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  • From: The Spectropop Group
  • Date: 11/23/99

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       Volume #0349                       November 23, 1999   
                  The most trusted name in sound              
    Subject:     Phil Spector
    Received:    11/23/99 11:35 am
    From:        Fisxxxxxcom
    To:          Spectropop List,
    Hi- i am doing a paper on the Brill Building and Phil 
    Spector. I was wondering of you could give me any helpful 
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    Subject:     Screen Gems demos/Girlfriends follow-up
    Received:    11/23/99 11:36 am
    From:        Ian Chapman,
    To:          Spectropop List,
    Jamie wrote:
    > The Cinderellas' "Good Good Lovin" is classic Brill, in
    > fact it sounds a lot like "Some of Your Lovin'" (Dusty).
    > According to the liners, this is an unreleased Screen Gems
    > (Aldon) demo. There is a recent Barry Mann boot of all his
    > Screen Gems demos floating around, which leads to the
    > question: Why did all these Screen Gems demos suddenly
    > surface? Who at EMI has them and how is it that these
    > reissue specialists are suddenly given access to them?
    > Anyone know? Bet you do, Ian Chapman! You are namechecked
    > in the liners. Do tell!
    Hi Jamie,
    Well, Jamie, I don't think it's so much a case of them 
    suddenly surfacing. They've always been around - it's just
    that these days, good reissue companies are tending to ask 
    people to do these compilations who have a deeper 
    knowledge of their subject than perhaps has been the case 
    in the past. Consequently, if a girl-group expert is given
    a list of available tapes to look through, and sees, say, a
    title credited to an artist/group that he/she knows wasn't 
    issued, or maybe a song title that has no artist listed, 
    but has the "right" writing or producing credits, then 
    it's more likely that the expert will investigate and 
    recognise the possible significance of what they've found.
    That way, the rarities finally see the light of day.
    With the Barry Mann demos, however, I get the impression 
    that Barry kinda gave his unofficial blessing to that CD 
    being issued - that he wanted his demos to be heard, 
    particularly "We Gotta Get Out Of This Place" - and who 
    can blame him?
    While we're on the subject of scarce tracks, is there 
    anybody on the list who either owns, or has ever seen or 
    heard the Girlfriends near-mythical follow-up to "My One &
    Only Jimmy Boy"? Titles are "I Don't Believe In You"/"Baby 
    Don't Cry", and it is listed as Colpix 744. It's likely to
    be another Dave Gates production. Interestingly, when Mick 
    Patrick asked Gloria Jones (Goodson) of the Girlfriends 
    about this, she clearly remembered "Jimmy Boy", but had no
    knowledge of any follow-up. So does this mean a different 
    set of session singers were used? EMI have the rights to 
    the 2 tracks, but can't locate any tapes. It would be 
    great to get them out on CD if they can be located 
    anywhere, and if the owner was willing to let their record
    be used for a dub.
    Carol, do you have any information listed for those titles? 
    The record's release date is listed as September '64. It
    must be out there somewhere!
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    Subject:     Re:  the 'Mints
    Received:    11/23/99 11:35 am
    From:        DJ JimmyB, DJJimxxxxxcom
    To:          Spectropop List,
    In a message dated 11/21/99 12:28:22 PM, you wrote:
    >Wednesday evening the LA Music awards were held at the El 
    >Rey Theater. After a tight set by the Wondermints, Carol 
    >Kaye presented Brian Wilson with a Lifetime Achievment 
    >award and then joined Brian, the 'Mints, and Jeffrey 
    >Foskett on a beautiful version of "God Only Knows." Seeing
    >Brian and Carol actually perform together on stage was 
    >quite an exciting and touching moment. 
    I love the 'Mints...Their take on Burt Bacharach's "Don't 
    Go Breaking My Heart" on that Bacharach tribute recording 
    of a couple of years back is the ONLY song on the CD worth
    Jimmy Botticelli
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    Subject:     Att:  Jamie etc.
    Received:    11/23/99 11:35 am
    From:        Carol Kaye,
    To:          Spectropop List,
    I worked quite a bit with the wonderful Darlene Love and 
    many many other fine background studio singers too, 
    actually some of the finest singers you'd ever hear. And 
    they sightread music and sung together in the studios so 
    well, you'd think they'd been "together" for years and 
    years - but the singers were like us, each of them 
    independent of each other - called "free-lance" 
    independent. The singers were the best in the business.
    It was quite noticeable how mediocre (or bad) most of the 
    "star" singers were in comparison....but as in the article
    that Howard Roberts spoke of, about the music that we had 
    to record, for that rock-pop-different types of "easy" 
    music (music that was technically-easy, Howard speaks of 
    playing the utmost simplest triad chords for hours, not 
    even dominants, and getting sick of it all, was so boring 
    and tiresome).
    The "star" singers were OK for those types of recordings...
    you didn't have to have a lot of talent nor fine 
    singing ability to be a "star"...and I see the same holds
    true for much of today's music too altho' there's a few who
    can really sing well also.
    The studio singers were some of the greatest singers you'd
    ever hear, very excellent at their craft...they were worth 
    their money believe me for propping up many a recording. 
    Just like the studio musicians were also.
    Sorry, I don't remember any episode of Leon Russell "drunk", 
    I know he was pretty busy there before he went off on 
    his own (about the time the arrangements got "hairier" in 
    difficulty to sightread).
    There was a guitar player who did get drunk and locked 
    himself in a closet that I was called to sub for, and that
    didn't help his studio career any when word of that got out. 
    Booze, dope, being late, being arrogant, not knowing 
    multiple-styles of music, not being up on your instrument,
    etc. -- these things were NOT tolerated back in the 50s, 
    60s and early 70s....but the 70s saw introduction of 
    cocaine being used by producers who encouraged their 
    studio musicians to "use" it with them (or they didn't 
    work), that kind of thing....thank God most of our group 
    were doing the more conservative TV film and movie scoring
    by that time...I heard the awful stories, and saw the 
    drummers rush on cocaine on a few of the record dates I 
    would take too, ugly business. No wonder the synthesizers 
    took over.
    Yes, things like that you don't forget, about the vast 
    differences between the "star" talents and the background 
    studio singers. But there were *real* star-singers like 
    Bobby Darin, Ray Charles, Mel Torme, Sam Cooke, Sinatra, 
    etc. who made up the difference and others who were fairly
    good singers also: Lettermen, Righteous Bros. (for that 
    style of music), others.
    Thank-you, David, for your nice words about the Brian 
    Wilson Lifetime Achievement was a great 
    moment for Brian, and an absolute happy thrill to play for
    him again, he was a little tired but very happy that night. 
    I just said a few words (great audience) and it was Chris 
    Carter, manager of the Wondermints, who presented the 
    award to Brian. Lots of press and media in the band-room 
    afterwards where a few of Brian's close friends also were,
    with Melinda all smiles too -- she's so great, so 
    well-organized, and helps Brian with it all, I admire her 
    so much. The people in the audience were just the best.
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    Subject:     Re: Gold Star
    Received:    11/23/99 11:35 am
    From:        WASE RADIO,
    To:          Spectropop List,
    To Jake Tassell:
    Gold Star studios was founded in 1950 by Dave Gold and 
    Stan Ross, and in its 34 years has lived up to its name-by
    being awarded with 175 gold record awards. The studio 
    dimension was roughly 35 by 23 feet, with a 14 foot high 
    ceiling. Because of the low ceiling that would cause the 
    sound to go flat, acoustic chambers had to be designed. 
    According to the liner note on the Phil Spector's Greatest
    Hits double album released on Warner Spector, Gold Star had
    four accoustic chambers. 
    In an interview with drummer Hal Blaine on Dick Clark's 
    Rock, Roll and Remember, Hal mentioned that one chamber 
    was on the ceiling, It was in the shape of a casket with a
    microphone on one end and a speaker on the other. The 
    amount of reverb could be controlled therough the board. 
    The board was a custom board-in other words completely 
    built from scratch. The mics were probablly the usual 
    ones-such as Neumann. 
    One particular note. There is a picture of the Righteous 
    Brothers singing into a single RCA mike. I have seen 
    several pictures of the studio, and across the room from 
    where the control room is are two large monitor speaker 
    cabinets, each looking like they have two speakers inside.
    The top ones look like Klipschhorns and the bottom ones 
    like giant woofers. Imagine how loud they must have 
    On the back of the original Sonny and Cher album"Look At 
    Us" (Atco 33-177) there is a picture of a very serious 
    looking Stan Ross at the board. To his right are two reel 
    to reel tape machines. One is a full track, and next to it
    is a taller three track machine. I don't know what the 
    brand names are. 
    The roster of artist who recorded there is a virtual who's
    who. The Teddy Bears' "To Know Him Is To Love Him" (which 
    Phil wrote, played guitar and sang backgroung on) was 
    recorded there. Phil must have loved that studio so much, 
    he produced the Paris Sisters' "I Love How You Love Me" 
    there- and pretty much the majority of his Philles stuff, 
    starting with the Crystals' "He's A Rebel". Phil was not 
    the only person to visit the studio, but it used by Sonny 
    and Cher, Herb Alpert and the Tijuana Brass, The Murmaids 
    ("Popsicles and Icicles"), and so many others. 
    Well, got a basketball game I got to sit through. 
    More later, 
    Michael G. Marvin
    WASE radio
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    Subject:     Mirasound, Stea-Phillips, A&R, Western/United...
    Received:    11/23/99 11:35 am
    From:        Billy G. Spradlin,
    To:          Spectropop List,
    Dear Michael:
    I saw your information on Mirasound and was wondering do 
    you know any information about Stea-Phillips studios, 
    where the 4 Seasons recorded most of their hits?
    Also, how many tracks did most of these studio's have (3-4
    -8?). These 60's studio's seemed unique compared to 
    today's studios, because they were so big. I was checking 
    out the Bacharach box set and there's several pictures of 
    Dionne Warwick sessions at A&R in NYC and it looked like 
    the studio was big enough to play half-court basketball in.
    I think its sad that most of these studios are now defunct. 
    I can understand why someone like Matthew Sweet went to 
    Cello studios in L.A. (Formerly Western/United) to 
    re-create a classic Wall-of-Sound for his new album. 
    Theres not too many left! 
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    Subject:     Re: Reparata
    Received:    11/23/99 11:35 am
    From:        Michael B Kelly,
    To:          Spectropop List,
    I forgot to mention that I also have over a dozen 
    Reparata 45s.
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    Subject:     Reparata & the Deter-Rons
    Received:    11/23/99 11:36 am
    From:        Ian Chapman,
    To:          Spectropop List,
    Kingsley wrote:
    > They may well get some re-released tracks in the UK on a
    > Mick Patrick compilation. I seem to recall him talking to
    > me about them a month or two back.
    There was a Reparata compilation planned for Ace that Mick
    was going to do, about a couple of years ago. Ace were in 
    touch with Steve Jerome, who had given the go-ahead, and 
    he sent a list of Reparata titles that he claimed to have 
    the master tapes to. These included all the World Artists 
    tracks, some RCA, (but not "I'm Nobody's Baby") and some 
    Mala. There was an unreleased RCA track too. Mick was 
    given a deadline to do the sequencing and the liner notes,
    which he did after interviewing Reparata over the phone. 
    Everything was in place, but as with many of these 
    compilations, actually obtaining the tapes is often the 
    very last item on the agenda. Steve Jerome allegedly 
    proved rather difficult to deal with, and no matter how 
    many times Ace asked, apparently he would not send them 
    the correct tapes. It seems he would either send 
    incomplete mixes, or tapes that were not of sufficient 
    sound quality to use. In the end, they gave up, and the 
    project was cancelled. However, Ace did manage to salvage 
    the unreleased RCA track, "Look In My Diary", and use it 
    on "Where The Girls Are". This too was of poor sound 
    quality - however, you'd never know it, thanks to some 
    splicing wizardry at Ace.
    Mick's interview with Mary Reparata Aiese is still in the 
    can, and he will eventually publish it in "That Will Never
    Happen Again" (sometime!). In the meantime, here's a couple
    of snippets from it that he's happy to share. Reparata, who
    is indeed a school teacher now, has a very clear memory of 
    her recording days.
    We've had a few posts about the original line-up recently...
    it seems that Kathy Romeos' departure was more likely 
    to have stemmed from tone-deafness, rather than any 
    considerations of size . As for Delrons Carol Drobnicki 
    (the blonde one) and Sheila Reilly (on the right on the LP 
    cover), it's been documented in past interviews that the 
    morning the group were due to depart on a Dick Clark tour,
    Carol and Sheila got cold feet and didn't show up, and were
    fired. Reparata then had to go on the tour solo. As the 
    group's current record was "Tommy" - very much a 
    call-and-response song - Reparata urgently needed some 
    stand-ins. And so who became unseen temporary "Delrons" 
    from the wings? None other than the Detergents, who were 
    also on the bill!
    Regarding the group's album, it may come as no surprise to
    learn that the real Delrons didn't actually back Reparata. 
    Instead, Reparata told Mick, her backing vocals on that LP
    were done by Patty Lace & the Petticoats, plus Ellie 
    Mick wondered if Reparata was given acetates to listen to 
    when she had to learn a new song. Usually, yes, she said, 
    but in the case of "I'm Nobody's Baby Now" - her favourite
    recording, and the one of which she is most proud - she 
    said that Jeff Barry, who wrote it, played it for her, and
    that's where she learned it - "live", with Jeff at the 
    Mick said Reparata was a really nice lady to talk to, very
    friendly and helpful. More's the pity the compilation never
    came to anything, she must have been very disappointed.
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    Subject:     The Liquid Room 11/20/99
    Received:    11/23/99 11:35 am
    From:        Ponak, David, david.xxxxxcom
    To:          Spectropop,
    The Liquid Room airs every Saturday Morning (Friday night)
    from 3-6 on 90.7 FM KPFK. (98.7 in Santa Barbara County).
    Also check out my show The Nice Age at 
    Monday and Wednesday evenings from 8-10, PST.
    1.The Comittee-California My Way
    Happy Together: The Best Of White Whale Records (Varese Sarabande)
    2.Cibo Matto-About A Girl
    Moonchild Promo CD (WB)
    3.Lalo Schifrin-The Girl Who Came In The The Tide
    Mannix Soundtrack (Aleph)
    4.Lords Of Acid-Am I Sexy?
    More Music From The Motion Picture The Spy Who Shagged Me (Maverick)
    5.Handsome Boy Modeling School-The Truth (Feat. Roison of Moloko)
    So...How's Your Girl? (Tommy Boy)
    6.Stu Phillips (featuring Dino, Desi & Billy)-Big Wave Bay
    Follow Me Soundtrack (UNI)
    7.Wondermints-My id/Entity
    Bali (NeOSITE-Japan)
    8.The Rotary Connection-If I Sing My Song
    Songs/Hey Love (CD 2-fer, Ace UK)
    9.Katerine-Le Appartement
    Les Creatures (Rosebud-France)
    10.Frank Sinatra Jr.-Now Is The Time (Free Design cover song!!!!)
    His Way! (Daybreak)
    11.Sammy Davis Jr.-Keep Your Eye On The Sparrow (Baretta's Theme)
    Yes I Can! The Sammy Davis Jr. Story (Box Set-Rhino)
    12.Le Tone-Rocky VIII
    Le Petit Nabab (Creation-UK)
    13.Van Dyke Parks-Music For Ice Capades TV Commercials
    The 1969 Warner Reprise Record Show (WB)
    14.Chappie-The International Chappie's Cheerleading Team
    New Chappie (SMEJ)
    15.Steve Lawrence-The Drifter
    The Roger Nichols Songbook (Japanese Bootleg Compilation)
    16.Scott Walker-Only Myself To Blame
    The World Is Not Enough Soundtrack (Radioactive)
    17.Blossom Dearie-I Like London In The Rain
    In Flight Entertainment (Deram-UK)
    18.Spanky & Our Gang-Without Rhyme Or Reason
    Without Rhyme Or Reason b/w Anything You Choose (Mercury)
    19.Toog-My White Trousers
    6633 (Le Grand Magistery)
    20.Sagittarius-My World Fell Down (Single Version)
    Present Tense (Sundazed)
    21.The Raymakers-Love-lee
    22.Lee Hazlewood-Wind Sky Sea & Sand
    Poet Fool Or Bum (Captiol)
    23.Nancy Sinatra & Lee Hazlewood-Love Is Strange (Previously Unreleased)
    You Go-Go Girl (Varese Sarabande)
    24.Ben Folds Five-Don't Change Your Plans
    The Unauthorized Biography Of Reinhold Messner  (Sony)
    25.Serge Gainsbourg-Cargo Culte
    Melody Nelson (Polygram)
    26.Prince-The Sun The Moon And Star
    Rave Un2 The Joy Fantastic (NPG/Arista)
    27.Jason Faulkner-Pretty Ballerina
    A Tribute To The Left Banke (Apollo)
    28.The Bill Shepherd Singers-Red Chair Fade Away
    The Bill Shepherd Singers Sing The Bee Gee's Hits (Atco)
    30.PM Dawn-Music For Carnivores
    Dearest Christian, I'm So Sorry For Bringing You Here, Love Dad (Gee
    31.Orbital-Way Out
    Middle Of Nowhere (London)
    32.Boo Radleys-Jimmy Webb Is God
    King Size (Creation)
    33.Neil Diamond-The Grass Won't Pay No Mind
    Glory Road (MCA)
    34.Saturnine-The Wind Is Blowing Like An Outlaw
    American Kestrel 
    35.Blur-Tender (Cornelius Remix)
    Coffee & TV EP (EMI-Japan)
    36.Funkadelic-We Hurt Too
    America Eats Its Young (Westbound)
    37.Stereolab-Les Aimies Des Memes
    The Free Design Promo CD (b-side) (Elektra)
    38.Beck-Broken Train
    Midnight Vultures (DGC)
    39.Cher-Dream Baby
    EMI Legendary Masters-The Best Of Cher (EMI)
    40.Scritti Politti-Brushed With Oil, Dusted With Powder
    Anomie & Bonhomie (Virgin)
    41.Elvis Costello With Burt Bacharach-The Sweetest Punch
    Painted From Memory (Mercury)
    See It In Sound (7n/BMG)
    43.Eternity's Children-Lifetime Day
    Eternity's Children (Rev-ola)
    44.One Star-The Jelly Is Set!
    Triangulum (Flavour-Japan)
    45.The Association-Come On In
    Birthday (WB)
    46.Roger Nichols & The Small Circle Of Friends-Trust
    The Complete.... (Polydor-Japan)
    47.Leslie Gore-Small Talk
    It's My Party-The Mercury Anthology (Polygram)
    48.Paul Williams-Morning I'll Be Moving On
    Someday Man (Reprise)
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