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Spectropop V#0350

  • From: The Spectropop Group
  • Date: 11/26/99

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       Volume #0350                       November 26, 1999   
                A Long Playing Dynagroove Recording          
    Subject:     Announcement
    Received:    11/26/99 1:59 am
    From:        Carol Kaye,
    To:          Spectropop List,
    After the beautiful time of backing Brian Wilson at his 
    wonderful Lifetime Achievement Awards event, I have to 
    share this with you all, so non-plussed about all this:
    Just rec'd the following in the mail, you could have 
    bowled me over with a feather, must be dreaming:
    "It is with heartfelt pleasure that "Women In Music" 
    invites you to be honored at their Fourth Annual 
    Touchstone Awards Benefit Luncheon in New York City. In 
    recognition of your outstanding dedication, exemplary 
    career achievments and admirable personal and professional
    qualitites, it is our honor to further distinguish ou as a 
    woman who has made a difference. etc.etc."
    When I first started working at 9 years old, it was fun to
    earn money to help my mom (she had me late in life, and 
    both musician-parents split up then) and then later on 
    when I took some months of lessons, started playing gigs 
    and teaching at 14...that was another biggie - music was a
    positive force in my life and could take care of my 
    responsibilities with music. 
    The choice between continuing playing fine jazz or going 
    into studio work in 1958 was another biggie, kids came 
    first....wise choice. 
    And then when I tho't I'd never get over the injuries of 
    1976, a 2nd surgery to put me on the road of feeling great
    again, so at almost 65, am back playing jazz....this is 
    such an honor, you can't believe. 
    I have so much to be grateful for.
    Happy Thanksgiving everyone. 
    Carol Kaye
    PS. BTW, my new book (27th tutor item) is now out: "Jazz 
    Improv For Bass" and in the words of one purchaser "wow...
    had everything I needed here", being well-received....
    another grateful thing. Hope you ALL have a HAPPY 
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    Subject:     Paul Williams?????
    Received:    11/26/99 1:59 am
    From:        Ian Chapman,
    To:          Spectropop List,
    Hi everybody,
    Can anyone help me solve a mystery that has been bugging 
    me for several years? In '74 over here in the UK, Lynsey 
    De Paul had a hit with a very Spectoresque retro 
    girl-group song called "Ooh I Do". At the time, I recall 
    turning on the radio halfway through a very 
    similar-sounding song by a male singer. Not so Spectorish,
    but the tune was very similar indeed. The deejay then made 
    a comparison with the Lynsey De Paul track and even said 
    it almost constituted a rip-off, although he didn't know 
    which song came first. I've never been able to find out 
    what that other song was, although I seem to recall Paul 
    Williams' name being mentioned. I know there are some PW 
    afficionados on the list......anybody got any clues, or is
    this mystery going to follow me to the grave?!!
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    Subject:     Rare Phil Spector albums
    Received:    11/26/99 1:59 am
    From:        GORDON HOSIE,
    To:          Spectropop List,
    Could somebody tell me where I can get the rarer Phil 
    Spector albums shown on this site? 
    I'm referring to "Phil Spector Masterpiece" Vols 1 to 3. I
    want these pretty badly. Somebody out there must know where
    I can get them. If you do, let me know.
                        Gordon Hosie
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    Subject:     Re: Stea Phillips, A&R, United/Western
    Received:    11/26/99 1:59 am
    From:        WASE RADIO,
    To:          Spectropop List,
    Billy G. Spradlin:
    Stea Phillips studios was located in the Hotel Victoria in
    NYC. The early Four Seasons stuff like Sherry and Big Girls
    Don't Cry sounds like it was only recorded on three tracks.
    For example "Sherry" has the back track on the left channel, 
    lead vocal in the center, and background vocals on the 
    right. I don't think they recorded all of their major hits
    at Stea Phillips. I read somewhere they recorded "Rag Doll"
    at an unknown demo studio. Their later hits like "C'Mon 
    Marianne" were cut on four tracks. In 1968, they did a 
    very interesting cover version of the Shirelles' "Will You
    Still Love Me Tomorrow?"-and the production is so elaborate
    that it sounds like it was cut on eight tracks. Yes A&R was
    a great studio-used by Dionne Warwick-but also was used by 
    Lesley Gore, Peter,Paul and Mary,but also used by Billy 
    Joel, and even the Muppets (!). Unfortunatedly that studio
    closed down around 1985. I thought that the United/Western 
    studios was changed to Ocean Way in the early 1980s. But 
    Cello? That's a new name. 
    Michael G. Marvin
    WASE radio
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    Subject:     Phil Spector
    Received:    11/26/99 1:59 am
    To:          Spectropop List,
    To: Jamiee.
    I wish I could help you out with info on him as a producer, 
    but I have only seen him in Gold Star Studios 3 times 
    and had a great time watching him. As a person, he was 
    very generous to his close friends and as a Father he 
    tried to provide. He is doing a lot better now. I did not 
    care much for the book by Mark Ribowsky "He's a Rebel", in
    fact his own Mother (Bertha) hated it and the Author. The 
    author even had 2 spelling for Louis (the other Twin). For
    a decent book on what he was like in the Studio, check out 
    Ronnie Spectors book "Be My Baby". Not all the family 
    stuff is completly true since I know where the info came 
    from. If you want info on him as a person, let me know. 
    just ask the questions and I will answer what I can. 
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    Subject:     Brill and Phil Spector 101
    Received:    11/26/99 1:59 am
    From:        WASE RADIO,
    To:          Spectropop List,
    To Jaimee:
    The Brill Building was an eleven story edifice in midtown 
    Manhattan. During the early 1960s the building rang with 
    the incessant sound of voices and pianos. Songwriters such
    as Barry Mann and Cynthia Weil, Carole King and Gerry 
    Goffin, Neil Sedaka and Howie Greenfield, Jeff Barry and 
    Ellie Greenwich composed such classics as "Will You Still 
    Love Me Tomorrow?" for the Shirelles, "Breakin' Up Is Hard
    To Do", a number one hit for Neil Sedaka, and "You've Lost 
    That Lovin' Feeling", the Righteous Bros chart topper from
    1965. The songs were the most tuneful rock and roll songs, 
    making free use of simple fifth chords, maybe with a small
    subtle jazz tinge. Most of the songs that emerged from the 
    Brill Building were recorded in studios within a ten block
    radius of all those songwriting cubicles.
    The ones that Phil Spector co-wrote and produced were 
    recorded at Mirasound studios in New York. He later did 
    most of his major run of hits at Gold Star Studios in Los 
    Angeles. Phil was a New Yorker by birth, but moved to Los 
    Angeles as a child after his father's suicide. His 
    father's gravestone inspired Phil's first hit song "To 
    Know Him Is To Love Him" recorded by his group The Teddy 
    Bears at Gold Star in the late spring of 1958. The song 
    topped the charts around Christmas that same year. Later 
    he returned to New York and worked with Jerry Lieber and 
    Mike Stoller. Phil co-wrote "Spanish Harlem" with Jerry 
    Leiber that was recorded by Ben E. King at Bell Sound. 
    While at Bell Sound he produced "Corrina Corrina" for Ray 
    Peterson. He later produced Curtis Lee's "Pretty Little 
    Angel Eyes" and the Crystals' first two hits on Philles, 
    "There's No Other Like My Baby" and "Uptown" at Mirasound 
    also in New York. After forming Philles, he moved to Los 
    Angeles and back to Gold Star. He produced the Crystals 
    "He's a Rebel", all of the Ronettes hits, most of the 
    Righteous Bros. stuff there. According to the Spector box 
    set, "Unchained Melody" was recorded at Radio Recorders in
    "River Deep Mountain High" by Ike and Tina Turner, a near 
    chart topper in England was recorded at Gold Star. When 
    the song didn't hit very well in America, he semi-retired.
    He came back in 1969 with "Black Pearl" by Sonny Charles 
    and the Checkmates, recorded at A&M studios. His later 
    work with John Lennon and George Harrison were done at 
    EMI's Abbey Road studios, John's home studio at 
    Tittenhurst both in England, and Record Plant studios in 
    New York.
    His last well known project was the Ramones' "End Of The 
    Century" recorded at Gold Star, A&M, and several other L.A
    . studios-released in 1979.
                   Michael G. Marvin
                    WASE radio
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    Subject:     Re: Reparata and the Delrons
    Received:    11/26/99 1:59 am
    From:        Stos, William,
    To:          Spectropop List,
    >Mick said Reparata was a really nice lady to talk to, very
    >friendly and helpful. More's the pity the compilation never
    >came to anything, she must have been very disappointed.
    Not to mention the rest of us. Is it difficult to obtain 
    the master tapes of an artists' complete career for 
    reissue? I mean, with Reparata and the Delrons floating 
    around on several different labels, would all labels ever 
    allow their cuts to be put on one master collection? Is 
    there any hositility between labels? For example, is UA 
    wanted to put their Crystals tracks on a comp with some 
    Spector tracks, Phil and company would never let it happen. 
    Is this the exception or the rule? Ian, you've done 
    comps, what is it like?
    I also heard Michael Ochs charges an arm and a leg for 
    photos for these types of things. Does he have a deal with
    labels, or is it $300 per photo same as always?
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    Subject:     Re: things are changin
    Received:    11/26/99 1:59 am
    From:        Brad Elliott,
    To:          Spectropop List,
    Hi, everybody! Sorry I've been away for so long. 
    Unfortunately, family situations sometimes have to take 
    priority to online life.
    Anyway, I'm trying to get caught up, reading the last 
    dozen or so Spectropop digests in one fell swoop. The 
    continuing discussion about "Don't Hurt My Little Sister"/
    "Things Are Changing" has been interesting. Thanks, Carol,
    for providing your perspective on the track!
    I have to take issue with Mark Landwehr, who took issue 
    with Bob Hanes:
    > But, Brian did write
    > DHMLS for the Ronettes. This has been accepted as fact for
    > many years, and was even mentioned in the 1991 Fitzpatrick/
    > Fogerty book "Collecting Phil Spector." Whether Ronnie
    > remembers this or not is another story...
    Mark, the evidence seems to support that Brian actually 
    wrote DHMLS for Darlene. I think it's just been assumed 
    over the years that if Brian wrote a song for a Spector 
    group, it had to have been for the Ronettes, as he was 
    always so vocal about how much he loved "Be My Baby." But 
    there is an early 1965 interview with Brian in which he 
    stated, "And I just did a session with Darlene Love. I 
    wrote the song for her, too." In 1981, BB collector Steve 
    Harvey had the opportunity to ask Brian about his work 
    with Spector. I quote Steve from a letter he wrote me: "I 
    asked Brian about his recording session with Spector. 
    Brian replied that they recorded a version of his 'Don't 
    Hurt My Little Sister' using Darlene Love."
    I hope that clears that point up. 
    Surf's up!
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    Subject:     Tunes...
    Received:    11/26/99 1:59 am
    From:        Carol Kaye,
    To:          Spectropop List,
    >From Ian:  
    >"My One & Only Jimmy Boy"? Titles are "I Don't Believe In
    >You"/"Baby Don't Cry", and it is listed as Colpix 744.
    Sorry, might be on these, but don't they don't ring a bell - 
    can't remember most of the stuff I did.  
    Carol Kaye
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