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Spectropop V#0373

  • From: The Spectropop Group
  • Date: 01/18/00

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       Volume #0373                                   January 19, 2000   
    Tapping the biggest undeveloped field in the automatic music business
    Subject:     Women In Music Awards
    Received:    01/18/00 8:14 am
    From:        Carol Kaye
    To:          Spectropop List
    I have to share something with you. There is a full-page 
    ad in Billboard about our Women In Music Touchstone Awards, 
    on Feb. 1st luncheon at the Marriott Marquis Hotel in 
    NYC, and I shared this with many of my colleagues and 
    Billy Strange, super composer, wonderful friend and great 
    guitarist (solo on Beach Boys Surfin' USA, his own big hit
    of "Goldfinger" etc.) wrote something back. Mind you Billy 
    is no slouch at arranging either: Tenn. Ernie Ford, Elvis 
    Presley, Nancy Sinatra's greatest hits, so many other 
    dates, and played on some of Phil Spectors dates too....he
    arranged the "Baby The Rain Must Fall" and this is what he 
    said in his message: 
    >>>>Dear Carol,
    I couldn't be more pleased for your upcoming honor if it 
    was being bestowed on me.
    You are REALLY deserving of this award. And the finest 
    electric bass player in the entire world. Not to mention 
    your great jazz guitar work.
    I can't tell you what a pleasure it has always been to 
    record with you in my rhythm section, knowing that your 
    fantastic feel would permeate and drive the entire 
    orchestra to strive to do their finest work.
    Thanks again my dear friend. 
    Your Boss,
    Billy Strange
    The full-page Billboard ad is the 1/22 issue, pg. 23, and 
    lists the women who are getting the award besides myself: 
    Odetta, Monica Lynch, Mary Jo Mennella, Barbara Skydel and
    posthumously, Marie St. Louis. I am honored to be with such 
    great women. 
    Carol Kaye
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    Subject:     essential listening - soft pop
    Received:    01/19/00 2:07 am
    From:        Levin Lo
    To:          Spectropop List
    All of this talk about soft pop and sunshine pop fuels my 
    curiosity to no end. Could somebody kindly create an 
    essential listening list for these genres, with regards to
    compact disc releases? I'd really appreciate it.
    levin lo
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    Subject:     Little Anthony
    Received:    01/18/00 8:14 am
    From:        Kingsley Abbott
    To:          Spectropop List
    Jimmy B queried the inclusion of Little Anthony within 
    Sunshine Pop - I would have done too! However, if you can,
    give it a listen. "I'm Hypnotised" was a November 1967 
    issue on Veep 1278. The song was co-written, and probably 
    produced by Teddy Randazzo, and really does work as 
    sunshine pop. It got a release in England in 1998 on an 
    EMI 25 track budget compilation (72434 95486 2 6) 
    imaginatively called "25 Greatest Hits". It includes 
    things from "Tears on my Pillow" thru all the fine big 
    soul/pop ballads to this other little gem.
    Following on the "What do we call it debate?", it seems 
    that we're saying that Sunshine Pop was the US 60s Ba ba 
    stuff, and that Soft Rock takes a wider definition both 
    before and after that. I'm happy with that! 
    Hello to Bobby Lloyd after a long while - Still got the 
    gas money???!!!
    Kingsley Abbott
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    Subject:     the Pillsbury Doughboy in that Nehru
    Received:    01/18/00 8:14 am
    From:        DJ JimmyB
    To:          Spectropop List
    In a message dated 1/17/0 5:18:59 AM, you wrote:
    >But as usual, the labels certainly jumped on the 
    > (ill-fated)  bandwagon. How? By trying to sell
    >what was essentially adult contemporary pop music dressed 
    >up in Nehru collars and love beads.
    Splitting yet more hairs, isn't the sound you refer to 
    actually the "Now" Sound where old-timers try to put a 
    snappy "rock 'n' roll" beat to standards and contemporary 
    MOR tunes? I think of Bob Thiele on the cover of a late 
    6T's ABC LP (the title of which escapes me at the moment) 
    where his photo graces the cover dressed in a Nehru jacket
    singing and playing on songs like "Jet Me To 'Frisco". And 
    Bob--at the time well over 30 and NOT on a low fat diet--
    looks like the Pillsbury doughboy in that Nehru 
    ...Jimmy Botticelli/Poppin' Fresh
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    Subject:     Hey! Ba-Ba (Reebob)
    Received:    01/18/00 8:14 am
    From:        Jamie LePage
    To:          Spectropop List
    jake tassell wrote:
    >I actually like a lot of Ba-ba-ba-da Generation type discs 
    >(I'm also a very big fan of 'Hey Hey Hey!' records too -
    >never heard a bad one, but that's another mood and genre...
    How do you feel about 'oi oi oi' records? Never heard a bad 
    one, but then again never heard one period. What is oi? 
    Nevermind. Better left for the neo-punk rocker list. ;-)
    >Not sure if the 'Phil'-umentary is going to be shown in 
    >the UK. Either way, let's hope it's not yet another one 
    >where they round up anyone who ever crossed swords with 
    >the guy and then waste one hour and thirty minutes pouring
    >bile, acid and sewage over his career, his methods, his 
    >marriage, his character and his records in his eternally 
    >conspicuous absence (these arguments always miraculously 
    >vapourise when they have to play the records though!)...
    Yes, I know what you mean! That documentary you refer to 
    with Rodney Bingenheimer was made a long time ago, though.
    Since then, Spector has become even more guarded. He rarely
    licenses his music for synch use at all, especially when 
    the subject of the visual element is biographical. If you 
    saw the Sonny & Cher U.S. TV docu-drama a while back, you 
    may have noticed that every time they showed Spector in 
    studio scenes, they didn't use Spector-related music; The 
    only exception being I Love How You Love Me (which in the 
    drama Cher sang as Spector's "stand in" guide vocalist 
    before her own record debut). Of course, Spector didn't 
    co-write that one, so he was powerless to stop its use (at
    that time anyway!).
    >Also how the *@%**@ did Enya creep into all this???!!!
    Sort of the same way Cher did!
    n.p. Kites are Fun - The Best of Free Design (Varese Sarabande)
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    Subject:     Re: Phil and Enya
    Received:    01/18/00 8:14 am
    From:        Chuck Limmer
    To:          Spectropop List
    Buffalo Bill sez:
    << And as for whoever it was who put Phil Spector and Enya (I
     mean, ENYA!?!?!?!) in the same sentence....jeeeez!! Just 
     don't ever do it again, or I will have to inform a couple 
     of my friends in the poor side of town that some legs need
     to broken, ok?  >>
    This is excerpted from Tim White's 11/25/95 interview with
    Enya in Billboard:
    "Since 1982, her collaborators... have been producer Nicky
    Ryan and his lyricist wife, Roma, who met Enya in 1979 when
    Ryan was managing Clannad... 'It was Nicky who asked me to 
    join Clannad,' says Enya... 'I loved Nicky's wonderful 
    concepts of the layering of vocals, and Roma had wonderful
    stories from Irish mythology... my background was in 
    classical music. Yet Nicky's influences were totally 
    different! He was a fan of Phil Spector and the Beach 
    Boys... ' "
    Y'know what? It's all music, after all.
    Chuck Limmer
    n.p. Nik Kershaw, _15 Minutes_
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    Subject:     the world we now seek
    Received:    01/18/00 8:14 am
    From:        DJ JimmyB
    To:          Spectropop List
    In a message dated 1/17/0 5:18:59 AM, you wrote:
    >It is almost as if The Rolling Stones, so called 
    >power trios and amphetamines never existed.
    I think that's the world we now seek...let's face it, 
    electrified rock 'n' roll really has been dead a long time, 
    and the curtain is finally being lifted...My .02...
    Jimmy Botticelli
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    Subject:     Re: Green Tambourine
    Received:    01/19/00 2:07 am
    From:        Doc Rock
    To:          Spectropop List
    In my home town of Lawrence, KS, there was a drive in 
    restaurant called the Thunderbird. I hung out there in 61-
    66. We played the heck out of that juke box.
    Then I went off to college.
    I came back later and had a cherry Dr Pepper in my old 
    booth. While I was sitting there with my Dr Pepper, some 
    kids came in and put a quarter in the juke box. The first 
    song they played (3 for a quarter) was "Green Tambourine. 
    I felt so sorry for them. They had no idea the cool 
    records we had played on that machine earlier in the 
    decade, when they were in grade school! 
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    Subject:     Rock Softly, Darling...
    Received:    01/18/00 8:14 am
    From:        Keith D'Arcy
    To:          Spectropop List
    Hi All,
    Here we go...
    Nat Kone wrote:
    >>I tend to go for the darker, moodier, slightly sad soft
    >>rockers, and here are a few monsters:
    >I'm not sure what you mean by this distinction but with
    >the exception of a couple of big names, this was a huge
    >list of artists I had never heard of:
    Basically, there is a trend to some soft pop and rock that
    has a decidedly melancholy edge, kind of like the concept 
    of "deep soul," which is so absolutely linked to a 
    listener's reaction to the songs. I believe that there's 
    "deep soft rock." The reason people often discount soft pop
    lock stock and barrel is because it's seen as soulless 
    stuff, but listen carefully to the Bergen White LP or to 
    some of those beautiful Mark Lindsay solo records and 
    you'll hopefully see what I'm getting at. That's the trick, 
    finding passion in all things, whether it's evident in 
    the record or if it's inspired from within.
    >Harmony Grass is a great sunshine pop name.  Same with
    >Sounds of Feeling.
    Just a thought; the Sounds of Feeling record is way to the
    left of sunshine pop. It's kinda freakout vocal jazz with 
    some gorgeous pop moments. The Third Wave LP, anyone?
    Jamie Le Page wrote:
    >>"Move with the Dawn" by Mark Eric
    >Is this from the "Midsummer's Day Dream" album on Uni's
    >Revue label?
    Yes, and what an LP! About 60% killer, 40% filler... which
    is about the best you can expect from most soft pop LPs. 
    There's another one on it called "Just Passing By" which 
    is much more directly a sunshine pop track, and is 
    stunningly catchy. There's a great photo of Mark Eric on 
    the back of the LP and he's the ultimate tanned, square 
    jawed, dirty blonde California surfer dude-looking fellow.
    Coulda been a contender.
    >>"Sun" by Margo Guryan
    Margo Guryan is an absolutely lovely person as well as a 
    super pop songwriter. She wrote "Sunday Morning" for 
    Spanky and Our Gang, then showed them up with her own 
    wonderful version on her sole LP on Bell, "Take a Picture," 
    produced by one of those unsung genius producers we love, 
    John Hill. Seriously, the arrangements on this LP are 
    lush, intricate and occasionally (like on the song "Love")
    very bizarre. Imagine a West Coast Pop Art Experimental 
    Band freak out blending perfectly with the gentlest 
    melodic pop song, and you're halfway there. Margo wrote 
    for lots of people in the mid to late 60's, like the 
    Lennon Sisters, Harry Belafonte, Marie Laforet (great 
    French vocal version of "Sunday Morning"), The Walter Raim
    Concept, Mama Cass, Claudine Longet... there's a bunch more. 
    She now teaches jazz piano in southern California. 
    Here's a bit of sunshine pop platinum: the b-side to 
    Margo's single of "Sunday Morning" is a track called 
    "Spanky and Our Gang" which if you can find, will 
    completely flip your mind.
    >>"That's Alright (I Don't Mind It)" by Alzo
    >I've not heard this either, is this from the 1970 Bob
    >Dorough produced LP on Ampex?
    Yes, and what a lovely record, slightly country feel but 
    with the sweetest production. I'd like to find out more 
    about Bob Dorough's production work. I love his jazz vocal
    LPs. There's also some earlier singles and an LP by Alzo 
    and Udine that are kind of the intersection between soft 
    rock and free soul (slightly Stevie Wonder-ish grooves 
    with harmony vox). 
    >>"There is Now" by Euphoria
    >Is this from the Jerry Ross produced album on Heritage?
    Yes, a nice folky but epic (I mean that in the same sense 
    that the Enya track probably is: surging, growing swells 
    of drama as it progresses) like Nina Simone's version of 
    "Pirate Jenny."
    One last thought: anyone out there really familiar with 
    Gary McFarland's productions? That Wendy and Bonnie LP is 
    such inspired stuff, so gentle and yet so deep and full of
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    Subject:     Re: Dum Dum Ditty
    Received:    01/19/00 3:17 am
    From:        Ron Buono
    To:          Spectropop List
    Hello All-
    Recently saw discussion over the song "The Dum Dum Ditty" 
    by the Shangs/Goodees. I have a copy of this same song on 
    the Amazon label by a group called The Southern Belles. 
    Anyone else familiar with this one?
    Ron Buono
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