__________________________________________________________ __________ __________ __________ __________ __________ S P E C T R O P O P __________ __________ __________ __________________________________________________________ Volume #0349 November 23, 1999 __________________________________________________________ The most trusted name in soundSubject: Phil Spector Received: 11/23/99 11:35 am From: Fisxxxxxcom To: Spectropop List, spectxxxxxities.com Hi- i am doing a paper on the Brill Building and Phil Spector. I was wondering of you could give me any helpful information? Thanks, Jaimee --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Subject: Screen Gems demos/Girlfriends follow-up Received: 11/23/99 11:36 am From: Ian Chapman, iaxxxxx.net To: Spectropop List, spectxxxxxities.com Jamie wrote: > The Cinderellas' "Good Good Lovin" is classic Brill, in > fact it sounds a lot like "Some of Your Lovin'" (Dusty). > According to the liners, this is an unreleased Screen Gems > (Aldon) demo. There is a recent Barry Mann boot of all his > Screen Gems demos floating around, which leads to the > question: Why did all these Screen Gems demos suddenly > surface? Who at EMI has them and how is it that these > reissue specialists are suddenly given access to them? > Anyone know? Bet you do, Ian Chapman! You are namechecked > in the liners. Do tell! Hi Jamie, Well, Jamie, I don't think it's so much a case of them suddenly surfacing. They've always been around - it's just that these days, good reissue companies are tending to ask people to do these compilations who have a deeper knowledge of their subject than perhaps has been the case in the past. Consequently, if a girl-group expert is given a list of available tapes to look through, and sees, say, a title credited to an artist/group that he/she knows wasn't issued, or maybe a song title that has no artist listed, but has the "right" writing or producing credits, then it's more likely that the expert will investigate and recognise the possible significance of what they've found. That way, the rarities finally see the light of day. With the Barry Mann demos, however, I get the impression that Barry kinda gave his unofficial blessing to that CD being issued - that he wanted his demos to be heard, particularly "We Gotta Get Out Of This Place" - and who can blame him? While we're on the subject of scarce tracks, is there anybody on the list who either owns, or has ever seen or heard the Girlfriends near-mythical follow-up to "My One & Only Jimmy Boy"? Titles are "I Don't Believe In You"/"Baby Don't Cry", and it is listed as Colpix 744. It's likely to be another Dave Gates production. Interestingly, when Mick Patrick asked Gloria Jones (Goodson) of the Girlfriends about this, she clearly remembered "Jimmy Boy", but had no knowledge of any follow-up. So does this mean a different set of session singers were used? EMI have the rights to the 2 tracks, but can't locate any tapes. It would be great to get them out on CD if they can be located anywhere, and if the owner was willing to let their record be used for a dub. Carol, do you have any information listed for those titles? The record's release date is listed as September '64. It must be out there somewhere! Ian --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Subject: Re: the 'Mints Received: 11/23/99 11:35 am From: DJ JimmyB, DJJimxxxxxcom To: Spectropop List, spectxxxxxities.com In a message dated 11/21/99 12:28:22 PM, you wrote: >Wednesday evening the LA Music awards were held at the El >Rey Theater. After a tight set by the Wondermints, Carol >Kaye presented Brian Wilson with a Lifetime Achievment >award and then joined Brian, the 'Mints, and Jeffrey >Foskett on a beautiful version of "God Only Knows." Seeing >Brian and Carol actually perform together on stage was >quite an exciting and touching moment. I love the 'Mints...Their take on Burt Bacharach's "Don't Go Breaking My Heart" on that Bacharach tribute recording of a couple of years back is the ONLY song on the CD worth hearing. Jimmy Botticelli --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Subject: Att: Jamie etc. Received: 11/23/99 11:35 am From: Carol Kaye, caroxxxxxhlink.net To: Spectropop List, spectxxxxxities.com Jamie, I worked quite a bit with the wonderful Darlene Love and many many other fine background studio singers too, actually some of the finest singers you'd ever hear. And they sightread music and sung together in the studios so well, you'd think they'd been "together" for years and years - but the singers were like us, each of them independent of each other - called "free-lance" independent. The singers were the best in the business. It was quite noticeable how mediocre (or bad) most of the "star" singers were in comparison....but as in the article that Howard Roberts spoke of, about the music that we had to record, for that rock-pop-different types of "easy" music (music that was technically-easy, Howard speaks of playing the utmost simplest triad chords for hours, not even dominants, and getting sick of it all, was so boring and tiresome). The "star" singers were OK for those types of recordings... you didn't have to have a lot of talent nor fine singing ability to be a "star"...and I see the same holds true for much of today's music too altho' there's a few who can really sing well also. The studio singers were some of the greatest singers you'd ever hear, very excellent at their craft...they were worth their money believe me for propping up many a recording. Just like the studio musicians were also. Sorry, I don't remember any episode of Leon Russell "drunk", I know he was pretty busy there before he went off on his own (about the time the arrangements got "hairier" in difficulty to sightread). There was a guitar player who did get drunk and locked himself in a closet that I was called to sub for, and that didn't help his studio career any when word of that got out. Booze, dope, being late, being arrogant, not knowing multiple-styles of music, not being up on your instrument, etc. -- these things were NOT tolerated back in the 50s, 60s and early 70s....but the 70s saw introduction of cocaine being used by producers who encouraged their studio musicians to "use" it with them (or they didn't work), that kind of thing....thank God most of our group were doing the more conservative TV film and movie scoring by that time...I heard the awful stories, and saw the drummers rush on cocaine on a few of the record dates I would take too, ugly business. No wonder the synthesizers took over. Yes, things like that you don't forget, about the vast differences between the "star" talents and the background studio singers. But there were *real* star-singers like Bobby Darin, Ray Charles, Mel Torme, Sam Cooke, Sinatra, etc. who made up the difference and others who were fairly good singers also: Lettermen, Righteous Bros. (for that style of music), others. Thank-you, David, for your nice words about the Brian Wilson Lifetime Achievement Awards....it was a great moment for Brian, and an absolute happy thrill to play for him again, he was a little tired but very happy that night. I just said a few words (great audience) and it was Chris Carter, manager of the Wondermints, who presented the award to Brian. Lots of press and media in the band-room afterwards where a few of Brian's close friends also were, with Melinda all smiles too -- she's so great, so well-organized, and helps Brian with it all, I admire her so much. The people in the audience were just the best. Regards, Carol http://www.carolkaye.com/ --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Subject: Re: Gold Star Received: 11/23/99 11:35 am From: WASE RADIO,xxxxxt.org To: Spectropop List, spectxxxxxities.com To Jake Tassell: Gold Star studios was founded in 1950 by Dave Gold and Stan Ross, and in its 34 years has lived up to its name-by being awarded with 175 gold record awards. The studio dimension was roughly 35 by 23 feet, with a 14 foot high ceiling. Because of the low ceiling that would cause the sound to go flat, acoustic chambers had to be designed. According to the liner note on the Phil Spector's Greatest Hits double album released on Warner Spector, Gold Star had four accoustic chambers. In an interview with drummer Hal Blaine on Dick Clark's Rock, Roll and Remember, Hal mentioned that one chamber was on the ceiling, It was in the shape of a casket with a microphone on one end and a speaker on the other. The amount of reverb could be controlled therough the board. The board was a custom board-in other words completely built from scratch. The mics were probablly the usual ones-such as Neumann. One particular note. There is a picture of the Righteous Brothers singing into a single RCA mike. I have seen several pictures of the studio, and across the room from where the control room is are two large monitor speaker cabinets, each looking like they have two speakers inside. The top ones look like Klipschhorns and the bottom ones like giant woofers. Imagine how loud they must have sounded. On the back of the original Sonny and Cher album"Look At Us" (Atco 33-177) there is a picture of a very serious looking Stan Ross at the board. To his right are two reel to reel tape machines. One is a full track, and next to it is a taller three track machine. I don't know what the brand names are. The roster of artist who recorded there is a virtual who's who. The Teddy Bears' "To Know Him Is To Love Him" (which Phil wrote, played guitar and sang backgroung on) was recorded there. Phil must have loved that studio so much, he produced the Paris Sisters' "I Love How You Love Me" there- and pretty much the majority of his Philles stuff, starting with the Crystals' "He's A Rebel". Phil was not the only person to visit the studio, but it used by Sonny and Cher, Herb Alpert and the Tijuana Brass, The Murmaids ("Popsicles and Icicles"), and so many others. Well, got a basketball game I got to sit through. More later, Michael G. Marvin WASE radio --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Subject: Mirasound, Stea-Phillips, A&R, Western/United... Received: 11/23/99 11:35 am From: Billy G. Spradlin, bgsprxxxxxhlink.net To: Spectropop List, spectxxxxxities.com Dear Michael: I saw your information on Mirasound and was wondering do you know any information about Stea-Phillips studios, where the 4 Seasons recorded most of their hits? Also, how many tracks did most of these studio's have (3-4 -8?). These 60's studio's seemed unique compared to today's studios, because they were so big. I was checking out the Bacharach box set and there's several pictures of Dionne Warwick sessions at A&R in NYC and it looked like the studio was big enough to play half-court basketball in. I think its sad that most of these studios are now defunct. I can understand why someone like Matthew Sweet went to Cello studios in L.A. (Formerly Western/United) to re-create a classic Wall-of-Sound for his new album. Theres not too many left! --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Subject: Re: Reparata Received: 11/23/99 11:35 am From: Michael B Kelly, docxxxxx.com To: Spectropop List, spectxxxxxities.com I forgot to mention that I also have over a dozen Reparata 45s. Doc --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Subject: Reparata & the Deter-Rons Received: 11/23/99 11:36 am From: Ian Chapman, iaxxxxx.net To: Spectropop List, spectxxxxxities.com Kingsley wrote: > They may well get some re-released tracks in the UK on a > Mick Patrick compilation. I seem to recall him talking to > me about them a month or two back. There was a Reparata compilation planned for Ace that Mick was going to do, about a couple of years ago. Ace were in touch with Steve Jerome, who had given the go-ahead, and he sent a list of Reparata titles that he claimed to have the master tapes to. These included all the World Artists tracks, some RCA, (but not "I'm Nobody's Baby") and some Mala. There was an unreleased RCA track too. Mick was given a deadline to do the sequencing and the liner notes, which he did after interviewing Reparata over the phone. Everything was in place, but as with many of these compilations, actually obtaining the tapes is often the very last item on the agenda. Steve Jerome allegedly proved rather difficult to deal with, and no matter how many times Ace asked, apparently he would not send them the correct tapes. It seems he would either send incomplete mixes, or tapes that were not of sufficient sound quality to use. In the end, they gave up, and the project was cancelled. However, Ace did manage to salvage the unreleased RCA track, "Look In My Diary", and use it on "Where The Girls Are". This too was of poor sound quality - however, you'd never know it, thanks to some splicing wizardry at Ace. Mick's interview with Mary Reparata Aiese is still in the can, and he will eventually publish it in "That Will Never Happen Again" (sometime!). In the meantime, here's a couple of snippets from it that he's happy to share. Reparata, who is indeed a school teacher now, has a very clear memory of her recording days. We've had a few posts about the original line-up recently... it seems that Kathy Romeos' departure was more likely to have stemmed from tone-deafness, rather than any considerations of size . As for Delrons Carol Drobnicki (the blonde one) and Sheila Reilly (on the right on the LP cover), it's been documented in past interviews that the morning the group were due to depart on a Dick Clark tour, Carol and Sheila got cold feet and didn't show up, and were fired. Reparata then had to go on the tour solo. As the group's current record was "Tommy" - very much a call-and-response song - Reparata urgently needed some stand-ins. And so who became unseen temporary "Delrons" from the wings? None other than the Detergents, who were also on the bill! Regarding the group's album, it may come as no surprise to learn that the real Delrons didn't actually back Reparata. Instead, Reparata told Mick, her backing vocals on that LP were done by Patty Lace & the Petticoats, plus Ellie Greenwich. Mick wondered if Reparata was given acetates to listen to when she had to learn a new song. Usually, yes, she said, but in the case of "I'm Nobody's Baby Now" - her favourite recording, and the one of which she is most proud - she said that Jeff Barry, who wrote it, played it for her, and that's where she learned it - "live", with Jeff at the piano. Mick said Reparata was a really nice lady to talk to, very friendly and helpful. More's the pity the compilation never came to anything, she must have been very disappointed. Ian --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Subject: The Liquid Room 11/20/99 Received: 11/23/99 11:35 am From: Ponak, David, david.xxxxxcom To: Spectropop, spectxxxxxities.com The Liquid Room airs every Saturday Morning (Friday night) from 3-6 on 90.7 FM KPFK. (98.7 in Santa Barbara County). Also check out my show The Nice Age at http://www.spikeradio.com Monday and Wednesday evenings from 8-10, PST. 1.The Comittee-California My Way Happy Together: The Best Of White Whale Records (Varese Sarabande) 2.Cibo Matto-About A Girl Moonchild Promo CD (WB) 3.Lalo Schifrin-The Girl Who Came In The The Tide Mannix Soundtrack (Aleph) 4.Lords Of Acid-Am I Sexy? More Music From The Motion Picture The Spy Who Shagged Me (Maverick) 5.Handsome Boy Modeling School-The Truth (Feat. Roison of Moloko) So...How's Your Girl? (Tommy Boy) 6.Stu Phillips (featuring Dino, Desi & Billy)-Big Wave Bay Follow Me Soundtrack (UNI) 7.Wondermints-My id/Entity Bali (NeOSITE-Japan) 8.The Rotary Connection-If I Sing My Song Songs/Hey Love (CD 2-fer, Ace UK) 9.Katerine-Le Appartement Les Creatures (Rosebud-France) 10.Frank Sinatra Jr.-Now Is The Time (Free Design cover song!!!!) His Way! (Daybreak) 11.Sammy Davis Jr.-Keep Your Eye On The Sparrow (Baretta's Theme) Yes I Can! The Sammy Davis Jr. Story (Box Set-Rhino) 12.Le Tone-Rocky VIII Le Petit Nabab (Creation-UK) 13.Van Dyke Parks-Music For Ice Capades TV Commercials The 1969 Warner Reprise Record Show (WB) 14.Chappie-The International Chappie's Cheerleading Team New Chappie (SMEJ) 15.Steve Lawrence-The Drifter The Roger Nichols Songbook (Japanese Bootleg Compilation) 16.Scott Walker-Only Myself To Blame The World Is Not Enough Soundtrack (Radioactive) 17.Blossom Dearie-I Like London In The Rain In Flight Entertainment (Deram-UK) 18.Spanky & Our Gang-Without Rhyme Or Reason Without Rhyme Or Reason b/w Anything You Choose (Mercury) 19.Toog-My White Trousers 6633 (Le Grand Magistery) 20.Sagittarius-My World Fell Down (Single Version) Present Tense (Sundazed) 21.The Raymakers-Love-lee Unreleased 22.Lee Hazlewood-Wind Sky Sea & Sand Poet Fool Or Bum (Captiol) 23.Nancy Sinatra & Lee Hazlewood-Love Is Strange (Previously Unreleased) You Go-Go Girl (Varese Sarabande) 24.Ben Folds Five-Don't Change Your Plans The Unauthorized Biography Of Reinhold Messner (Sony) 25.Serge Gainsbourg-Cargo Culte Melody Nelson (Polygram) 26.Prince-The Sun The Moon And Star Rave Un2 The Joy Fantastic (NPG/Arista) 27.Jason Faulkner-Pretty Ballerina A Tribute To The Left Banke (Apollo) 28.The Bill Shepherd Singers-Red Chair Fade Away The Bill Shepherd Singers Sing The Bee Gee's Hits (Atco) 30.PM Dawn-Music For Carnivores Dearest Christian, I'm So Sorry For Bringing You Here, Love Dad (Gee Street/V2) 31.Orbital-Way Out Middle Of Nowhere (London) 32.Boo Radleys-Jimmy Webb Is God King Size (Creation) 33.Neil Diamond-The Grass Won't Pay No Mind Glory Road (MCA) 34.Saturnine-The Wind Is Blowing Like An Outlaw American Kestrel 35.Blur-Tender (Cornelius Remix) Coffee & TV EP (EMI-Japan) 36.Funkadelic-We Hurt Too America Eats Its Young (Westbound) 37.Stereolab-Les Aimies Des Memes The Free Design Promo CD (b-side) (Elektra) 38.Beck-Broken Train Midnight Vultures (DGC) 39.Cher-Dream Baby EMI Legendary Masters-The Best Of Cher (EMI) 40.Scritti Politti-Brushed With Oil, Dusted With Powder Anomie & Bonhomie (Virgin) 41.Elvis Costello With Burt Bacharach-The Sweetest Punch Painted From Memory (Mercury) 42.Esquivel-Brazil See It In Sound (7n/BMG) 43.Eternity's Children-Lifetime Day Eternity's Children (Rev-ola) 44.One Star-The Jelly Is Set! Triangulum (Flavour-Japan) 45.The Association-Come On In Birthday (WB) 46.Roger Nichols & The Small Circle Of Friends-Trust The Complete.... (Polydor-Japan) 47.Leslie Gore-Small Talk It's My Party-The Mercury Anthology (Polygram) 48.Paul Williams-Morning I'll Be Moving On Someday Man (Reprise) --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- End
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