__________________________________________________________ __________ __________ __________ __________ __________ S P E C T R O P O P __________ __________ __________ __________________________________________________________ Volume #0317 September 6, 1999 __________________________________________________________ The new direction for the new soundsSubject: "Rosecrans Blvd" Received: 09/05/99 11:24 pm From: Scott Bauman, ScottBxxxxxl.msn.com To: Spectropop List, spectxxxxxities.com Mr. LePage wrote: >Manhattan Beach is a popular Orange County coastline >relatively close to the airport, spacious and clean. Jamie, you really need to spend more time in L.A.! Manhattan Beach is in Los Angeles County, not Orange County. Also, I'm surprised nobody has mentioned this yet, but the name of the street is really Rosecrans Avenue, not Rosecrans Boulevard. -- Scott --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Subject: Revola Received: 09/04/99 12:31 pm From: Dave Mirich, Dmxxxxxcom To: Spectropop List, spectxxxxxities.com Does anyone have the web address for Revola? Thanks Dave Mirich --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Subject: To Know Him Is To Love Him Received: 09/05/99 11:24 pm From: Paul Urbahns, Pauluxxxxxcom To: Spectropop List, spectxxxxxities.com If there are any various artist CD's on the market that you have been wanting to buy that contain this song by the Teddy Bears, better buy them now as they will probably go out of release when existing stocks are sold out. I have a few contacts in the music business and one of them told me the rights to this song and the actual master (as I understand it) by the Teddy Bears is now held by spector/ abkco and no longer available for licensing. Looks like Phil maybe buying up rights to his old productions so he can take them out of release. Paul Urbahns pauluxxxxxcom --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Subject: Paris Sisters Received: 09/04/99 12:31 pm From: xxxxxcom To: Spectropop List, spectxxxxxities.com The Paris Sisters "I Love How You Love Me" that you heard was probably the version that Mike Curb produced for "The Golden Hits Of The Paris Sisters" LP on Sidewalk. The LP was produced by Mike Curb & Clancy Grass who I think was married to Priscilla. The LP is rerecordings of earlier records and some originals but has a killer version of Be My Boy worth the price of admission. Does anyone know anything about the Paris Sisters LP "Sing THE Glass House" on Unifilms? Another Mike Curb production with Richie Podolor & Clancy Grass. --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Subject: I Met Him On A Sunday/Paris Sisters Received: 09/04/99 12:31 pm From: Stos, William, xxxxx.tyenet.com To: Spectropop List, spectxxxxxities.com Hi, my enquiry is about a later version of the Paris Sisters famous hit record "I Love How You Love Me". I have the original already but the other day I heard an almost identical version with an instrumental break in the middle of the song. Any ideas on where I could get this recording? There's a later version of the song on one of the volumes of the Girl Group Sound:Darlings of the 60s. That could be it! Very close to the original except for that change. In response to the other version of I Met Him On A Sunday, many girl groups performed the song since it was very popular and easy to do. The Shirelles recorded a version almost 10 years later called I met Him On A Sunday '66. It's more Spectoresque than the original. Could that be it? Will --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Subject: Info on "I Met Him On A Sunday" & Girls Received: 09/04/99 12:31 pm From: Jimmy Cresitelli, Jimxxxxxcom To: Spectropop List, spectxxxxxities.com Hi! There's an original version of the song that I have on a Decca 45RPM. Much starker, very raw and "doo-wop." You really can tell that the girls wrote it and recorded it (practically!) on their own-- it's very honest and charming.The remake from the late 60s (I think that's the time frame) is more "Spectorian." I love those Shirelles. Great songs; it's a same their management apparently screwed them over. They worked very, very hard all those years, touring their legs off... And they always seemed more "grown up" than the other groups. Those late 50s girl-groups all did, actually; the Chantels etc. When you compare voices and group pics to girl groups from 1963-64, many of them seem and sound much younger in my opinion: babies in beehives! (What a great title for a study of early 60s girl-group pop.) Of course, too, 1962-1963 was the heyday of the high-pitched voice... witness the closing note on "I Had A Dream." Mirabile visu! Y'all in the USA have a great Labor Day weekend! --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Subject: Laura Nyro's "It's Gonna Take a Miracle" album Received: 09/04/99 12:31 pm From: David Feldman, fexxxxxnderables.com To: Spectropop List, spectxxxxxities.com Robert Bates, a prince among men, says: > I'm sure you're all familiar with the Shirelles song "I > Met Him on a Sunday" -- at least the one that was on the > Rhino Records girl groups comp. A neighbor of mine had a > version of that song that was ten times better than that > one, on an old record. (I forgot how it was better -- I > just remember it was.) Anyone know any information about > this, or where I can find it? Rob, Might you be thinking of Laura Nyro's version (backed by "Labelle," aka Patti LaBelle & the BlueBelle's) on her "It's Gonna Take a Miracle" album? It's a great cover. I love the original, I love Nyro's version even more. One of the distinctive touches of the Nyro version -- some of it is a cappella. Dave Feldman Single of the Week: "One Wonderful Night (The Honeybees) CD of the Week: "Baby" (Michael Carpenter) Book of the Week: "Faster" (James Gleick) Best Gender Survey on the Net: More than 40 new questions at http://www.imponderables.com --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Subject: I Met Him On A Sunday (do ronde ronde) Received: 09/04/99 12:31 pm From: WASE RADIO,xxxxxt.org To: Spectropop List, spectxxxxxities.com To Robert Bates: If you're thinking about the version of "I Met Him On A Sunday" which has the "do ronde, do ronde ronde", it was on "The Very Best of the Shirelles" released on United Artists records in 1974 or 1975. During the nostalgia boom of the early 1970s, United Artists released a whole series of albums by artist who recorded for Liberty, Imperial and of course United Artists. I couldn't understand why the Shirelles would have an album released on that label, The real oddity to the Shirelles comp is that all the songs were in mono. After all "Soldier Boy", "Will You Still Love Me Tomorrow" anf Foolish Little Girl" were issued in stereo. Well good luck in finding it. Michael G. Marvin --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Subject: "I Met Him on a Sunday"-"My World Fell Down" Received: 09/04/99 12:31 pm From: Billy G. Spradlin, bgsprxxxxxhlink.net To: Spectropop List, spectxxxxxities.com Bates, Robert (Cahners-NYC), roxxxxxers.com wrote: >I'm sure you're all familiar with the Shirelles song "I >Met Him on a Sunday"...A neighbor of mine had a version >of that song that was ten times better...where I can find >it? Dear Rob: I believe the Shirelles cut 3 versions of this song. The 1958 original on Tiara Records (re-issued by Decca) that some writer has called "The First Girl Group Record"...any comments? (My Guess: The Chantels "Maybe") Then they cut a version with a similar arrangement in the early 60's as a LP track in Stereo. I don't know what Scepter LP it originally came from. I have it on a budget CD Compilation by Highland records. Then in 1966 they recut the song again as "Met Him on A Sunday--'66" (Scepter 12132) in a Awesome pounding Wall-of-Sound production! Its my favorite version of this song. This could be the record you're referring to. I first heard it on a United Artists "Very Best of The Shirelles" LP in the 70's. My problem is that most CD re-issues I have of this song use a weak sounding stereo mix. I have yet to find the original mono version on CD. So you have three different versions of the same song, and you never know what version you're going to get when you buy one of many Shirelles CD compilations out there. Too bad none of their post-"Foolish Little Girl" records were hits, for most of them were excellent records. I guess Scepter was paying more attention to Dionne Warwick instead of the group that put the company on the map. Michael wrote: >This song was released as a single, and got some spotty >air play on WKLO in Louisville, but never charted. A shame. >A great song. I need to find that album again. It is >stored at my in-law's house. Dear Michael: You should get the Sundazed CD Re-issue of "Present Tense" because it contains the original Mono 45 Version of "My World Fell Down" plus some amazing out-takes. Just my Recommendation! Billy G. Spradlin 29 Rim Road Kilgore, Texas 75662 Email: bgsprxxxxxhlink.net Homepage: http://home.earthlink.net/~bgspradlin/ --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Subject: My Collage Fell Down Received: 09/04/99 12:31 pm From: Jack Madani, Jack_Mxxxxxk12.nj.us To: Spectropop List, spectxxxxxities.com Michael writes: >Years later I bought the Sagittarius album on Columbia (CS >9644). I listened to "My World Fell Down" which led off >side two. And to my amazement, the audio collage and the >slow section with the organ and vocals were missing. Michael, The Sundazed reissue (SC 11053) includes both the lp and 45 versions of that song. There are also a mess o' unreleased trax and demos to round out the disc. It's a heckuva record. jack --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Subject: Re: "My World Fell Down" by Sagittarius Received: 09/04/99 12:31 pm From: Ron Weekes, Wexxxxxs.edu To: Spectropop List, spectxxxxxities.com The version you are talking about with the audio montage is the single version. The LP version does not have the audio montage. Head to www.sundazed.com and buy their CD of "Present Tense". It has both versions plus some other great rare tracks. Ron Weekes Landlocked in Idaho! The Surf and Hot Rod Sounds of Gary Usher Web Page http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Studio/8242 --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Subject: Re: Rosecrans lyric (and various digest stuff) Received: 09/04/99 12:31 pm From: Mr. Fulton, wuxxxxxet.se To: Spectropop List, spectxxxxxities.com > Volume #0316 September 3, 1999 >__________________________________________________________ > Expressing the feelings of the young mind of today This is really good! Spectropop music really expresses my feelings today! I don't care that everything was recorded 30-40 years ago - it's still new and fresh to me. For example, I heard my first Four Seasons song *last week* on a mixtape (good one, Jack :-)). Most of the things discussed on this list are recordings that I have only known about for like, a year at the most, if I even have heard of it! So keep those posts a-comin', listees - to quote Ralph Wiggum: "Lisa, I'm leardning" [sic] :-) Michael G. Marvin wrote re: the Sagittarius' "My World..." >Years later I bought the Sagittarius album on Columbia (CS >9644). I listened to "My World Fell Down" which led off >side two. And to my amazement, the audio collage and the >slow section with the organ and vocals were missing. I >thought I lost my mind. You probably already know this but you can find the single version on the CD-reissue of "Present Tense". Harvey Williams was kind enough to post the complete Rosecrans Blvd lyric, and also wrote: >I eagerly await your cover version!! Uhh...what do you mean? Can you read minds, Harvey? :-) I didn't say anything in my message about covering " Rosecrans Blvd"! *But*, I was definitely *thinking* about it earlier the same day, picking out the song on the piano (which I might add took over one hour; the song changes key several times, and some of the chords are quite odd). As a matter of fact, I thought "Wouldn't it be great to do a CD of Spectropop-listees performing their favourite Spectropop songs, just like the Pet Sounds-list has succesfully done with the Beach Boys' music?" What do you people think? Jamie LePage, in a moment of Freudian proportions, deeply analysed Rosecrans' lyric, and also wrote: >Hey Toby, you wrote you were disappointed with this song! >Starting to come around? :-) Actually, yes. I had only listened to the 5th Dimension's version, which I still think is rather dull, but then I noticed Johhny Rivers also has a version of the song on " The Jim Webb Songbook", and that one is fantastic! It sparkles like a bottle of champagne on a New Year's eve :-) Rivers' version is just more powerful and full of life than the 5D's. The addition of *drums* was a great move. >>She was a stewardess, you know. >>Shot down on a non-combatant mission. This part is interesting. Does Webb literally mean "shot down", as in being shot down with a weapon, or is he speaking metaphorically about shooting the stewardess down by saying he doesn't love her? And what can "non-combatant mission" refer too? Maybe it's just their sexual but emotionally empty relationship in other words....and by "shooting" her "down", he terminates their relationship for good. >As for me personally, well, I have a few "Rosecrans Blvd." >exit signs in my memory too. Do subway stations count? :-) Tobias --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- End
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