__________________________________________________________ __________ __________ __________ __________ __________ S P E C T R O P O P __________ __________ __________ __________________________________________________________ Volume #0363 January 1, 2000 __________________________________________________________ A lifetime of pure listening enjoymentSubject: Happy Holidays from a Spector Received: 12/28/99 9:18 am From: Spxxxxxm.com To: Spectropop List, spectxxxxxities.com Hello All. I would like to wish all the Fans of Phil Spector a wonderful Holiday Season. I have enjoyed all the kind words about him and even the inside stories about Gold Star Studios (which I have seen only 3 times as a kid with my other brothers). I am sure Phil Spector will be enjoying another Christmas birthday again this year. I will wish him my best on 25 Dec, 1999 as I am sure all of the Fans reading this do as well. I know I will be listening to his Christmas CD this Year. Here's to PS2K. Happy Holiday's from, G. P. Spector --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Subject: Doowop and Spectropoppers Received: 12/28/99 9:18 am From: David Feldman, fexxxxxnderables.com To: Spectropop List, spectxxxxxities.com While watching the PBS two-hour plus doowop special for the second time, it occurred to me that there has been remarkably little discussion of doowop on this list. In some ways, doowop is the antithesis of Spector and Brill Building stuff -- it shares the emotion but often lacks the superimposition of production and technical prowess that emerged with the session folk on both coasts (and in Detroit and Memphis). I have a feeling this is why there is so little discussion of R&B harmony music on Spectropop. Personally, I love doowop. Just a couple of observations: 1. Doowop is usually considered to be "fifties music," yet the quality of the music did not degenerate in the early 60s. It might seem like it was a decade between the Flamingo's "I Only Have Eyes For You" and Shimmy Shimmy Ko Ko Bob," but it was less than a year. Tons of great doowop songs were released in the early 60s. 2. Has there been any genre within R&B in which white singers worked with such distinction? Doowop is perceived as black music, yet relatively early on, in groups like the Crests and Del-Vikings, racially mixed groups were not unknown, and audiences were often well-integrated, too. Groups like The Capris (whose vocal chops are totally intact today), the Regents, Skyliners, Brooklyn Bridge, the Belmonts (with or without Dion), Passions, and the Duprees are just a few of the white groups who were still around in the 60s (in some cases, they *started* recording in the 60s) who made great contributions. [On the pledge breaks on the NYC PBS station, the Capris sang an acapella version of "Morse Code of Love" that rocked the joint.] 3. I have a distinct preference for emotional popular music. While Spector could "make the phonebook sound good," I actually think he was very song-dependent. When a song was weak, his Wall of Sound somehow sounds hollow, incapable of bolstering the weak emotional content. That's one reason why doowop sounds so vital and fresh to me. Stripped of extraneous production and instrumentation, the sincerity and beauty of the singers shine through, and when they grab hold of a transcendent song, be it "A Sunday Kind of Love" (still my favorite song title ever), "Since I Don't Have You," or "Daddy's Home," my reaction is primal and overwhelming. Dave Feldman RIP: Curtis Mayfield Song of the Week: "I'm So Proud" (Impressions) Board Game of the Month: Malarky Best Gender Survey on the Net: More than 40 new questions at http://www.imponderables.com --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Subject: King of the plinky Triangle Received: 12/30/99 4:49 pm From: Jack Madani, Jack_Mxxxxxk12.nj.us To: Spectropop List, spectxxxxxities.com Boy, it actually does pay to read liner notes. I finally put the pieces together to come up with a new name that we may have to discuss here at greater length. Claus Ogerman. I think that some months ago his moniker was briefly bounced around on the list here, but if memory serves it was little more than a name-check. But I just bought myself a groovy little Polydor disc called "Connie Francis: RockSides (1957-1964)" and there are some swingin' Brill Building tunes on the latter half of the cd that really caught my attention. First of all, the two Connie songs that are on the Mercury Girl Group Anthology came from this RockSides disc, but in this different context they suddenly reveal their secrets like that episode of Star Trek on the Native American Planet where Kirk totally by accident triggers the Meteor Laser gizmo which hits him on the head and he gets amnesia and becomes Kurok the Shaman--and maybe I'm getting off the track here. Hmm. I'll l start over. What I think I finally discovered is the whole NYC Brill Building version of the LA/Wrecking Crew/Gold Star axis. Hey, there's even a bunch of jazz musicians listed in the session credits: Bucky Pizzarelli, Milt Hinton, George Duvivier, Doc Severinsen, Urbie Green, among others. And instead of Gold Star or Western, the NY studio with magic in the walls would be A&R. Would this be a correct assessment? As for Claus Ogerman, he's be like the East Coast version of Jack Nitzsche (cripes! why can't I remember how to spell his name?). Only, in Ogerman's case his trademark sound would be those steady eighth-note triangle plinks, the mixed-chorus background singers singin' staccato "yeah yeah's," fairly prominent use of harpsichord in the rhythm section, and the xylophone/marimba accents at the end of each line in the second verse. Think Lesley Gore's It's My Party or Judy's Turn To Cry, and you get what I'm after. Heck, I finally go read the liner notes on Lesley Gore's Mercury anthology and there I see Herr Ogerman's name all the heck over her recordings. Well, on Connie Francis's RockSides disc there are two Ogerman-arranged cuts that have those signature sounds all over them as well: Whatever Happened To Rosemarie, and My Best Friend Barbara. A third tune, No Better Off, also has the sound, although the liner notes don't say who arranged it (there's an oblique reference to NBO being recorded at the same session as "Don't Ever Leave Me," and the arranger for the DELM is listed as Artie Butler, but until someone else can confirm or deny, I'm still holding out for Claus as being the guy responsible for the sound of NBO). Oh hey, here's another thing that seems to be an Ogerman trait: the slow non-rhythmic opening intro, followed by an explosive drum blat and then the song properly springs to life. Like Lesley Gore's version of The Old Crowd, whose beginning has exactly the same orchestral palette as Connie's My Best Friend Barbara. On the other hand, that slow-opening trick COULD have been a Carole King thing, since she wrote The Old Crowd, and Carole did the same slow-opening thing on her own recording of It Might As Well Rain Until September. Hmm. Little help here, someone? But those other sound traits seem really to belong to Ogerman, so much so that I'm going to go out on a limb and guess that he was responsible for the orchestration of Neil Sedaka's I'm Livin' Right Next Door To An Angel. And maybe Betty Everett's Shoop Shoop song as well? Okay, so now I'm just guessing wildly. But I'm serious about the Sedaka tune. Can anyone provide an answer? Back to the Connie Francis disc. There's some great tracks on it, with contributions from Greenwich and Barry both musical and vocal (on top of which, Ellie also adds some written material to the booklet), as well as a track with backing vocals by the Tokens. There are also recordings of Sedaka/Greenfield songs, Pomus/Shuman songs, and even a couple terrific Countrypolitan tracks recorded in Nashville and overseen by Bill Justis that have that killer real clear bass sound that's doubled by a distorted electric guitar, so that you not only hear the note but also get this crystal-clear plectrum hit on the string coming through. Jamie can perhaps shed light on what I'm trying to describe here. Connie Francis's voice may have been clear on the other side of town from Mary Weiss's [Shangri-Las] pipes, but with that Brill Building machinery surrounding her she could do a purty fair cop of girlgroup. So, Claus Ogerman. Eventually ended up scoring the very best of AC Jobim's Verve albums, as well as the Reprise collaboration disc between Jobim and Sinatra. Finally turned to "serious" music, as I have a 1988 disc of symphonic music composed and conducted by Claus "Ogermann." The notes on this classical disc make absolutely no reference at all to Ogerman's life in the pop music biz. Any more to this story? ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Jack Madani - Princeton Day School, The Great Road, Princeton, NJ 08540 Jack_Mxxxxxk12.nj.us "You knew the job was dangerous when you took it, Fred." --Henry Cabot Henhouse III ------------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Subject: Re: King/Goffin compilations Received: 12/28/99 9:18 am From: Ed Rothstein, eroxxxxx.net To: Spectropop List, spectxxxxxities.com Jamie LePage wrote: > > Heavy Blinker Jason got a few answers about King/Goffin > compilations, but I just wanted to throw in the fantastic > Carole King Masterpiece Volumes 1, 02 , 03 on A-Side. These > are mostly mastered from vinyl, but they are wonderful > collections. > > For track listings, go to > http://www2.gol.com/users/davidr/aside/ > > The A-Side discog is definitely worth checking out. Jamie, Where can you buy these titles? They look great! ed rothstein --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Subject: BMI Top 100 Songs Received: 12/28/99 9:18 am From: James F. Cassidy, casswxxxxxhlink.net To: Spectropop List, spectxxxxxities.com I wonder what the winner would be of the "most played *record* of the century"? Looking down the list of most played songs, some obviously benefitted from multiple versions and multiple hits: "Lovin' Feelin'": 2 (Righteous Bros. and [blechh!] Hall & Oates) "Never My Love": 2 (Association and [5th Dimension? Marilyn McCoo solo?]) "Yesterday": 1 hit by The Beatles but a million cover versions "Stand By Me": I think this hit twice, both by Ben E. King, and many covers "Can't Take My Eyes Off of You": 2 (Frankie Valli, Lettermen) and many covers "Dock of the Bay": 1 (Otis) "Mrs. Robinson": 2 or 3 (S&G, Lemonheads, even Sinatra) and many covers "Baby I Need Your Loving": 2 (4 Tops, Johnny Rivers) "Rhythm of the Rain": 2 (Cascades, Dan Fogelberg) "Georgia on My Mind": At least 2 (Brother Ray and [gag!] Michael Bolton) and a million covers. Am I wrong or was "Dock of the Bay" the only one at the top with only 1 hit version and very few covers? Happy New Year to all! Jim Cassidy --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Subject: Ronnie Spector Received: 12/28/99 9:18 am From: john rausch,xxxxx.net To: Spectropop List, spectxxxxxities.com Here`s a new article/interview with Ronnie Spextor at http://www.theavclub.com/avclub3534/avfeature3534.html John Rausch Presenting The fabulous Ronettes featuring Ronnie Spexxxxxp://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Studio/2469/ --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Subject: She Trinity Received: 12/31/99 12:18 am From: Scott Swanson, swxxxxxa.rdrop.com To: Spectropop List, spectxxxxxities.com Does anyone out there have any recordings by the obscure British girl-group called She Trinity? If so, please get in touch with me. Thanks, Scott (swxxxxxa.rdrop.com) --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Subject: from CK Received: 12/29/99 3:48 pm From: Carol Kaye, caroxxxxxhlink.net To: Spectropop List, spectxxxxxities.com From Brad Elliott: >I appreciate your sensitivity... The Musicians' Union Federation will be getting in touch with you -- no-one is to post contracts on the web at all. They almost took legal action against one and he quickly took the contract off the url. Our contracts are not in books either - but 2 of them were purloined out of the Union and found their way on bootlegs one time which shocked us all. I've also notified Billy Strange. Russ Wapensky is doing very meticulous work to work out all the wrong entries in some of the Musicians' Union contract, such as some of the Beach Boys contracts, Phil Spector contracts etc. Many things that are wrong sometimes gets on those contracts. Russ is the only one to have interviewed all of us, arrangers, studio musicians, producers, background singers, copyists, just 100s of interviews....his book will be the only book that is well-researched from so many people involved in our sessions. The Union doesn't allow anyone access like what Russ has... they've had too many contracts stolen and missing... there's so many who obsessed with this kind of thing. No, I didn't have a good afternoon. BTW our Pension records have always been totally off-limits except to Russ and much can be re-constituted from them if need be. Just heard from my daughter that data will start to be collected from Terra middle of Jan. http://terra.nasa.gov/EVENTS/terralaunchstatus.html Carol Kaye http://www.carolkaye.com/ --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Subject: Re: Dancer Prancer and Nervous Received: 12/29/99 1:01 am From: WASE RADIO,xxxxxt.org To: Spectropop List, spectxxxxxities.com Hi Ian: I have the Dancer Prancer and Nervous song on a compact disc of novelty Christmas songs on Priority. Even though the song is considered a novelty, it actually has a nice tune. I have no way of slowing the compact disc down to hear whether or not they sound like the Lettermen or the Four Preps. Speaking of that situation, if you played the 45 of the Murmaids' "Popsicles and Icicles" at 33 speed, they sound like the Beach Boys. I kid you not!! Well any way to all Spectropppers, a happy and :):):):):):):):):):) millenium. Happy Listening Michael G. Marvin WASE radio --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Subject: Fave Christmas Track? Received: 12/28/99 9:18 am From: Jimmy Cresitelli, Jimxxxxxcom To: Spectropop List, spectxxxxxities.com Hi Ian! In response to your wondering, my favorite Christmas cut has to be the Crystals' "Santa Claus Is Coming to Town." When La La Brooks begins her thunderous assault with that quiet "Jimmy...," I get chills. : ) The entire production leaves me breathless. It blows away any other versions I've heard. To me, this is what rock and roll is all about: volume; super-sonic rhythm; and a million voices raised in song. Can't believe I've been playing that original Spector LP since I bought it (new) back in 1970 for $5.00... now THAT was a Christrmas gift for ME! --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Subject: Holiday Hits Received: 12/28/99 9:18 am From: john rausch,xxxxx.net To: Spectropop List, spectxxxxxities.com In reply to Ian`s Christmas tracks post: Darlene Love`s "Christmas Baby Please Come Home" has got to be the grandaddy of them all without a doubt. Did anyone see her performance on Letterman? I heard it was over the top this year. And Darlene`s "Nobody Ought To Be Alone At Christmas" is truly a phenomonal track for a new generation. Also on my playlist this year is Ronnie Spector and Darlene Love`s cover/duet of "Rockin Around The Christmas Tree". New from last year but kind of got lost already is Ronnie Spector and Eddie Money doing "Everybody Loves Christmas". Also enjoyable are the Roy Wood/Wizzard songs Ian mentioned. Great Spector sound. A few other faves this year (although not really holiday songs but still are fun) are Pixies Three`s Cold Cold Winter and Connie Francis` I`m Gonna Be Warm This Winter. John Rausch Phil Spector`s Wall Of Soundat http://members.tripod.com/~rauschj/ --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Subject: Trackin' Christmas songs Received: 12/28/99 9:18 am From: Jamie LePage, le_pagxxxxxities.com To: Spectropop List, spectxxxxxities.com Ian Chapman wrote: >I was wondering which Christmas tracks Spectropoppers have >been playing for their own enjoyment lately... "Wonder Christmas" by Japanese femme pop star Chocolat. On her new NeoSITE (Japan) EP "Fargo". For all the right reasons, highly recommended to everyone and especially fans of Rag Dolls and Diane Renay. It doesn't often get much better than this. I only wish she sang in English. Drifters' "White Christmas". Ever notice that Spector copped the ending of this for Darlene's version? Regardless of what musical styles happen to be in vogue at the time, the popularity of secular holiday songs lives on. In the 70s and 80s many Christmas records were "novelty" one-shot records, but a growing number of contemporary artists are making new recordings of holiday classics (often mixed with one or two originals). The Wilsons' Christmas album is quite good, with more than a few nods to Mr. Spector. Even Hanson's "Snowed In" album has merit, including covers of "Christmas (Baby Please Come Home)" and "Little Saint Nick". Solid A&R on both of these records; despite the slick modern sound, there is quite a bit everyone can appreciate. As far as Christmas *songs* go, I wanted to mention "Let It Snow, Let It Snow, Let It Snow" as a personal fave. I adore the lyric to this Christmas standard. "Little Drummer Boy" and "Do You Hear What I Hear" are wonderful too. And of course, "The Christmas Song" (Chestnuts roasting...) has to be on everyone's list. I spent a quiet Christmas with three generations at the dinner table, and holiday recordings from Bing Crosby to the Chipmunks to 98 Degrees. Nearly everyone is familiar with them. The holiday standards: They play an important part in bringing people together at this time of the year. Enjoy the rest of the holiday season, everyone. Jamie --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Subject: Christmas Top Ten Received: 12/28/99 9:18 am From: John Hesterman, Zacxxxxxoffice.worldnet.att.net To: Spectropop List, spectxxxxxities.com Greetings All :) Ian Chapman wrote . . . "I was wondering which Christmas tracks Spectropoppers have been playing for their own enjoyment lately....." Here's my holiday Top Ten in no particular order: Father Christmas - The Kinks The Holy & Ivy - Laurence Juber Christmas Time Is Here Again - Ringo Starr Child Of Winter - The Beach Boys Nuttin' For Christmas - The Fontaine Sisters White Christmas - Charlie Spivak & Jimmy Saunders (a very old oldie) Merry Christmas Darling - The Carpenters Christmas Auld Lang Syne - Bobby Darin Green Christmas - Stan Freeberg Oh Holy Night - Montavani I know this is a rather eclectic mix, but Christmas spans a lot of time and facilitates a lot of styles :) Happy Holidays All! John H. A Grape :) Also an Offbeat :) With a TRACE of music in there somewhere! --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Subject: GREAT CD Received: 12/31/99 12:36 pm From: JAMESxxxxxcom To: spectxxxxxe.com THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE SPECTOR CD AND RIVER DEEP MOUNTAIN HIGH! ELECRIFYING! FANTASTIC! IT IS GREAT! THE SOUND IS SUPERB! HAVE A GREAT NEW YEAR --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Subject: HAPPY NEW YEAR Received: 12/30/99 1:04 pm From: Daniel Rozic, daniel.xxxxxel.hr To: Spectropop List, spectxxxxxities.com Hi, everyone To all members: Happy New Year Daniel from Croatia daniel.xxxxxel.hr --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- End
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