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Spectropop V#0317

  • From: The Spectropop Group
  • Date: 09/05/99

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       Volume #0317                       September 6, 1999   
               The new direction for the new sounds           
    Subject:     "Rosecrans Blvd"
    Received:    09/05/99 11:24 pm
    From:        Scott Bauman,
    To:          Spectropop List,
    Mr. LePage wrote:
    >Manhattan Beach is a popular Orange County coastline 
    >relatively close to the airport, spacious and clean.
    Jamie, you really need to spend more time in L.A.! 
    Manhattan Beach is in Los Angeles County, not Orange 
    Also, I'm surprised nobody has mentioned this yet, but 
    the name of the street is really Rosecrans Avenue, not 
    Rosecrans Boulevard.
    -- Scott
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    Subject:     Revola
    Received:    09/04/99 12:31 pm
    From:        Dave Mirich, Dmxxxxxcom
    To:          Spectropop List,
    Does anyone have the web address for Revola?
    Dave Mirich
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    Subject:     To Know Him Is To Love Him
    Received:    09/05/99 11:24 pm
    From:        Paul Urbahns, Pauluxxxxxcom
    To:          Spectropop List,
    If there are any various artist CD's on the market that 
    you have been wanting to buy that contain this song by 
    the Teddy Bears, better buy them now as they will probably
    go out of release when existing stocks are sold out. I have
    a few contacts in the music business and one of them told 
    me the rights to this song and the actual master (as I 
    understand it) by the Teddy Bears is now held by spector/
    abkco and no longer available for licensing. Looks like 
    Phil maybe buying up rights to his old productions so he 
    can take them out of release.
    Paul Urbahns
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    Subject:     Paris Sisters
    Received:    09/04/99 12:31 pm
    From:        xxxxxcom
    To:          Spectropop List,
    The Paris Sisters "I Love How You Love Me" that you heard 
    was probably the version that Mike Curb produced for "The 
    Golden Hits Of The Paris Sisters" LP on Sidewalk. The LP 
    was produced by Mike Curb & Clancy Grass who I think was 
    married to Priscilla. The LP is rerecordings of earlier 
    records and some originals but has a killer version of Be 
    My Boy worth the price of admission. 
    Does anyone know anything about the Paris Sisters LP "Sing
    THE Glass House" on Unifilms? Another Mike Curb production 
    with Richie Podolor & Clancy Grass.
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    Subject:     I Met Him On A Sunday/Paris Sisters
    Received:    09/04/99 12:31 pm
    From:        Stos, William,
    To:          Spectropop List,
    Hi, my enquiry is about a later version of the Paris 
    Sisters famous hit record "I Love How You Love Me". I 
    have the original already but the other day I heard an 
    almost identical version with an instrumental break in
    the middle of the song. Any ideas on where I could get this
    There's a later version of the song on one of the volumes 
    of the Girl Group Sound:Darlings of the 60s. That could be
    it! Very close to the original except for that change.
    In response to the other version of I Met Him On A Sunday,
    many girl groups performed the song since it was very 
    popular and easy to do. The Shirelles recorded a version 
    almost 10 years later called I met Him On A Sunday '66. 
    It's more Spectoresque than the original. Could that be it?
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    Subject:     Info on "I Met Him On A Sunday" & Girls
    Received:    09/04/99 12:31 pm
    From:        Jimmy Cresitelli, Jimxxxxxcom
    To:          Spectropop List,
    There's an original version of the song that I have on a 
    Decca 45RPM. Much starker, very raw and "doo-wop." You 
    really can tell that the girls wrote it and recorded it 
    (practically!) on their own-- it's very honest and 
    charming.The remake from the late 60s (I think that's the 
    time frame) is more "Spectorian." I love those Shirelles. 
    Great songs; it's a same their management apparently 
    screwed them over. They worked very, very hard all those 
    years, touring their legs off... And they always seemed 
    more "grown up" than the other groups. Those late 50s 
    girl-groups all did, actually; the Chantels etc. When you 
    compare voices and group pics to girl groups from 1963-64,
    many of them seem and sound much younger in my opinion: 
    babies in beehives! (What a great title for a study of 
    early 60s girl-group pop.) Of course, too, 1962-1963 was 
    the heyday of the high-pitched voice... witness the 
    closing note on "I Had A Dream." Mirabile visu!
    Y'all in the USA have a great Labor Day weekend!
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    Subject:     Laura Nyro's "It's Gonna Take a Miracle" album
    Received:    09/04/99 12:31 pm
    From:        David Feldman,
    To:          Spectropop List,
    Robert Bates, a prince among men, says:
    > I'm sure you're all familiar with the Shirelles song "I 
    > Met Him on a Sunday" -- at least the one that was on the 
    > Rhino Records girl groups comp. A neighbor of mine had a 
    > version of that song that was ten times better than that 
    > one, on an old record. (I forgot how it was better -- I 
    > just remember it was.) Anyone know any information about 
    > this, or where I can find it?
    Might you be thinking of Laura Nyro's version (backed by 
    "Labelle," aka Patti LaBelle & the BlueBelle's) on her 
    "It's Gonna Take a Miracle" album? It's a great cover. I 
    love the original, I love Nyro's version even more. One of
    the distinctive touches of the Nyro version -- some of it 
    is a cappella.
    Dave Feldman
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    Subject:     I Met Him On A Sunday (do ronde ronde)
    Received:    09/04/99 12:31 pm
    From:        WASE RADIO,
    To:          Spectropop List,
    To Robert Bates:
    If you're thinking about the version of "I Met Him On A 
    Sunday" which has the "do ronde, do ronde ronde", it was 
    on "The Very Best of the Shirelles" released on United 
    Artists records in 1974 or 1975. During the nostalgia boom
    of the early 1970s, United Artists released a whole series 
    of albums by artist who recorded for Liberty, Imperial and
    of course United Artists. I couldn't understand why the 
    Shirelles would have an album released on that label, The 
    real oddity to the Shirelles comp is that all the songs 
    were in mono. After all "Soldier Boy", "Will You Still 
    Love Me Tomorrow" anf Foolish Little Girl" were issued in 
    stereo. Well good luck in finding it.
    Michael G. Marvin
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    Subject:     "I Met Him on a Sunday"-"My World Fell Down"
    Received:    09/04/99 12:31 pm
    From:        Billy G. Spradlin,
    To:          Spectropop List,
    Bates, Robert (Cahners-NYC), wrote:
    >I'm sure you're all familiar with the Shirelles song "I
    >Met Him on a Sunday"...A neighbor of mine had a version 
    >of that song that was ten times better...where I can find 
    Dear Rob:
    I believe the Shirelles cut 3 versions of this song. The 
    1958 original on Tiara Records (re-issued by Decca) that 
    some writer has called "The First Girl Group Record"...any
    comments? (My Guess: The Chantels "Maybe")
    Then they cut a version with a similar arrangement in the 
    early 60's as a LP track in Stereo. I don't know what 
    Scepter LP it originally came from. I have it on a budget 
    CD Compilation by Highland records.
    Then in 1966 they recut the song again as "Met Him on A 
    Sunday--'66" (Scepter 12132) in a Awesome pounding 
    Wall-of-Sound production! Its my favorite version of this 
    This could be the record you're referring to. I first 
    heard it on a United Artists "Very Best of The Shirelles" 
    LP in the 70's. My problem is that most CD re-issues I 
    have of this song use a weak sounding stereo mix. I have 
    yet to find the original mono version on CD. So you have 
    three different versions of the same song, and you never 
    know what version you're going to get when you buy one of 
    many Shirelles CD compilations out there. Too bad none of 
    their post-"Foolish Little Girl" records were hits, for 
    most of them were excellent records. I guess Scepter was 
    paying more attention to Dionne Warwick instead of the 
    group that put the company on the map. 
    Michael wrote:
    >This song was released as a single, and got some spotty
    >air play on WKLO in Louisville, but never charted. A shame.
    >A great song. I need to find that album again. It is
    >stored at my in-law's house.
    Dear Michael:
    You should get the Sundazed CD Re-issue of "Present Tense"
    because it contains the original Mono 45 Version of "My 
    World Fell Down" plus some amazing out-takes. Just my 
    Billy G. Spradlin
    29 Rim Road
    Kilgore, Texas 75662
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    Subject:     My Collage Fell Down
    Received:    09/04/99 12:31 pm
    From:        Jack Madani,
    To:          Spectropop List,
    Michael writes:
    >Years later I bought the Sagittarius album on Columbia (CS
    >9644). I listened to "My World Fell Down" which led off 
    >side two. And to my amazement, the audio collage and the 
    >slow section with the organ and vocals were missing.
    The Sundazed reissue (SC 11053) includes both the lp and 
    45 versions of that song. There are also a mess o' 
    unreleased trax and demos to round out the disc. It's a 
    heckuva record.
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    Subject:     Re:    "My World Fell Down" by Sagittarius
    Received:    09/04/99 12:31 pm
    From:        Ron Weekes,
    To:          Spectropop List,
    The version you are talking about with the audio montage 
    is the single version. The LP version does not have the 
    audio montage. Head to and buy their CD 
    of "Present Tense". It has both versions plus some other 
    great rare tracks. 
    Ron Weekes
    Landlocked in Idaho!
    The Surf and Hot Rod Sounds of Gary Usher Web Page
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    Subject:     Re: Rosecrans lyric (and various digest stuff)
    Received:    09/04/99 12:31 pm
    From:        Mr. Fulton,
    To:          Spectropop List,
    >   Volume #0316                       September 3, 1999
    >    Expressing the feelings of the young mind of today
    This is really good! Spectropop music really expresses my 
    feelings today! I don't care that everything was recorded 
    30-40 years ago - it's still new and fresh to me. For 
    example, I heard my first Four Seasons song *last week* on
    a mixtape (good one, Jack :-)). Most of the things discussed 
    on this list are recordings that I have only known about for 
    like, a year at the most, if I even have heard of it! So keep 
    those posts a-comin', listees - to quote Ralph Wiggum: "Lisa, 
    I'm leardning" [sic] :-) 
    Michael G. Marvin wrote re: the Sagittarius' "My World..."
    >Years later I bought the Sagittarius album on Columbia (CS
    >9644). I listened to "My World Fell Down" which led off
    >side two. And to my amazement, the audio collage and the
    >slow section with the organ and vocals were missing. I
    >thought I lost my mind.
    You probably already know this but you can find the single
    version on the CD-reissue of "Present Tense". 
    Harvey Williams was kind enough to post the complete 
    Rosecrans Blvd lyric, and also wrote:
    >I eagerly await your cover version!!
    Uhh...what do you mean? Can you read minds, Harvey? :-) I 
    didn't say anything in my message about covering "
    Rosecrans Blvd"! *But*, I was definitely *thinking* about 
    it earlier the same day, picking out the song on the piano
    (which I might add took over one hour; the song changes key
    several times, and some of the chords are quite odd). As a 
    matter of fact, I thought "Wouldn't it be great to do a CD
    of Spectropop-listees performing their favourite Spectropop
    songs, just like the Pet Sounds-list has succesfully done 
    with the Beach Boys' music?" What do you people think?
    Jamie LePage, in a moment of Freudian proportions, deeply 
    analysed Rosecrans' lyric, and also wrote: 
    >Hey Toby, you wrote you were disappointed with this song!
    >Starting to come around? :-)
    Actually, yes. I had only listened to the 5th Dimension's 
    version, which I still think is rather dull, but then I 
    noticed Johhny Rivers also has a version of the song on "
    The Jim Webb Songbook", and that one is fantastic! It 
    sparkles like a bottle of champagne on a New Year's eve :-) 
    Rivers' version is just more powerful and full of life 
    than the 5D's. The addition of *drums* was a great move.
    >>She was a stewardess, you know.
    >>Shot down on a non-combatant mission.
    This part is interesting. Does Webb literally mean "shot 
    down", as in being shot down with a weapon, or is he 
    speaking metaphorically about shooting the stewardess down
    by saying he doesn't love her? And what can "non-combatant 
    mission" refer too? Maybe it's just their sexual but 
    emotionally empty relationship in other words....and by 
    "shooting" her "down", he terminates their relationship for
    >As for me personally, well, I have a few "Rosecrans Blvd."
    >exit signs in my memory too.
    Do subway stations count? :-)
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