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  • From: The Spectropop Group
  • Date: 10/11/99

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       Volume #0331                        October 13, 1999   
                        Positively the Most                   
    Subject:     "Calif. Girls"
    Received:    10/11/99 11:11 pm
    From:        Carol Kaye,
    To:          Spectropop List,
    >Speaking of many takes, Carol Kaye, did you play on 
    >"California Girls"? I have a *take 44* (yes, 44!) on tape. 
    >Do you know if that was the final one or if Brian 
    >continued with even more takes?
    I don't remember it being that many takes but maybe it was, 
    Brian did work us long on 1 tune for 3 hours. I do 
    remember the 30-some takes with Phil Spector tho'. 
    I know Brian was very happy with the way I played bass on 
    "California Girls" (I played this lick on the VH-1 
    documentary that Alan Boyd produced about the Beach Boys -
    along with the "Good Vibrations" lick, explaining how they 
    were really a jazz feel). 
    Carol Kaye
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    Subject:     (Re) Paris Sisters
    Received:    10/11/99 1:13 am
    From:        J. H. Ket,
    To:          Spectropop List,
    Jamie LePage wrote:
    >>Does anyone know anything about the Paris Sisters LP "Sing
    >>THE Glass House" on Unifilms?
    >Never heard this particular Paris Sisters record, which is
    >actually called 'The Paris Sisters sing from "The Glass 
    >House"'. Anyone heard this? 
    Here's some information about the Paris Sisters  sing from the "Glass 
    House". (unifilms records #505)
    Arranger: M. Curb
    Engineers: Doc Seigal & Richie Podler
    Produced bij: G.P. IV
    Released (probably begin) 66
    side 1
    1. Can't help falling in love (Weiss/Creatore/Peretti)
    2. Together (P. Paris)
    3. The best part of it is (P. Paris)
    4. You went your way (P. Paris)
    5. Your own Glass House (P. Paris)
    side 2
    6. Yesterday (Lennon/McCartney)
    7. How can you know my love (P. Paris)
    8. Help me (M. Curb)
    9. Our own way (P. Paris)
    10 There's so much about my baby that I love (Kolber/Keller)
    Though the album "ansich" is nothing special, it is very 
    much the Paris Sisters and stand good between "Everything 
    under the sun" and "Priscilla sings Billy". The production
    is more sober, but the singing is as siruppy and whispering
    as ever. Three of the songs (3, 05 & 9) Priscilla wrote for 
    the televion serie "The Glass House". Confirming the cover
    text The Glass House was convieved and created as a kind of
    testament to that great majority of American youth who are 
    courageously living up to the highest standards of 
    learning, responsibility and concern in the their daily 
    lives. I wonder wether they did actually sing in this 
    series. ( to my knowledge the serie was never broadcast on
    dutch tv.). The cover is designed in, and the sisters are 
    dressed in pink and green (bubblegum) colours and are 
    sitting on a camera lorry in a tv/movie studio. Song 10 is
    a kind of remake of "I love how you love me". I like the 
    Friendly greetings
    Hans Ket
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    Subject:     Carol & Gold Star
    Received:    10/12/99 8:37 am
    From:        john rausch,
    To:          Spectropop List,
    Hi Carol,
    Thanks for the great stories and insight on the Spector 
    Gold Star days.
    I could read that stuff all night. What a wonderful moment
    in history it must have been (although no one probably 
    thought so at the time - "just another session").
    But you said everyone knew that the Righteous Bros. song 
    was going to be a hit. Were there any other recording 
    dates when you knew what you were playing on was going to 
    be a smash hit?...or how about one that you DID think was 
    going to be big and ended up being a dud? 
    John Rausch
    Phil Spector`s Wall Of Sxxxxxp://
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    Subject:     Diane Renay
    Received:    10/12/99 8:37 am
    From:        john rausch,
    To:          Spectropop List,
    Hi Diane,
    Thanks for some stories behind the pics I put up from People 
    Just wondering tho...When with the Supremes, was Diane 
    Ross as hard to get along with as history makes her out to
    be? No need to dish any dirt, just thought I`d ask someone 
    from a first hand experience.
    Also,where can one find a copy of the Navy Blue (dance 
    version) you did in `87?
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    Subject:     Joey Stec & Lee Mallory..
    Received:    10/13/99 2:48 am
    From:        Joe Foster,
    To:          Spectropop List,
    Hi to everyone...Joey Stec & Lee Mallory, late of the 
    Millennium & Sagittarius, will be playing an acoustic show
    at the Lost & Found, Grand St. North Beach San Francisco on
    october 28th....they are performing some killer versions of
    Millennium classics in their set....well worth going to see
    I would say! Best regards to you all....Joe Foster 
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    Subject:     Rare Phil
    Received:    10/13/99 2:48 am
    From:        Ian Chapman,
    To:          Spectropop List,
    Francesc Sole wrote:
    >take 1
    >take 2- vocal take stereo
    >take 2- vocal take mono
    Hi Francesc,
    What a mouth-watering track list! But the revelation for 
    me was that there exists a Spector-produced verson of "
    Chico's Girl"! Can you tell us if it's by the Ronettes, 
    Crystals or Darlene??
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    Subject:     Re: Rare Phil
    Received:    10/11/99 11:11 pm
    From:        Francesc Sole,
    To:          Spectropop,
    Thanks to everybody for the interest about my "Rare Phil" 
    post. About River Deep Mountain High, I'm sorry, this was 
    a mismatch. The takes on the tape are 1 to 18. And Phil is
    instructing Earl, not Carol about the rhythm.
    >Is this the same song that "The Girls" released on Capitol 
    >in 65-66, produced by Steve Douglas?
    Oops, I don't have that one, but I tried to discern the 
    lyrics. Something like this:
    Chico has a jacket,
    that's his tiger on the back.
    His neighborhood's a jungle
    so he travels with the pack.
    When folks say he's bad
    like they always do
    I get so mad 'cause I know it really ain't true.
    Hope this helps.
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    Subject:     Re: Rare Phil / "Snowbug" (new High Llamas album)
    Received:    10/11/99 11:11 pm
    From:        Larry Koch,
    To:          Spectropop List,
    >On another, but sort of related note, I bought a Walker 
    >Brothers compilation today titled "After The Lights Go Out". 
    >All great Spector-ish stuff of course, although Scott 
    >Walker's theatrical voice gets on my nerves after too many
    >songs in a row. It's too goth :) 
    Except that in those days it was called existential angst :)
    Who produced that stuff - was it Wally Stott?
    >It is definitely 
    >a High Llamas record - a cross between "Hawaii" and "Santa
    >Barbara" maybe, but sounding quite a lot like Milton 
    >Nascimento's "Courage" (thank you, Larry :)).
    Thanks. Speaking of Bituca (Milton's nickname to his 
    friends, meaning something like "Stumpy" (he's rather 
    short)), has there ever been any discussion of Creed 
    Taylor on this list?
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    Subject:     Jan Berry in the studio
    Received:    10/11/99 11:11 pm
    From:        Michael B Kelly,
    To:          Spectropop List,
    Can you talk about Jan Berry in the studio? And Dean?
    For example, Bones Howe told me that Jan tried 
    overdubbingn Hal on drums, but couldn't get the effect he 
    wanted. So he had Hal and Earl both on sessions. Then Hal 
    told me that he and Earl would work out the drum part, 
    then write it out and play simultaneously. "Drag City" is 
    a prime example I was given.
    Was Jan like Brian, or more like Phil?
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    Subject:     shut down Phil
    Received:    10/11/99 11:11 pm
    From:        WASE RADIO,
    To:          Spectropop List,
    To Carol Kaye:
    Concerning Phil Spector: I read somewheres that in 1965  the Los
    Angeles musicians union shut down Phil's operation for violating
    union rules.  With Phil's penchant for controversy, I wouldn't be 
    By the way fantastic post on Phil's echo overkill.
    Michael G. Marvin
    WASE radio
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    Subject:     Went to a record fair...
    Received:    10/11/99 1:13 am
    From:        Pacific Ocean Bluto,
    To:          Spectropop List,
    ...and bought some LPs you might or might not find interesting.
    *Carpenters - Now & Then (1973)
    I don't know what to think of this record. Some of the 
    more typical Carpenters songs are fantastic, but Side 2...
    it's put together as a *really* embarrassing phone-in 
    radio show, and the arrangements of a few songs (guitar 
    solos on a Carpenters record?!?!?!?!) sound just horrible.
    I really love the "Close To You" LP, but they seem to have 
    lost it majorly after its release..."Don't Cry For Me 
    Argentina" off 1977's "Passage" comes to mind, *shuddering
    with horror*...
    *William Steinberg and the Pittsburgh Symphony Orchestra -
    Aaron Copland's "Billy The Kid" and "Appalachian Spring"
    Not really this listy, but I guess Copland influenced 
    people like Van Dyke Parks quite a's got the two 
    pieces on one side each of the LP. Both are very very good. 
    I wouldn't really call it "classical", it's more like 
    American, *very* American, symphonic music in the light 
    idiom. (if that makes sense: "light music" is a term that 
    is used in classical and art music to describe pieces that
    have more in common with 'popular music' than art, while 
    still retaining the 'classical' or 'symphonic' feel or 
    structure) Randy Newman's first album sounds quite a lot 
    like Copland, btw. The orchestral stuff, that is.
    *Beach Boys - Surfin' Safari (1962)
    *Beach Boys - Surfin' USA (1963)
    Both are in mint condition, surprisingly. I had never 
    heard them before, so I was really excited at first. I 
    don't know...all the actual Beach Boys surf songs, with 
    vocals and music by Brian, are great, but the countless 
    and endless instrumental "surf jams" sound hopefully dated
    , not mention silly, weak, and embarrassing! But "The 
    Lonely Sea" is still one of Brian's best songs ever, and 
    that's a single reason for buying "Surfin' USA".
    *Burt Bacharach - In Concert (1974)
    Has anyone seen Bacharach live? This LP sounds pretty much
    the same as his own studio LPs, but with crowd noise: 
    pretty radical reworkings of all the hits. The performance
    is of course faultless, but it would probably sound better 
    if you were there and watched Burt at the grand piano, 
    conducting the large orchestra. Incidentally, I have a 
    bootleg from a show he did in Gainsville, Florida last 
    year, and it is much more interesting. Burt totally 
    deconstructed the songs and put them together in a very 
    strange way, that isn't so far away from the Beach Boys' "
    Smile". Bizarre medleys with abrupt stop-start moments...
    plus a gorgeous version of "That's What Friends Are For".
    *Fifth Dimension - Earthbound (1975)
    *Fifth Dimension - Individually & Collectively (1972)
    I hadn't heard of "Earthbound" before, which is 
    surprisingly produced by Jimmy Webb. In 1975! Webb's own 
    songs are great, but most of the album isn't very good at 
    all. Bland mid-seventies funk, yuck. It's like they tried 
    really hard sounding 'black' (as they were accused of 
    sounding "too white"), but there's not much soul in the 
    voices and music. The vocals lack the arrangements of Bob 
    Alcivar or Webb himself. *Great* synthesizer sounds though, 
    from moogs and ARPs I guess.
    "Individually..." is better, but not much. The compilers 
    of the 2-CD 5D set did a good job with selecting the few 
    good songs of the album, namely "Last Night I Didn't Get 
    To Sleep At All" and "If I Could Reach You". It's the 
    material which isn't as good as on the previous records, 
    but the performance sounds quite uninspired too.
    *Sunshine Company - Happy Is
    This one looked really interesting but sounds, uh, not 
    really interesting :). It's got covers of the Beatles' 
    "Rain", Curt Boetcher's "I Just Want To Be Your Friend", 
    Webb's "Up Up And Away", Roger Nichols' "Just Beyond Your 
    Smile" and more. Joey Stec, was this band friends with you
    and Boettcher? Do you know why they decided to cover a 
    Millennium song?
    My fingers ache.
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