__________________________________________________________ __________ __________ __________ __________ __________ S P E C T R O P O P __________ __________ __________ __________________________________________________________ Volume #0331 October 13, 1999 __________________________________________________________ Positively the MostSubject: "Calif. Girls" Received: 10/11/99 11:11 pm From: Carol Kaye, caroxxxxxhlink.net To: Spectropop List, spectxxxxxities.com >Speaking of many takes, Carol Kaye, did you play on >"California Girls"? I have a *take 44* (yes, 44!) on tape. >Do you know if that was the final one or if Brian >continued with even more takes? I don't remember it being that many takes but maybe it was, Brian did work us long on 1 tune for 3 hours. I do remember the 30-some takes with Phil Spector tho'. I know Brian was very happy with the way I played bass on "California Girls" (I played this lick on the VH-1 documentary that Alan Boyd produced about the Beach Boys - along with the "Good Vibrations" lick, explaining how they were really a jazz feel). Carol Kaye http://www.carolkaye.com/ --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Subject: (Re) Paris Sisters Received: 10/11/99 1:13 am From: J. H. Ket, hxxxxxunet.nl To: Spectropop List, spectxxxxxities.com Jamie LePage wrote: >>Does anyone know anything about the Paris Sisters LP "Sing >>THE Glass House" on Unifilms? > >Never heard this particular Paris Sisters record, which is >actually called 'The Paris Sisters sing from "The Glass >House"'. Anyone heard this? Here's some information about the Paris Sisters sing from the "Glass House". (unifilms records #505) Arranger: M. Curb Engineers: Doc Seigal & Richie Podler Produced bij: G.P. IV Released (probably begin) 66 side 1 1. Can't help falling in love (Weiss/Creatore/Peretti) 2. Together (P. Paris) 3. The best part of it is (P. Paris) 4. You went your way (P. Paris) 5. Your own Glass House (P. Paris) side 2 6. Yesterday (Lennon/McCartney) 7. How can you know my love (P. Paris) 8. Help me (M. Curb) 9. Our own way (P. Paris) 10 There's so much about my baby that I love (Kolber/Keller) Though the album "ansich" is nothing special, it is very much the Paris Sisters and stand good between "Everything under the sun" and "Priscilla sings Billy". The production is more sober, but the singing is as siruppy and whispering as ever. Three of the songs (3, 05 & 9) Priscilla wrote for the televion serie "The Glass House". Confirming the cover text The Glass House was convieved and created as a kind of testament to that great majority of American youth who are courageously living up to the highest standards of learning, responsibility and concern in the their daily lives. I wonder wether they did actually sing in this series. ( to my knowledge the serie was never broadcast on dutch tv.). The cover is designed in, and the sisters are dressed in pink and green (bubblegum) colours and are sitting on a camera lorry in a tv/movie studio. Song 10 is a kind of remake of "I love how you love me". I like the album. Friendly greetings Hans Ket --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Subject: Carol & Gold Star Received: 10/12/99 8:37 am From: john rausch,xxxxx.net To: Spectropop List, spectxxxxxities.com Hi Carol, Thanks for the great stories and insight on the Spector Gold Star days. I could read that stuff all night. What a wonderful moment in history it must have been (although no one probably thought so at the time - "just another session"). But you said everyone knew that the Righteous Bros. song was going to be a hit. Were there any other recording dates when you knew what you were playing on was going to be a smash hit?...or how about one that you DID think was going to be big and ended up being a dud? John Rausch Phil Spector`s Wall Of Sxxxxxp://members.tripod.com/~rauschj/ --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Subject: Diane Renay Received: 10/12/99 8:37 am From: john rausch,xxxxx.net To: Spectropop List, spectxxxxxities.com Hi Diane, Thanks for some stories behind the pics I put up from People mag. Just wondering tho...When with the Supremes, was Diane Ross as hard to get along with as history makes her out to be? No need to dish any dirt, just thought I`d ask someone from a first hand experience. Also,where can one find a copy of the Navy Blue (dance version) you did in `87? --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Subject: Joey Stec & Lee Mallory.. Received: 10/13/99 2:48 am From: Joe Foster, joe.fxxxxxtion.co.uk To: Spectropop List, spectxxxxxities.com Hi to everyone...Joey Stec & Lee Mallory, late of the Millennium & Sagittarius, will be playing an acoustic show at the Lost & Found, Grand St. North Beach San Francisco on october 28th....they are performing some killer versions of Millennium classics in their set....well worth going to see I would say! Best regards to you all....Joe Foster --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Subject: Rare Phil Received: 10/13/99 2:48 am From: Ian Chapman, iaxxxxxalnet.co.uk To: Spectropop List, spectxxxxxities.com Francesc Sole wrote: >CHICO'S GIRL >take 1 >take 2- vocal take stereo >take 2- vocal take mono Hi Francesc, What a mouth-watering track list! But the revelation for me was that there exists a Spector-produced verson of " Chico's Girl"! Can you tell us if it's by the Ronettes, Crystals or Darlene?? Ian --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Subject: Re: Rare Phil Received: 10/11/99 11:11 pm From: Francesc Sole, xxxxx.es To: Spectropop, spectxxxxxities.com Friends, Thanks to everybody for the interest about my "Rare Phil" post. About River Deep Mountain High, I'm sorry, this was a mismatch. The takes on the tape are 1 to 18. And Phil is instructing Earl, not Carol about the rhythm. >Is this the same song that "The Girls" released on Capitol >in 65-66, produced by Steve Douglas? Oops, I don't have that one, but I tried to discern the lyrics. Something like this: Chico has a jacket, that's his tiger on the back. His neighborhood's a jungle so he travels with the pack. When folks say he's bad like they always do I get so mad 'cause I know it really ain't true. Hope this helps. Francesc --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Subject: Re: Rare Phil / "Snowbug" (new High Llamas album) Received: 10/11/99 11:11 pm From: Larry Koch, xxxxxrlog.com To: Spectropop List, spectxxxxxities.com Tobias: >On another, but sort of related note, I bought a Walker >Brothers compilation today titled "After The Lights Go Out". >All great Spector-ish stuff of course, although Scott >Walker's theatrical voice gets on my nerves after too many >songs in a row. It's too goth :) ^^^^^ Except that in those days it was called existential angst :) Who produced that stuff - was it Wally Stott? [Snowbug] >It is definitely >a High Llamas record - a cross between "Hawaii" and "Santa >Barbara" maybe, but sounding quite a lot like Milton >Nascimento's "Courage" (thank you, Larry :)). Thanks. Speaking of Bituca (Milton's nickname to his friends, meaning something like "Stumpy" (he's rather short)), has there ever been any discussion of Creed Taylor on this list? Larry --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Subject: Jan Berry in the studio Received: 10/11/99 11:11 pm From: Michael B Kelly, docxxxxx.com To: Spectropop List, spectxxxxxities.com Carol, Can you talk about Jan Berry in the studio? And Dean? For example, Bones Howe told me that Jan tried overdubbingn Hal on drums, but couldn't get the effect he wanted. So he had Hal and Earl both on sessions. Then Hal told me that he and Earl would work out the drum part, then write it out and play simultaneously. "Drag City" is a prime example I was given. Was Jan like Brian, or more like Phil? Thanks. Doc --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Subject: shut down Phil Received: 10/11/99 11:11 pm From: WASE RADIO,xxxxxt.org To: Spectropop List, spectxxxxxities.com To Carol Kaye: Concerning Phil Spector: I read somewheres that in 1965 the Los Angeles musicians union shut down Phil's operation for violating union rules. With Phil's penchant for controversy, I wouldn't be surprised. By the way fantastic post on Phil's echo overkill. Michael G. Marvin WASE radio --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Subject: Went to a record fair... Received: 10/11/99 1:13 am From: Pacific Ocean Bluto, wuxxxxxet.se To: Spectropop List, spectxxxxxities.com ...and bought some LPs you might or might not find interesting. *Carpenters - Now & Then (1973) I don't know what to think of this record. Some of the more typical Carpenters songs are fantastic, but Side 2... it's put together as a *really* embarrassing phone-in radio show, and the arrangements of a few songs (guitar solos on a Carpenters record?!?!?!?!) sound just horrible. I really love the "Close To You" LP, but they seem to have lost it majorly after its release..."Don't Cry For Me Argentina" off 1977's "Passage" comes to mind, *shuddering with horror*... *William Steinberg and the Pittsburgh Symphony Orchestra - Aaron Copland's "Billy The Kid" and "Appalachian Spring" Not really this listy, but I guess Copland influenced people like Van Dyke Parks quite a lot...it's got the two pieces on one side each of the LP. Both are very very good. I wouldn't really call it "classical", it's more like American, *very* American, symphonic music in the light idiom. (if that makes sense: "light music" is a term that is used in classical and art music to describe pieces that have more in common with 'popular music' than art, while still retaining the 'classical' or 'symphonic' feel or structure) Randy Newman's first album sounds quite a lot like Copland, btw. The orchestral stuff, that is. *Beach Boys - Surfin' Safari (1962) *Beach Boys - Surfin' USA (1963) Both are in mint condition, surprisingly. I had never heard them before, so I was really excited at first. I don't know...all the actual Beach Boys surf songs, with vocals and music by Brian, are great, but the countless and endless instrumental "surf jams" sound hopefully dated , not mention silly, weak, and embarrassing! But "The Lonely Sea" is still one of Brian's best songs ever, and that's a single reason for buying "Surfin' USA". *Burt Bacharach - In Concert (1974) Has anyone seen Bacharach live? This LP sounds pretty much the same as his own studio LPs, but with crowd noise: pretty radical reworkings of all the hits. The performance is of course faultless, but it would probably sound better if you were there and watched Burt at the grand piano, conducting the large orchestra. Incidentally, I have a bootleg from a show he did in Gainsville, Florida last year, and it is much more interesting. Burt totally deconstructed the songs and put them together in a very strange way, that isn't so far away from the Beach Boys' " Smile". Bizarre medleys with abrupt stop-start moments... plus a gorgeous version of "That's What Friends Are For". *Fifth Dimension - Earthbound (1975) *Fifth Dimension - Individually & Collectively (1972) I hadn't heard of "Earthbound" before, which is surprisingly produced by Jimmy Webb. In 1975! Webb's own songs are great, but most of the album isn't very good at all. Bland mid-seventies funk, yuck. It's like they tried really hard sounding 'black' (as they were accused of sounding "too white"), but there's not much soul in the voices and music. The vocals lack the arrangements of Bob Alcivar or Webb himself. *Great* synthesizer sounds though, from moogs and ARPs I guess. "Individually..." is better, but not much. The compilers of the 2-CD 5D set did a good job with selecting the few good songs of the album, namely "Last Night I Didn't Get To Sleep At All" and "If I Could Reach You". It's the material which isn't as good as on the previous records, but the performance sounds quite uninspired too. *Sunshine Company - Happy Is This one looked really interesting but sounds, uh, not really interesting :). It's got covers of the Beatles' "Rain", Curt Boetcher's "I Just Want To Be Your Friend", Webb's "Up Up And Away", Roger Nichols' "Just Beyond Your Smile" and more. Joey Stec, was this band friends with you and Boettcher? Do you know why they decided to cover a Millennium song? My fingers ache. T. --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- End
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