__________________________________________________________ __________ __________ __________ __________ __________ S P E C T R O P O P __________ __________ __________ __________________________________________________________ Volume #0341 November 5, 1999 __________________________________________________________ Phil & AnnetteSubject: Re: Sequel/Castle releases Received: 11/05/99 6:58 am From: Derrick Bostromxxxxxpuppets.com To: Spectropop List, spectxxxxxities.com > So I'm doing this record deal over at Castle Music in > England and one of the major perks of doing entertainment > law is that you can generally blag some swag. Don't pass up their Ivy League and Pinkerton's Colours/ Flying Machine comps! And if it were me, I wouldn't leave without their Jerry Ross Symposium collection and all the Easy Project titles. Derrick Bostroxxxxxpuppets.com --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Subject: Sequel girls (& boys) Received: 11/05/99 6:58 am From: iandrew, iaxxxxx.net To: Spectropop List, spectxxxxxities.com Matthew wrote: >Are all nine of of the "Here Come The Girls" collections >essential? I think that I'm going to stay away from the >boy group series, just doesn't have the same thrill. Matthew.... I think it's a pretty safe bet to say that a Spectropopper would find something appealing on all the volumes of HCTG, so grab 'em while you can. The series bows out with Vol. 10, which is a double-set (of mixed quality, IMO) entitled "Girls Don't Come" (yes, really). Don't be too quick to dismiss the two "Here Come The Boys" sets, though. Although they were poor sellers, you'll find some excellent Spectropop stuff hidden away on these that may not appear on CD again for quite a while. Stuff like the Chants' "She's Mine" (the Alice Wonderland/Swans song), their great Frankie Lymon-ish take of "I Could Write A Book", and the stompy 4 Seasons-styled "I Don't Care". Then there's "Bu Bop A Lu Bop A Lie" by Robb Storme (Da Doo Ron Ron influence), Mark Wynter's fantastic surfy Andrew Oldham-produced version of Sloan & Barri's "Can I Get To Know You Better" (for me THE version), plus good quality harmony pop from the likes of the Ivy League and the Sands of Time. And the Searchers' jangling Spectorised version of the Jackie de Shannon song "Each Time" is solid gold. Try it, you'll like it! Ian Chapman --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Subject: commercial music IDs Received: 11/05/99 6:58 am From: Frank Youngwerth, xxxxxcom To: Spectropop List, spectxxxxxities.com Anybody recognize the ethereal Tijuana Brass-type music that comes in at the end of those TV commercials now running for e-stamps (where the guy goes out to buy stamps and when he finally gets back it's decades later)? Also, have the short electronic pieces Eric Siday created in the 60s for radio and TV ever been collected on LP or CD? I would assume he did the one for Mutual news that gets sampled in Roky Erickson's "Creature with the Atom Brain." Frank Youngwerth --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Subject: Darlene & "Little Sister" Received: 11/05/99 6:58 am From: Mark Landwehr, mxxxxxbbs.com To: Spectropop List, Spectxxxxxities.com Just wanted to update everyone on an old thread...Many moons ago, there was a discussion re: the EEOC records/ Phil Spector/Brian Wilson - When the dust had cleared, it was agreed upon (I think) that Brian wrote the tune for the Ronettes & played piano on the track that Spector cut but eventually gave away for use on the EEOC public-service records. Mention was made of the Ronettes doing work on a possible release of the tune, originally titled "Don't Hurt My Little Sister"...Something that never panned out. But, no mention was made of any other artists.. I have reason to believe (speculate) that Spector MAY have thought about using Darlene Love on the cut, pre-Blossoms/ EEOC...I have an acetate of the instrumental track that Spector cut for "Don't Hurt My Little Sister" (later to be used by EEOC), and on the label is printed "Little Sister - D. Love" and "Mar. '65"...At least we can conclude WHEN the track was cut. To Carol Kaye: Do you have any recollection of being part of that session? Sorry if I'm repeating a question that someone asked you previously...My brain cells are slowly deteriorating. Mark Phil Spector Label Gallery at http://www.toltbbs.com/~msland/Spector --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Subject: Paper Dolls Received: 11/05/99 6:58 am From: iandrew, iaxxxxx.net To: Spectropop List, spectxxxxxities.com Will Stos wrote:- > Can anyone give me some info on the Paper Dolls (the > British girl group)? Hi Will, The trio was lead singer Suzi "Tiger" Mathis, Pauline "Spyder" Bennett and Sue "Copper" Marshall. Their first 45, "Something Here In My Heart (Keeps Telling Me No)" on the Pye label, went to #11 in the UK chart in '68, and spawned an album, "Paper Dolls House" (the hit, a couple of originals, mostly covers). For a short time, they had a pretty high profile, with some sharp marketing (Paper Doll toys, books etc), but no further chart action. They had two more Pye 45s, "My Life"/"There's Nobody I'd Sooner Love", and "Someday"/"All The Time In The World". Neither as strong as the hit, but "There's Nobody I'd Sooner Love" is pretty cute, and some UK Brit girl collectors may know an earlier version of "All The Time In The World" by Stevie Kimble. The Dolls moved on to RCA in '70 for 2 more singles, a dull version of "My Boyfriend's Back", and the bouncier "Remember December", and that was it. Some of their sides have appeared on Sequel's "Here Come The Girls" series, and readers may be interested in this quote from the liner notes of the latest (and last) volume, #10: "We heard some wild stories about the Dolls recently but can't reprint them here in case we end up having to pay our own legal costs". Make of that what you will! (Little-known fact: In 1980, Suzi Mathis was the vocal coach for the St. Winifred's School Choir and their irksome freak #1 hit "There's No-One Quite Like Grandma". Forgive me, UK readers, for reminding you of this!!) Ian Chapman --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Subject: Re: THE COOKIES - I NEVER DREAMED Received: 11/05/99 6:58 am From: CHRIS KING, cxxxxxnet.co.uk To: Spectropop List, spectxxxxxities.com Greetings all. I need your help. I absolutely adore The Cookies skyscrapingly majestic 'I Never Dreamed' & although I have it on CD, I desperately want a copy on 7" vinyl 45, so I can play it out when I DJ. Do any of you have a copy I could buy? If not, can you please point me in the direction of somewhere I may be able to pick up the track on vinyl? Many, many thanks in advance, yours hopefully, Chris. PS: I am also desperate to acquire the following 45's:- The Shirelles - Groovy Guy The Sherry's - That Boy Of Mine The Lollipops - Step Aside Baby Carolyn Carter - I'm Thru --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Subject: Susan Rafey in the Liquid Room Received: 11/05/99 6:58 am From: iandrew, iaxxxxx.net To: Spectropop List, spectxxxxxities.com David Ponak wrote:- > 3.Susan Rafey-The Big Hurt > Hurt So Bad (Verve) Hi David, Nice to see Susan Rafey's "Hurt So Bad" getting some exposure. A great uptempo version of the Little Anthony song, with a strong vocal. Recommend to anyone who likes white girl northern soul.....in the same class as Nancy Ames' "I Don't Want To Talk About It". (Should go down well at "Da Doo Ron Ron", Chris) Ian Chapman --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Subject: Re: Shonen Knife Received: 11/05/99 6:58 am From: Stewart Mason, flaxxxxx.com To: Spectropop List, spectxxxxxities.com At 09:51 PM 11/3/99 +0900, Spectropop List wrote: >Thanks to David Young, I just found a Shonen Knife >Christmas single called Space Christmas on red vinyl >with a pic sleeve. This is a hoot; I fell in love with >it instantly. > >Has anyone else heard this and if so, do any of their >other recordings come across so cute? Occasionally, they're quite cute -- on individual songs like "Riding on the Rocket," especially its English-language remake -- but for the most part, Shonen Knife are a fairly standard bubblegum-punk trio, poppy but still quite noisy at times. There's a definite element of deliberate camp in everything they do; they're quite aware that it's just adorable for grown women (their first record came out in 1983!) to be singing about jelly beans and choco bars, and they play up their human-Sanrio-character quality, but there's also a vaguely unsettling quality to some of their songs ("Twist Barbie," etc.) that's also quite deliberate. Their English debut, LET'S KNIFE (Virgin, 1992), is a good introduction, featuring remakes of a lot of their classic early songs. Stewart ****************************FLAMINGO RECORDS**************************** Stewart Allensworth Mason Box 40172 "No, you may not use that in your Albuquerque NM 87196 .sig quote." www.rt66.com/~flamingo **********************HAPPY MUSIC FOR NICE PEOPLE*********************** --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Subject: RE: Shonen Knife, "Space Christmas". Received: 11/05/99 6:58 am From: George Ojisan xxxxxhlink.net> To: Spectropop List, spectxxxxxities.com I read the mailing list as often as I can. I don't have much time to "jump in" and follow thru on threads but, it's really great here. I wanted to comment on John Rausch' discovery of the Shonen Knife Christmas Single: john rausch xxxxx.net> wrote: > ....I just found a Shonen Knife Christmas single called > Space Christmas on red vinyl with a pic sleeve. This is a > hoot; I fell in love with it instantly. It does have that charm, John.... > The 45 label is a send up of the Capitol swirl label and > the pic sleeve is a tribute to the Phil Spector xmas ep > sleeve. It even says "A Shonen Knife Christmas Record For > You" The b side has a Christmas message from all the > girls in the band resembling the Phil Spector spoken > track at the end of his xmas lp. It even has some samples > from that lp at the beginning and again at the end. Very true. Isn't it amazing that all of those elements of classic U.S. Pop were recognized, if you will...in a recording from (3) girls in Japan...in this one single release! It charted well on the College Charts here in the U.S. and it was "Rodney's Pick to Click" at Christmastime on KROQ in L.A.. that year. (1991) And, it also charted at #1 in the U.K.. I can't imagine Christmas now, without: "I'm waiting for Santa Claus. he's riding on a Bison Sleigh. I'm waiting for Christmas gift I wanna get a Space Ship!" If you listen to the "Shonen Knife Christmas Message '91" a little closer... you'll notice there's ALSO a definite tie-in with the Beatles' very first Christmas Message to their Fan Club. It's a revelation to hear Shonen Knife do the bit in their best Japanese-english Holiday Spirit ("Hello-o-o... this is Naoko speaking to you in English!") and then listen to the Beatles early creation. The "parts" are even assigned with the girls in the Knife, much as they were with the Beatles. And it all works terrifically, because Shonen Knife are totally natural in the role - it becomes an all-new creation with them. Their fans in that era would throw Jelly Beans (Jerry Beans...) on stage during their live shows even as fans of the Beatles had done in their early appearances. So, I thought you would enjoy knowing that facet of "Space Christmas" from Shonen Knife. For years, my favorite Pop Christmas Record was Ray Stevens', "Santa Claus Is Watchin' You" I think it was the Tuba Player that made it click but after I heard "Space Christmas" by Shonen Knife and saw all the elements of the "best of rock n roll christmas" packaged into this one production - it became my "must-play" Christmas record. > I don`t know if these girls are trying to be campy > or if it just comes across that way to American ears but > this is really a great treat. Has anyone else heard this > and if so, do any of their other recordings come across > so cute? Many of their recordings are very cute. If "campy" can be applied to three former office workers from Osaka, Japan who decided to "do something more fun than business" with their lives, started a rock band and taught themselves to play - that's fine. The thing is - they write good melody, celebrate the little things and challenges in life that make it all fun, and deliver it live on stage with a power punch. If that sounds like a glowing testimonial, then I accept the charge. *smile* I feel Shonen Knife are one of the great girl groups, for so many reasons. Many of their CDs, certainly from their years on Virgin, including "Let's Knife", "Rock Animals" and "Birds and the B Sides" are available. One of the best recorded Shonen Knife mixes is their cover version of the Carpenters' "Top of the World" - quite amazing sonically and in its appeal. That version has legs of its own: It was used in the recent Disney (remake) Film, "Parent Trap" and previously in the tag for the film "The Last Supper." Microsoft used this recording for a television commercial, launching their Internet Explorer... back in 1995. (My compliments to the Chef on this track!) Hope this background is helpful, and accurate with the many knowledgeable people here on the mailing list who also know of the band. I enjoy the Spectropop list. It's always a good read!! dewa mata, George "Ojisan" Handlon Coordinator, Knife Collectors ~ N. America The Shonen Knife NeXuS http://home.earthlink.net/~gwiz/ShonenLA.html --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Subject: Shonen Knife Xmas 45 Received: 11/05/99 6:58 am From: Glenn Sadin & Mariko Kusumoto, glenn_mxxxxxhlink.net To: Spectropop List, spectxxxxxities.com John sez re: Shonen Knife Xmas 45: >The 45 label is a send up of the Capitol swirl label and >the pic sleeve is a tribute to the Phil Spector xmas ep >sleeve. It even says "A Shonen Knife Christmas Record >For You" The b side has a Christmas message from all the >girls in the band resembling the Phil Spector spoken >track at the end of his xmas lp. Actually, the spoken word flip is a direct cop of the Beatles' Xmas singles that were sent to their fan club. But you're right, it IS a fab Xmas single! Glenn Glenn Sadin Read about Japanese pop from the '50s & '60s! NIHON NO POPS: http://home.earthlink.net/~glenn_mariko/nihon.htm --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Subject: Re: Japanese Girl Pop Received: 11/05/99 6:58 am From: Jamie LePage, spectxxxxxities.com To: Spectropop List, spectxxxxxities.com john rausch xxxxx.net> wrote: > I just found a Shonen Knife Christmas single called Space > Christmas...The b side has a Christmas message from all > the girls in the band resembling the Phil Spector spoken > track at the end of his xmas lp. Hi John. Wow! I am so happy you liked this. It's really neat that you (train) spotted all the Spector references. You missed one, though. In the runoff groove is etched "Phil and Annette", the first of many SK vinyl records to have a hidden message in the runoff groove. The parody of Spector's spoken track actually begins when the "Silent Night" piano loop starts. Before that, the script is nearly a word-for-word parody of another spoken word Xmas recording - the Beatles' 1963 Xmas fan club record! > this is really a great treat. Has anyone else heard this > and if so, do any of their other recordings come across > so cute As far as their other records, "Let's Knife" is probably most representative of their punk/pop sound, but for Spectropoppers, I would recommend the album "Birds & B-sides". The album is wildly uneven but its high points merit the recommendation. Take a look at these quotes from AMG regarding the album: > "Birds & The B-Sides (1996) - 18 odds and ends from the > Shonen Knife '90s catalog [including] contributions to > tribute albums to the Carpenters, Beach Boys, and Nilsson. > ...fanatics will appreciate the thoughtfully assembled, > thoroughly annotated collection of these rarities...The > covers (especially of "Heatwave" and the Beach Boys' > "Don't Hurt My Little Sister") generally outpace the > original material, which doesn't vary as much as it could > or should. -- Richie Unterberger, All-Music Guide". Indeed, the covers are the highlights, including a cover of the Nilsson penned Ronettes side "Paradise". And, the arrangement on "Don't Hurt..." resembles "Things Are Changing" more than it does the BBs. The "Vivaldi Vibe" remake of their original "Little Tree" is a nod-and-a-wink to Bob Crewe's "Dawn (Go Away)". But as to their later records, caveat emptor. More from AMG: > "Happy Hour (1998) - A little Shonen Knife goes a > long way, and what seemed so exuberant and > irresistible on earlier efforts like Let's Knife > now feels cloying and stale; the Shonen Knife > aesthetic has become pure formula, and the joke > just isn't that funny anymore. -- Jason Ankeny, > All-Music Guide" Thank you for your post on this single! All the best, Jamie n.p. The John Barrett Tapes - The Beatles --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- End
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