have to share something with you. There is a full-page ad in Billboard about our Women In Music Touchstone Awards, on Feb. 1st luncheon at the Marriott Marquis Hotel in NYC, and I shared this with many of my colleagues and friends. Billy Strange, super composer, wonderful friend and great guitarist (solo on Beach Boys Surfin' USA, his own big hit of "Goldfinger" etc.) wrote something back. Mind you Billy is no slouch at arranging either: Tenn. Ernie Ford, Elvis Presley, Nancy Sinatra's greatest hits, so many other dates, and played on some of Phil Spectors dates too....he arranged the "Baby The Rain Must Fall" and this is what he said in his message: >>>>Dear Carol, I couldn't be more pleased for your upcoming honor if it was being bestowed on me. You are REALLY deserving of this award. And the finest electric bass player in the entire world. Not to mention your great jazz guitar work. I can't tell you what a pleasure it has always been to record with you in my rhythm section, knowing that your fantastic feel would permeate and drive the entire orchestra to strive to do their finest work. Thanks again my dear friend. Your Boss, Billy Strange ------------------------------------------- The full-page Billboard ad is the 1/22 issue, pg. 23, and lists the women who are getting the award besides myself: Odetta, Monica Lynch, Mary Jo Mennella, Barbara Skydel and posthumously, Marie St. Louis. I am honored to be with such great women. Carol Kaye http://www.carolkaye.com/ --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Subject: essential listening - soft pop Received: 01/19/00 2:07 am From: Levin Lo To: Spectropop List All of this talk about soft pop and sunshine pop fuels my curiosity to no end. Could somebody kindly create an essential listening list for these genres, with regards to compact disc releases? I'd really appreciate it. levin lo --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Subject: Little Anthony Received: 01/18/00 8:14 am From: Kingsley Abbott To: Spectropop List Jimmy B queried the inclusion of Little Anthony within Sunshine Pop - I would have done too! However, if you can, give it a listen. "I'm Hypnotised" was a November 1967 issue on Veep 1278. The song was co-written, and probably produced by Teddy Randazzo, and really does work as sunshine pop. It got a release in England in 1998 on an EMI 25 track budget compilation (72434 95486 2 6) imaginatively called "25 Greatest Hits". It includes things from "Tears on my Pillow" thru all the fine big soul/pop ballads to this other little gem. Following on the "What do we call it debate?", it seems that we're saying that Sunshine Pop was the US 60s Ba ba stuff, and that Soft Rock takes a wider definition both before and after that. I'm happy with that! Hello to Bobby Lloyd after a long while - Still got the gas money???!!! Kingsley Abbott --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Subject: the Pillsbury Doughboy in that Nehru Received: 01/18/00 8:14 am From: DJ JimmyB To: Spectropop List In a message dated 1/17/0 5:18:59 AM, you wrote: >But as usual, the labels certainly jumped on the > (ill-fated)
bandwagon. How? By trying to sell >what was essentially adult contemporary pop music dressed >up in Nehru collars and love beads. Splitting yet more hairs, isn't the sound you refer to actually the "Now" Sound where old-timers try to put a snappy "rock 'n' roll" beat to standards and contemporary MOR tunes? I think of Bob Thiele on the cover of a late 6T's ABC LP (the title of which escapes me at the moment) where his photo graces the cover dressed in a Nehru jacket singing and playing on songs like "Jet Me To 'Frisco". And Bob--at the time well over 30 and NOT on a low fat diet-- looks like the Pillsbury doughboy in that Nehru ...Jimmy Botticelli/Poppin' Fresh --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Subject: Hey! Ba-Ba (Reebob) Received: 01/18/00 8:14 am From: Jamie LePage To: Spectropop List jake tassell wrote: >I actually like a lot of Ba-ba-ba-da Generation type discs >(I'm also a very big fan of 'Hey Hey Hey!' records too - >never heard a bad one, but that's another mood and genre... How do you feel about 'oi oi oi' records? Never heard a bad one, but then again never heard one period. What is oi? Nevermind. Better left for the neo-punk rocker list. ;-) >Not sure if the 'Phil'-umentary is going to be shown in >the UK. Either way, let's hope it's not yet another one >where they round up anyone who ever crossed swords with >the guy and then waste one hour and thirty minutes pouring >bile, acid and sewage over his career, his methods, his >marriage, his character and his records in his eternally >conspicuous absence (these arguments always miraculously >vapourise when they have to play the records though!)... Yes, I know what you mean! That documentary you refer to with Rodney Bingenheimer was made a long time ago, though. Since then, Spector has become even more guarded. He rarely licenses his music for synch use at all, especially when the subject of the visual element is biographical. If you saw the Sonny & Cher U.S. TV docu-drama a while back, you may have noticed that every time they showed Spector in studio scenes, they didn't use Spector-related music; The only exception being I Love How You Love Me (which in the drama Cher sang as Spector's "stand in" guide vocalist before her own record debut). Of course, Spector didn't co-write that one, so he was powerless to stop its use (at that time anyway!). >Also how the *@%£**@ did Enya creep into all this???!!! Sort of the same way Cher did! Jamie n.p. Kites are Fun - The Best of Free Design (Varese Sarabande) --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Subject: Re: Phil and Enya Received: 01/18/00 8:14 am From: Chuck Limmer To: Spectropop List Buffalo Bill sez: << And as for whoever it was who put Phil Spector and Enya (I mean, ENYA!?!?!?!) in the same sentence....jeeeez!! Just don't ever do it again, or I will have to inform a couple of my friends in the poor side of town that some legs need to broken, ok? >> Tobias: This is excerpted from Tim White's 11/25/95 interview with Enya in Billboard: "Since 1982, her collaborators... have been producer Nicky Ryan and his lyricist wife, Roma, who met Enya in 1979 when Ryan was managing Clannad... 'It was Nicky who asked me to join Clannad,' says Enya... 'I loved Nicky's wonderful concepts of the layering of vocals, and Roma had wonderful stories from Irish mythology... my background was in classical music. Yet Nicky's influences were totally different! He was a fan of Phil Spector and the Beach Boys... ' " Y'know what? It's all music, after all. Chuck Limmer n.p. Nik Kershaw, _15 Minutes_ --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Subject: the world we now seek Received: 01/18/00 8:14 am From: DJ JimmyB To: Spectropop List In a message dated 1/17/0 5:18:59 AM, you wrote: >It is almost as if The Rolling Stones, so called >power trios and amphetamines never existed. I think that's the world we now seek...let's face it, electrified rock 'n' roll really has been dead a long time, and the curtain is finally being lifted...My .02... Jimmy Botticelli --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Subject: Re: Green Tambourine Received: 01/19/00 2:07 am From: Doc Rock To: Spectropop List In my home town of Lawrence, KS, there was a drive in restaurant called the Thunderbird. I hung out there in 61- 66. We played the heck out of that juke box. Then I went off to college. I came back later and had a cherry Dr Pepper in my old booth. While I was sitting there with my Dr Pepper, some kids came in and put a quarter in the juke box. The first song they played (3 for a quarter) was "Green Tambourine. I felt so sorry for them. They had no idea the cool records we had played on that machine earlier in the decade, when they were in grade school! --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Subject: Rock Softly, Darling... Received: 01/18/00 8:14 am From: Keith D'Arcy To: Spectropop List Hi All, Here we go... Nat Kone wrote: >>I tend to go for the darker, moodier, slightly sad soft >>rockers, and here are a few monsters: > >I'm not sure what you mean by this distinction but with >the exception of a couple of big names, this was a huge >list of artists I had never heard of: Basically, there is a trend to some soft pop and rock that has a decidedly melancholy edge, kind of like the concept of "deep soul," which is so absolutely linked to a listener's reaction to the songs. I believe that there's "deep soft rock." The reason people often discount soft pop lock stock and barrel is because it's seen as soulless stuff, but listen carefully to the Bergen White LP or to some of those beautiful Mark Lindsay solo records and you'll hopefully see what I'm getting at. That's the trick, finding passion in all things, whether it's evident in the record or if it's inspired from within. >Harmony Grass is a great sunshine pop name. Same with >Sounds of Feeling. Just a thought; the Sounds of Feeling record is way to the left of sunshine pop. It's kinda freakout vocal jazz with some gorgeous pop moments. The Third Wave LP, anyone? Jamie Le Page wrote: >>"Move with the Dawn" by Mark Eric > >Is this from the "Midsummer's Day Dream" album on Uni's >Revue label? Yes, and what an LP! About 60% killer, 40% filler... which is about the best you can expect from most soft pop LPs. There's another one on it called "Just Passing By" which is much more directly a sunshine pop track, and is stunningly catchy. There's a great photo of Mark Eric on the back of the LP and he's the ultimate tanned, square jawed, dirty blonde California surfer dude-looking fellow. Coulda been a contender. >>"Sun" by Margo Guryan Margo Guryan is an absolutely lovely person as well as a super pop songwriter. She wrote "Sunday Morning" for Spanky and Our Gang, then showed them up with her own wonderful version on her sole LP on Bell, "Take a Picture," produced by one of those unsung genius producers we love, John Hill. Seriously, the arrangements on this LP are lush, intricate and occasionally (like on the song "Love") very bizarre. Imagine a West Coast Pop Art Experimental Band freak out blending perfectly with the gentlest melodic pop song, and you're halfway there. Margo wrote for lots of people in the mid to late 60's, like the Lennon Sisters, Harry Belafonte, Marie Laforet (great French vocal version of "Sunday Morning"), The Walter Raim Concept, Mama Cass, Claudine Longet... there's a bunch more. She now teaches jazz piano in southern California. Here's a bit of sunshine pop platinum: the b-side to Margo's single of "Sunday Morning" is a track called "Spanky and Our Gang" which if you can find, will completely flip your mind. >>"That's Alright (I Don't Mind It)" by Alzo > >I've not heard this either, is this from the 1970 Bob >Dorough produced LP on Ampex? Yes, and what a lovely record, slightly country feel but with the sweetest production. I'd like to find out more about Bob Dorough's production work. I love his jazz vocal LPs. There's also some earlier singles and an LP by Alzo and Udine that are kind of the intersection between soft rock and free soul (slightly Stevie Wonder-ish grooves with harmony vox). >>"There is Now" by Euphoria > >Is this from the Jerry Ross produced album on Heritage? Yes, a nice folky but epic (I mean that in the same sense that the Enya track probably is: surging, growing swells of drama as it progresses) like Nina Simone's version of "Pirate Jenny." One last thought: anyone out there really familiar with Gary McFarland's productions? That Wendy and Bonnie LP is such inspired stuff, so gentle and yet so deep and full of quirks. Over, Keith --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Subject: Re: Dum Dum Ditty Received: 01/19/00 3:17 am From: Ron Buono To: Spectropop List Hello All- Recently saw discussion over the song "The Dum Dum Ditty" by the Shangs/Goodees. I have a copy of this same song on the Amazon label by a group called The Southern Belles. Anyone else familiar with this one? Thanks, Ron Buono --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- End
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