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  • Date: 01/09/00

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       Volume #0367                         January 9, 2000   
                   Serendipity and synchronicity              
    Subject:     BOUNCE Non-member submi
    Received:    01/09/00 12:12 am
    From:        Spectropop Admin, 
    To:          Spectropop List, 
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    Subject:     Re: This is NARAS!  re: Spector 2000 Trustee Award
    From:        Eric
    Dear Spectropop:
    Thank you for your confirmation and the extension of my 
    request for Phil Spector material for the NARAS Trustee 
    I'd like to clarify one point so that potential 
    contributors will not be scared off. The Lifetime 
    Acheivement / Trustee / Technical Awards ceremony is a 
    live presentation which is held as part of at the annual 
    GRAMMY Nominees reception held the night before the GRAMMY
    Awards, Tuesday, February 22. This event is a non-broadcast
    event where a 3-4 minute compilation of the honorees' 
    accomplishments will be shown. Copyright control of 
    materials is *NOT* required for material to be included in 
    this compilation. 
    The 42nd annual GRAMMY Awards will be telecast on the CBS 
    Television Network (8-11 PM ET/PT) on Wednesday, February 
    23, 2000 from STAPLES Center in Los Angeles. During this 
    broadcast a 15-30 compilation of the Lifetime Achievement 
    and Trustee Award honorees will be shown on air. Anything 
    we show on air will have to have been cleared with the 
    copyright owners prior to the broadcast. Normal on air 
    material is chosen that is relatively easy to clear. 
    Please assure your members that we understand that as 
    collectors most material they own is copyrighted material 
    -- unless its something like a candid photo they shot 
    themselves, a record company publicity photo, or some sort
    of record store promotion display. We can still use it for 
    the live event.
    If you have additional questions regarding copyright 
    please contact me.
    Thanks again very much for your kind support of our 
    tribute to Phil Spector.
    Eric Jerstad
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    Subject:     lucy in london
    Received:    01/08/00 10:28 pm
    From:        john rausch
    To:          Spectropop List 
    To Rein Smilde:
    Phil Spector sings the title song Lucy In London, not the 
    Ronettes. A very uptempo number with the whole wall of 
    sound. Also I would like to know who does the other 
    recordings: "Rockin' around the christmas tree", "Jingle 
    bell rock", "Let it snow, let it snow" that you mention on
    the "Christmas Wall Of Sound: A tribute to Phil Spector" CD?
    John Rausch
    Phil Spector`s Wall Of Sound at
    Presenting The Fabulous Ronettes at
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    Subject:     Outrageous Cherry
    Received:    01/09/00 12:32 pm
    From:        David Feldman
    To:          Spectropop List
    Bryan Thomas said:
    > "Phil Spector is reportedly considering a return to the 
    > studio. It seems the producer heard Outrageous Cherry (a 
    > Detroit fuzz-thing with Brian Wilson melodies), on the 
    > radio, and announced his intentions to Kim Fowley with the
    > immortal words, 'These guys are f&#$ing great.'"
    Funny you should mention this. I believe it was Stewart 
    Mason who recommended the O.C. album based on an advance 
    copy. I tried to buy it from an online shop a couple of 
    times with no success, but I finally received a copy, 
    which lay unopened until about two weeks ago. 
    Along with the Stevie Wonder box set, it has been #1 on my
    CD changer ever since. The album is terrific. It's the kind
    of craftsmanship in modern pop that I crave.
    And right as I type this, I hear the strains of the 
    opening piano solo of Stevie's "Ribbon in the Sky" on a 
    videotape of "Now & Again," the new Glen Caron Smith show 
    on CBS. I've been obsessed with the song and particularly 
    the piano intro, and whaddya know? Serendipity and 
    Dave Feldman
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    Subject:     Sumpreme Lineup
    Received:    01/09/00 12:32 pm
    From:        Claudia 
    To:          Spectropop List
    Regarding William Stos' question as to what we think of 
    the Supremes reuniting for a t.v. spectacular (one time 
    only), I feel that it would be great to see it, I would 
    certainly tune in. But the Supremes, to me, were always 
    Flo, Mary and Diane....Cindy Birdsong, although talented, 
    to me was always part of Patti LaBelle and the Bluebells 
    ("I Sold my Heart to the Junk Man") and not a Supreme. Jean
    Tyrell, Linda Lawrence and Sherry Payne were NEVER in the 
    same league as the original lineup. The name, the Supremes, 
    should have been retired when Florence died.
    In Mary Wilson's book on the group, she mentions that Flo 
    was the genuinely "talented one"...Her voice was 
    reminiscent of the old time gospel singers...Flo got her 
    practice singing in a church choir before joining the 
    group. Mary says Flo's suprano voice was so powerful that 
    when the group recorded they would place Flo about 15 feet
    away from the other girls so she wouldn't overpower Diane's
    lead. It was tragic, according to Wilson's book, that all 
    Flo got to do with the Supremes was sing, "ooh, baby, baby, 
    baby" behind Diana Ross.
    There are some album cuts out there of Flo singing solo 
    which I'd love to get my hands on. Mary lamented Flo's 
    fate, (an early death), utterly despondent over Diana 
    Ross's star treatment at the hands of lover, Berry Gordy 
    and fed up with promises by Gordy to let Mary and Flo sing
    lead vocals on other recordings, (not just Ms. Ross), which
    never happened.
     Of course, Flo died of her alcoholism - (probably more 
    than likely of a broken heart), living on welfare, always 
    looking for that big comeback and never getting it. All 
    that remained of her fortune was the Cadillac which she 
    and her husband drove around Detroit. She was down to 
    earth and salty, always adored her fans and would stand 
    and chat with them while Diane did a slow burn, telling 
    Flo not to mingle with the peasants (fans) .... It was an 
    interesting read ("Dream Girls" by Mary Wilson).
    So, I would tune in to see how the "Supremes" look today 
    but it would be bittersweet without Florence Ballard 
    singing with them....even if all we heard was her "ooh, 
    baby, baby" in the background.. As I always say, Dobie 
    Gray was right when he sang in the "In Crowd" ("...the 
    originals are still the greatest") 
    "Paul McCartney? Oh, he's a very nice fellow, once you 
    get to know him."
    Ringo, 1964
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    Subject:     French music
    Received:    01/08/00 10:28 pm
    From:        Marie J. Leclerc
    To:          Spectropop List 
    Dear Spectropop, 
    I have been reading with great interest the discussion on 
    French Pop music. My English writing isn't the best, but I
    would like to add something. 
    If you were to ask me who is the best French writer and 
    artist, I would say Gainsbourg, hands down. To explain the
    way he plays with words, his poetry is very hard, it's 
    something you just feel. I have always thought he could be
    compared to Brian Wilson as a genius composer. I would also
    like to mention Charles Aznavour. I'm not sure if we can 
    call him Pop, maybe not, but then again, his work is of 
    great quality and sensibility. As a Quebecer, I have 
    listened to my share of copycat artists singing the US and
    UK hits. Five years ago, I would have laughed at those 
    versions, all in French, but as I am getting older, I find
    humor in it and appreciation of the music/instrumentation 
    that differ. I am thinking of Tony Roman version of 
    Manfred Mann hit, Les Baronets which featured Rene Angelil
    (Celine Dion husband/manager) and their many versions of 
    Beatles hits. It was a nice and refreshing moment to hear 
    a version of The Beach Boys Fun Fun Fun the other day, but
    all in French, from a Montreal 60's group.
    My older brother used to be a big success in our small 
    town playing guitar with a group that attracted a crowd 
    each Saturday night with a version of The House of the 
    Rising Sun. They renamed it Les portes du Penitencier, 
    right from the Johnny Haliday version. They couldn't have 
    sung the Animals words, since nobody in the band spoke one
    word of English. Either you translated the song to French 
    or you sang it phonetically, which meant they would often 
    sing songs while having no clue what the words were about. 
    What I mean to say is, I now see this music as an asset, a
    different way to hear a song. Thanks for reading. 
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    Subject:     "Da Doo Ron Ron" - the epitome of silliness?
    Received:    01/09/00 6:26 pm
    From:        Frank
    To:          Spectropop List
    Lindsay Martin wrote
    >Jake Tassell approvingly mentions French writer/producer/
    >singer Serge Gainsbourg and his work with Francoise Hardy,
    >Jane Birkin and others.
    >Hardy's "Comment Te Dire Adieu", has a spoken refrain 
    >which is one of the most sexy and heartbreaking things 
    >I've heard on a pop record. And take a look at the lyrics,
    >by Gainsbourg (go to 
    Being French I'd tend to agree with you, Lindsay, but what
    you write stresses a point : French artists always tend to 
    emphasize lyrics as opposed to the generally "production 
    centered" works of American pop. As far as I can remember 
    there has never been any worthwile equivalent of a song 
    like "Da Doo Ron Ron" for instance. This song is even 
    regarded in France as the epitome of silliness. Most of 
    our singers failing to recognise the the greatness of the 
    production (not to mention the singer!). I'm afraid there
    was definitely no French artist to even come near the magic
    of what US and then British producers and singers gave us. 
    Again, this is not to say that we had no great artists 
    over here, I already mentioned Gainsbourg and Trenet and 
    many many more but they all dwelved in a kind of music 
    that was and is entirely different.
    >Tommy Steele never really sounds 
    >convincing to me as a rocker, but you don't need to make 
    >any excuses for Johnny Kidd & The Pirates' "Shakin' All 
    >Over". (And check out "The Cruel Sea", a surf-instrumental 
    >masterpiece by Britain's Dakotas, of Billy J. Kramer fame!) 
    Quite true "Shakin All Over" is definitely a classic. And 
    the same definitely goes for "Friday on My Mind". 
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    Subject:     BOUNCE Non-member submi
    Received:    01/09/00 12:12 am
    From:        Spectropop Admin 
    To:          Spectropop List 
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    Subject:     The early 60s works of Curtis Mayfield
    Curtis Mayfield didn't get mass recognition early on as 
    did the Motown stars, and because he is so strongly 
    recognized for his Superfly-era work, his contribution
    to the seminal R&B music of the 60s is often overlooked. 
    Born in Chicago on June 3, 1942, as a child Mayfield 
    taught himself to play guitar. Mayfield began his musical 
    career with a school band called the Alphatones, where he 
    began developing his trademark tenor voice. In 1956, he,
    Jerry Butler, Arthur and Richard Brooks, and Sam Gooden 
    formed a new group, The Roosters. In 1958, The Roosters 
    were renamed The Impressions and had a big hit with "For 
    Your Precious Love," Lead vocalist Jerry Butler started a 
    solo career, but Mayfield kept the Impressions together. 
    He was a very good guitarist, too, and his weaving, Latino
    guitar phrases characterized many of his early recordings, 
    including "Gypsy Woman," an amazingly compassionate and 
    sensitive record. Although it was unusual for soul 
    performers in the early 60s to write their own material, 
    Mayfield wrote and sang some of the finest soul music of 
    the 60s. "Gypsy Woman," "People Get Ready," "It's All 
    Right," "People Get Ready," "He Will Break Your Heart," 
    "Keep On Pushing," and "Find Yourself Another Girl" are all
    essential listening to anyone even vaguely interested in 
    60s soul.
    As a songwriter and a producer, Mayfield's work epitomized
    the Chicago sound that rivaled the Motor City. He was the 
    driving force in Chicago, not only through his work with 
    the Impressions, but also through his writing and 
    producing Gene Chandler, Jerry Butler and Major Lance. At 
    the time, perhaps the only other soul artist doing this 
    much production work was Smokey Robinson. 
    While the majority of contemporary black soul material 
    focused on love songs and the latest dance crazes, 
    Mayfield was stretching the limits. He was perhaps the 
    very first soul singer to write about African-American 
    pride and community struggle in his songs, a concept 
    followed by R&B, funk and rap artists ever since.
    He was inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame twice,
    first with his gospel-soul group, the Impressions in 1991. 
    He was inducted again in 1999 for his solo career, which 
    began in 1970 after he left the Impressions.
    Mayfield died on Sunday, December 26, 1999. He was 57.
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    Subject:     Le Dernier Mot Sur Le Pop Francais 
    Received:    01/09/00 11:20 pm
    From:        jake tassell
    To:          Spectropop List
    Dear Spectropop
    Thanks very much to Frank and Lindsay for their thoughtful
    and informative responses to my French Pop prompt. For 
    those wanting a suitable footnote to this discussion, I 
    just found one on this URL:-
    Regarding Serge Gainsbourg; The Anglo-tongued 
    unenlightened would do well to check out:-
    for a witty biog in English of 'L'Homme a Tete de Chou'. 
    Unfortunately for the more 'sauvage' of Spectropoppers, 
    the Gainsbourg site with a WAV of 'The Whitney Houston 
    Incident' does not yet exist.
    Potential fans of contemporary Francopop (it's been big in
    England - don't know where else) could do worse than check 
    out 'Moon Safari' by Versailles band: Air - in my opinion 
    one of the best pop albums of the last five years, their 
    'proper' follow-up is scheduled for Autumn, imminent is 
    their soundtrack to the film 'The Virgin Suicides'. Air 
    stuff at:-
                Jake Tassell 
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