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Spectropop V#0323

  • From: The Spectropop Group
  • Date: 09/18/99

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       Volume #0323                            September 18, 1999   
    Devoting time and research to the development of sound recording
    Subject:     Re: The A&M Dream Team
    Received:    09/18/99 3:43 am
    From:        Andrew Sandoval, Axxxxxcom
    To:          Spectropop List,
    In a message dated 9/16/99 writes:
    > David Bash, Baxxxxxcom wrote:
    > >...[Rumors and Wait & See] would be 
    > >perfect for an A&M Records compilation of '60s material, 
    > >something which would be essential for soft pop collectors. 
    > >Who knows, maybe one of those will materialize one day :-)
    > The big question in 1999 with respect to such an A&M set 
    > is, under whose department would such a project fall? 
    > Seagram pretty much absorbed A&M into the Uni/Poly group, 
    > didn't they? Is there anyone in their organization that 
    > has a clue? 
    > Come to think of it, the people most qualified to actually 
    > do such a comp are right here on this list!
    There are also such wonderful one off singles as The 
    Garden Club "Little Girl Lost & Found" (written by Tadyn 
    Almer), very Boettcher like; The Golden Bough - a 
    brilliant Association type group, and; the London Phogg - 
    kind of a psych girl group sound with strings. Not to 
    mention the countless Merry Go Round and Boyce and Hart 
    outtakes (each has at least 10 unheard unissued cuts). 
    Nevertheless, all of those tapes have been cleared off the
    A&M lot and put in deep storage by Universal. Unless a 
    company is willing to offer them at least a 10,000 unit 
    advance (in the US), we are unlikely to see any action 
    from these tunes. An A&M compilation could maybe sell 
    about 5,000 units on a good day (with international sales 
    to boot). This idea will be a long time coming from 
    Universal in my opinion.
    Andrew Sandoval
    P.S. "Blow You A Kiss In The Wind" is owned by Boyce & 
    Hart. It is not an A&M single. It was issued after they 
    left the label. For the record, they appeared on I Dream of
    Jeannie (singing Girl I'm Out To Get You and Out And About 
    from Test Patterns), The Flying Nun (performing two 
    unissued cover tunes) and Bewitched ("Blow You A Kiss").
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    Subject:     A&M, T-Bones, Addams Family 
    Received:    09/18/99 3:43 am
    From:        Carol Kaye,
    To:          Spectropop List,
    John Rausch, to answer your questions about T-Bones and 
    Addams Family -- yes the same group (almost) of studio 
    musicians, yes I played on the them both, bass. 
    The T-Bones were really ONLY studio musicians and then 
    they had to get a "group" together to "go on the road" to 
    "be that group" (studio musicians never traveled (well, a 
    couple did I guess) as it 1. doesn't pay well, 02 . you lose
    your "place" in the studio work line-up if you do, 03 . 
    no-one wanted to be away from their families at 1/4 (or 
    less) the pay of studio work. 
    Funny thing, about the T-Bones and other groups, a few fans 
    in Japan  told me in emails recently "we knew in the 60s 
    that what we saw on-stage was NOT that group we heard on the 
    Very few American kids discerned that about any of the 
    groups they "saw"....they totally believed that who they 
    saw were indeed the musicians on the was our
    group of hit-making studio musicians who did all the 60s 
    rock-pop-funk groups' recordings, and sometimes it's hard 
    for people in the USA to know that, as they heard with 
    their "eyes" I think - TV-raised young people.
    So, like many of the so-called groups, the T-Bones, 
    Markettes, Hondells and other surf-rock groups were formed 
    *after* the recordings started to make it on the charts etc.
    I recorded for Herb Alpert who formed A&M after he left 
    Bumps Blackwell and all at Keen Records (where I first met
    Herb late 50s and even played a bar mitzvah with him in a 
    "jazz" band about 1958.....more on that later). 
    He was a very nice aware person, sort of upper 
    middle-class I think. He played some nice trumpet, nothing
    too special. That's mostly Ollie Mitchell who did the Herb 
    Alpert solos on recordings. The "vibe", Jamie, was always 
    very NICE...Herb Alpert was just terrific in producing, 
    had great ideas, and treated the musicians with great 
    respect, was great to work for. His forte was in producing, 
    and creating music styles I tho't.
    A&M later bought the former Chaplin studios, had engineer 
    Larry Levine update and design the two big studios and 
    rooms, and that became "A&M Records" but Herb exclusively 
    recorded at Gold Star Records for his first batch of big 
    hit in the 60s. Then we all recorded at A&M fine studios 
    and the dates were always very pleasant.
    Have a nice weekend everyone, 
    Carol Kaye
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    Subject:     Re: the A&M Team
    Received:    09/18/99 3:43 am
    From:        Michael Godin,
    To:          Spectropop List,
    Hi everyone on the list,
    I joined the A&M Team in 1975 and became Vice-President 
    of A&R for A&M Canada. I discovered and signed Bryan Adams
    to the label. I'm a lifelong music collector and host of an
    oldies show on both the Internet and short-wave radio, 
    Treasure Island Oldies Show, well into its 3rd year. I 
    think that it would take a former A&R staffer to get in 
    contact with someone who is in charge of master tape 
    library to compile a suggested CD release of rare A&M 
    sides like The Parade, Shango, Abaco Dream, Boyce & Hart, 
    etc. They would probably be more knowledgeable about the 
    relevancy of the back catalogue for potential re-release 
    than a twenty-something staffer at Universal who would not
    be familiar with that material. Also need to bear in mind 
    that some of the A&M catalogue was licensed from Island 
    Records in the UK before they had their own presence as a 
    label in the US and Canada. However now that all of that 
    is owned by Universal, it would not be too difficult to 
    have a cross-label series of re-issues.
    Anyway, just a thought. Hope you can find the time to have
    a listen to Treasure Island Oldies Show, either archived 
    and available 24/7 or live Sundays from 6 to 10 p.m. 
    Pacific time at
    Thanks, and glad to be part of this list!
    Michael Godin
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    Subject:     EASY PHIL
    Received:    09/18/99 3:43 am
    From:        Warren Cosford,
    To:          Spectropop,
    >Phil also made a cameo appearance in a major motion
    >picture that many people associate with the 60's, Easy
    >Rider. He was good friends at the time with actor Dennis
    >Hopper, who has a featured role in the film.
    I'm sure I read somewhere that Hopper said he put Phil in 
    the film to "literally" "shut him up for once".. Phil's 
    role was "non speaking"
    Phil appears at the very beginning of the movie, playing 
    the role of a drug dealer. He is seated in the back seat 
    of a car, and the chauffeur is played by Phil's chauffeur 
    in real life. 
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    Subject:     Joey Stec, welcome to the soft world redux
    Received:    09/18/99 3:43 am
    From:        DJ JimmyB, DJJimxxxxxcom
    To:          Spectropop List,
    In a message dated 9/16/99 2:24:11 PM, you wrote:
    >By way of introduction, I was in the Millennium, 
    >Sagittarius, Blues Magoos, etc.
    Hey Joey! Welcome to the soft world redux. Did you record 
    "Five O'clock In The Morning" with Millennium? I love that 
    song. And when you say etc. at the end of the bands you 
    were in, what or for whom does etc. stand?...
    backatcha, Jimmy Botticelli/"Jimmy's Easy" airs on WMBR-FM
    ,. Cambridge at MIT, 88.1 on Tuesdays from 6-8am. Download
    Real Audio and hear us in Real Time at 
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    Subject:     Joey, Welcome!!!
    Received:    09/18/99 3:43 am
    From:        Big L,
    To:          Spectropop List,
    >By way of introduction, I was in the Millennium, 
    >Sagittarius, Blues Magoos, etc.
    Welcome!!! To this day, "We Ain't Got Nothin' Yet" is one 
    of my favorite songs. That thing just rocks, and typifies 
    January 1967 for me in a way that no other song does.
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    Subject:     records out of Cincy
    Received:    09/18/99 3:43 am
    From:        Billy G. Spradlin,
    To:          Spectropop List,
    I just read David's review and I'm also interested in this
    CD. Is there any Girl Group material on this CD?
    I just picked up "Where the Girls Are... Volume 2" on Ace.
    There are two good tracks by a Cincinnati Girl Group called
    The Teardrops ("You Wont Be There" and "A Change Of Heart" 
    which sounds like a early take of "You Wont.."). The notes
    state that the records were originally released on Saxony 
    records out of Cincy and later released by Musicor. The 
    production on both tracks is "Kitchen Sink on a Budget" 
    and I'm wondering if this Clem Comstock produced this 
    BTW: This CD is mostly R&B material...not Pop, even though
    there are some catchy songs here and there, some of the 
    songs deserved not to be hits or should have stayed "in 
    the can"...
    I guess when it comes to 60's female R&B I like mine with 
    a Motown (Marvellettes/Vandellas/Supremes) flavor. I've 
    gotten the idea that Ace and Sequel are having trouble 
    selling girl group comps in the UK and are adding more 
    hardcore R&B tracks on these CD's to appeal to the 
    "Northern Soul" crowd!
    Billy G. Spradlin
    29 Rim Road
    Kilgore, Texas 75662
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    Subject:     Re: The Phil Spector Of Cincinnati
    Received:    09/18/99 3:43 am
    From:        David Bash, Baxxxxxcom
    To:          Spectropop List,
    >  At, I read about the most IN-teresting 
    >  reissue I've heard of in a long time: "Where Has the Music
    >  Gone? The Lost Recordings of Clem Comstock" These appear to
    >  be lost gems from the mid sixties, recorded in the 
    >  Cincinnati area and produced by the euphoniously-named 
    >  Clem Comstock. But what REALLY got my interest was that Mr. 
    >  Comstock was supposedly known as "The Phil Spector of 
    >  Cincinnati." Honest? Really? Just what is meant by such a 
    >  moniker? That he was an egomaniacal s.o.b. who ripped off 
    >  his artists, or that he created immense sonic panoramas 
    >  with lots of sleigh bells and castanets? I believe it was 
    >  our own David Bash who wrote the [favorable] review, and I
    >  wonder if he might be coaxed into adding a few words about 
    >  what these recordings sound like. Maybe some name-checks 
    >  ("song x sounds a lot like Peanut's Home of the Brave," 
    >  etc.) to help a dolt like me understand what I'd be getting 
    >  into? I'd appreciate it a lawt. 
    >  jack "the phil spector of ton def" madani
    Hi Ton Def,
    Thank you very much for reading my review! I have to tell 
    you though, so that you and other Spector fans don't get 
    too excited, that the Clem Comstock CD is a total hoax 
    perpetrated by contemporary artist Roger Klug, who, along 
    with his wife, decided it would be a lot of fun to see if 
    he could write songs authentic enough to fool people into 
    thinking they were from the '60s. Benevolent soul that he 
    is, he never intended to take the joke very far, and would
    have been ready to admit to anyone that he was just having 
    At any rate, the songs are very good and are very well 
    executed '60s parodies. There are subtle hints throughout 
    the disc that the songs, in fact, were written today. For 
    example, one of the songs is entitled "Sport Utility 
    Vehicle". As my good friend and Spectropop member Jeff 
    Glenn points out, the phrase "sport utility vehicle" 
    wasn't in use in the '60s. Plus, some of the artists names
    are a bit too campy to have been real (e.g. Gary Cilantro, 
    Jerry Cacicatore, The United Federation of Brotherhood and
    Sisterhood). The recordings, when you listen to them 
    closely, don't really sound like they're from the '60s, as
    they're a bit too clean and advanced. Nevertheless, he does
    get it pretty close.
    In writing my review, I decided to play along with the gag
    and act ignorant (some might say I'm not acting), although 
    I did drop a few "in joke" lines that might have given the
    truth away, for example:
    1. "you'll be struck by Comstock's prescience, as it will 
    seem like he was somehow able to get a glimpse into the 
    future and glean some of its techniques".
    2. "Comstock's acumen in arrangement and his facility with
    the knobs propel the performances to anachronistic 
    3. "The whereabouts of Clem Comstock are unknown at the 
    present time, but if there is such a phenomenon as the 
    transmigration of souls, it wouldn't be a stretch to say 
    that the soul of Comstock exists in some free thinking, 
    melody craving producer of today"
    I guess even these are a bit too subtle for someone who 
    wasn't in on the joke.
    The bottom line is, while there may have never been a Clem
    Comstock, and therefore no "Phil Spector Of Cincinnati", 
    the "Where Has All The Music Gone?: The Lost Recordings Of
    Clem Comstock" is a wonderful parody and a disc that 60s 
    fans will love.
    Spectropop Rules!!!!!
    Take Care,
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    Subject:     question for Joe Foster
    Received:    09/18/99 3:43 am
    From:        Randolf Kajagoogoo,
    To:          Spectropop List,
    Joe Foster, this question is completely off-topic, so you
    should maybe reply in private to me, it Rev-Ola or
    Creation which will release the forthcoming My Bloody 
    Valentine 'best of' CD with previously unreleased 
    "Loveless" tracks? It was quite the buzz on the MBV-list a 
    while back. I hope you don't take eight years to release 
    this compilation, though :-)
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