__________________________________________________________ __________ __________ __________ __________ __________ S P E C T R O P O P __________ __________ __________ __________________________________________________________ Volume #0350 November 26, 1999 __________________________________________________________ A Long Playing Dynagroove RecordingSubject: Announcement Received: 11/26/99 1:59 am From: Carol Kaye, caroxxxxxhlink.net To: Spectropop List, spectxxxxxities.com After the beautiful time of backing Brian Wilson at his wonderful Lifetime Achievement Awards event, I have to share this with you all, so non-plussed about all this: Just rec'd the following in the mail, you could have bowled me over with a feather, must be dreaming: "It is with heartfelt pleasure that "Women In Music" invites you to be honored at their Fourth Annual Touchstone Awards Benefit Luncheon in New York City. In recognition of your outstanding dedication, exemplary career achievments and admirable personal and professional qualitites, it is our honor to further distinguish ou as a woman who has made a difference. etc.etc." When I first started working at 9 years old, it was fun to earn money to help my mom (she had me late in life, and both musician-parents split up then) and then later on when I took some months of lessons, started playing gigs and teaching at 14...that was another biggie - music was a positive force in my life and could take care of my responsibilities with music. The choice between continuing playing fine jazz or going into studio work in 1958 was another biggie, kids came first....wise choice. And then when I tho't I'd never get over the injuries of 1976, a 2nd surgery to put me on the road of feeling great again, so at almost 65, am back playing jazz....this is such an honor, you can't believe. I have so much to be grateful for. Happy Thanksgiving everyone. Carol Kaye http://www.carolkaye.com/ PS. BTW, my new book (27th tutor item) is now out: "Jazz Improv For Bass" and in the words of one purchaser "wow... had everything I needed here", being well-received.... another grateful thing. Hope you ALL have a HAPPY THANKSGIVING!! --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Subject: Paul Williams????? Received: 11/26/99 1:59 am From: Ian Chapman, iaxxxxx.net To: Spectropop List, spectxxxxxities.com Hi everybody, Can anyone help me solve a mystery that has been bugging me for several years? In '74 over here in the UK, Lynsey De Paul had a hit with a very Spectoresque retro girl-group song called "Ooh I Do". At the time, I recall turning on the radio halfway through a very similar-sounding song by a male singer. Not so Spectorish, but the tune was very similar indeed. The deejay then made a comparison with the Lynsey De Paul track and even said it almost constituted a rip-off, although he didn't know which song came first. I've never been able to find out what that other song was, although I seem to recall Paul Williams' name being mentioned. I know there are some PW afficionados on the list......anybody got any clues, or is this mystery going to follow me to the grave?!! Ian --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Subject: Rare Phil Spector albums Received: 11/26/99 1:59 am From: GORDON HOSIE, hosixxxxxin.net To: Spectropop List, spectxxxxxities.com Could somebody tell me where I can get the rarer Phil Spector albums shown on this site? http://www.geocities.com/Tokyo/7666/framesetspector1.html I'm referring to "Phil Spector Masterpiece" Vols 1 to 3. I want these pretty badly. Somebody out there must know where I can get them. If you do, let me know. Gordon Hosie hosixxxxxin.net --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Subject: Re: Stea Phillips, A&R, United/Western Received: 11/26/99 1:59 am From: WASE RADIO,xxxxxt.org To: Spectropop List, spectxxxxxities.com Billy G. Spradlin: Stea Phillips studios was located in the Hotel Victoria in NYC. The early Four Seasons stuff like Sherry and Big Girls Don't Cry sounds like it was only recorded on three tracks. For example "Sherry" has the back track on the left channel, lead vocal in the center, and background vocals on the right. I don't think they recorded all of their major hits at Stea Phillips. I read somewhere they recorded "Rag Doll" at an unknown demo studio. Their later hits like "C'Mon Marianne" were cut on four tracks. In 1968, they did a very interesting cover version of the Shirelles' "Will You Still Love Me Tomorrow?"-and the production is so elaborate that it sounds like it was cut on eight tracks. Yes A&R was a great studio-used by Dionne Warwick-but also was used by Lesley Gore, Peter,Paul and Mary,but also used by Billy Joel, and even the Muppets (!). Unfortunatedly that studio closed down around 1985. I thought that the United/Western studios was changed to Ocean Way in the early 1980s. But Cello? That's a new name. Thanks Michael G. Marvin WASE radio --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Subject: Phil Spector Received: 11/26/99 1:59 am From: Spxxxxxm.com To: Spectropop List, spectxxxxxities.com To: Jamiee. I wish I could help you out with info on him as a producer, but I have only seen him in Gold Star Studios 3 times and had a great time watching him. As a person, he was very generous to his close friends and as a Father he tried to provide. He is doing a lot better now. I did not care much for the book by Mark Ribowsky "He's a Rebel", in fact his own Mother (Bertha) hated it and the Author. The author even had 2 spelling for Louis (the other Twin). For a decent book on what he was like in the Studio, check out Ronnie Spectors book "Be My Baby". Not all the family stuff is completly true since I know where the info came from. If you want info on him as a person, let me know. just ask the questions and I will answer what I can. SPECTRE spxxxxxm.com --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Subject: Brill and Phil Spector 101 Received: 11/26/99 1:59 am From: WASE RADIO,xxxxxt.org To: Spectropop List, spectxxxxxities.com To Jaimee: The Brill Building was an eleven story edifice in midtown Manhattan. During the early 1960s the building rang with the incessant sound of voices and pianos. Songwriters such as Barry Mann and Cynthia Weil, Carole King and Gerry Goffin, Neil Sedaka and Howie Greenfield, Jeff Barry and Ellie Greenwich composed such classics as "Will You Still Love Me Tomorrow?" for the Shirelles, "Breakin' Up Is Hard To Do", a number one hit for Neil Sedaka, and "You've Lost That Lovin' Feeling", the Righteous Bros chart topper from 1965. The songs were the most tuneful rock and roll songs, making free use of simple fifth chords, maybe with a small subtle jazz tinge. Most of the songs that emerged from the Brill Building were recorded in studios within a ten block radius of all those songwriting cubicles. The ones that Phil Spector co-wrote and produced were recorded at Mirasound studios in New York. He later did most of his major run of hits at Gold Star Studios in Los Angeles. Phil was a New Yorker by birth, but moved to Los Angeles as a child after his father's suicide. His father's gravestone inspired Phil's first hit song "To Know Him Is To Love Him" recorded by his group The Teddy Bears at Gold Star in the late spring of 1958. The song topped the charts around Christmas that same year. Later he returned to New York and worked with Jerry Lieber and Mike Stoller. Phil co-wrote "Spanish Harlem" with Jerry Leiber that was recorded by Ben E. King at Bell Sound. While at Bell Sound he produced "Corrina Corrina" for Ray Peterson. He later produced Curtis Lee's "Pretty Little Angel Eyes" and the Crystals' first two hits on Philles, "There's No Other Like My Baby" and "Uptown" at Mirasound also in New York. After forming Philles, he moved to Los Angeles and back to Gold Star. He produced the Crystals "He's a Rebel", all of the Ronettes hits, most of the Righteous Bros. stuff there. According to the Spector box set, "Unchained Melody" was recorded at Radio Recorders in Hollywood. "River Deep Mountain High" by Ike and Tina Turner, a near chart topper in England was recorded at Gold Star. When the song didn't hit very well in America, he semi-retired. He came back in 1969 with "Black Pearl" by Sonny Charles and the Checkmates, recorded at A&M studios. His later work with John Lennon and George Harrison were done at EMI's Abbey Road studios, John's home studio at Tittenhurst both in England, and Record Plant studios in New York. His last well known project was the Ramones' "End Of The Century" recorded at Gold Star, A&M, and several other L.A . studios-released in 1979. Michael G. Marvin WASE radio --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Subject: Re: Reparata and the Delrons Received: 11/26/99 1:59 am From: Stos, William, xxxxx.tyenet.com To: Spectropop List, spectxxxxxities.com >Mick said Reparata was a really nice lady to talk to, very >friendly and helpful. More's the pity the compilation never >came to anything, she must have been very disappointed. Not to mention the rest of us. Is it difficult to obtain the master tapes of an artists' complete career for reissue? I mean, with Reparata and the Delrons floating around on several different labels, would all labels ever allow their cuts to be put on one master collection? Is there any hositility between labels? For example, is UA wanted to put their Crystals tracks on a comp with some Spector tracks, Phil and company would never let it happen. Is this the exception or the rule? Ian, you've done comps, what is it like? I also heard Michael Ochs charges an arm and a leg for photos for these types of things. Does he have a deal with labels, or is it $300 per photo same as always? Will --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Subject: Re: things are changin Received: 11/26/99 1:59 am From: Brad Elliott, suxxxxxonline.net To: Spectropop List, spectxxxxxities.com Hi, everybody! Sorry I've been away for so long. Unfortunately, family situations sometimes have to take priority to online life. Anyway, I'm trying to get caught up, reading the last dozen or so Spectropop digests in one fell swoop. The continuing discussion about "Don't Hurt My Little Sister"/ "Things Are Changing" has been interesting. Thanks, Carol, for providing your perspective on the track! I have to take issue with Mark Landwehr, who took issue with Bob Hanes: > But, Brian did write > DHMLS for the Ronettes. This has been accepted as fact for > many years, and was even mentioned in the 1991 Fitzpatrick/ > Fogerty book "Collecting Phil Spector." Whether Ronnie > remembers this or not is another story... Mark, the evidence seems to support that Brian actually wrote DHMLS for Darlene. I think it's just been assumed over the years that if Brian wrote a song for a Spector group, it had to have been for the Ronettes, as he was always so vocal about how much he loved "Be My Baby." But there is an early 1965 interview with Brian in which he stated, "And I just did a session with Darlene Love. I wrote the song for her, too." In 1981, BB collector Steve Harvey had the opportunity to ask Brian about his work with Spector. I quote Steve from a letter he wrote me: "I asked Brian about his recording session with Spector. Brian replied that they recorded a version of his 'Don't Hurt My Little Sister' using Darlene Love." I hope that clears that point up. Surf's up! Brad --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Subject: Tunes... Received: 11/26/99 1:59 am From: Carol Kaye, caroxxxxxhlink.net To: Spectropop List, spectxxxxxities.com >From Ian: >"My One & Only Jimmy Boy"? Titles are "I Don't Believe In >You"/"Baby Don't Cry", and it is listed as Colpix 744. Sorry, might be on these, but don't they don't ring a bell - can't remember most of the stuff I did. Carol Kaye http://www.carolkaye.com/ --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- End
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