__________________________________________________________ __________ __________ __________ __________ __________ S P E C T R O P O P __________ __________ __________ __________________________________________________________ Volume #0316 September 3, 1999 __________________________________________________________ Expressing the feelings of the young mind of todaySubject: "I Met Him on a Sunday" Sent: 08/30/19 5:23 am Received: 09/03/99 12:52 am From: Bates, Robert (Cahners-NYC), roxxxxxers.com To: 'Spectropop List', spectxxxxxities.com I'm sure you're all familiar with the Shirelles song "I Met Him on a Sunday" -- at least the one that was on the Rhino Records girl groups comp. A neighbor of mine had a version of that song that was ten times better than that one, on an old record. (I forgot how it was better -- I just remember it was.) Anyone know any information about this, or where I can find it? Regards, Rob B. --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Subject: from Perry Botkin Sent: 09/05/19 6:43 pm Received: 09/03/99 12:52 am From: Carol Kaye, caroxxxxxhlink.net To: Spectropop List, spectxxxxxities.com I tell Perry from time to time things that were said on this list (he doesn't really have any time to join this list, sorry), and he said to tell everyone that "Priscilla Paris does live in Paris, France" for your information. Perry and I have been great friends for over 30 years and he has been composing some of his own fine music, it's great. His website is at: http://home.earthlink.net/~pbotkin/ Best, Carol Kaye http://www.carolkaye.com/ --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Subject: New York's a Lonely Town Sent: 09/01/19 5:35 am Received: 09/03/99 12:52 am From: DJ JimmyB, DJJimxxxxxcom To: Spectropop List, spectxxxxxities.com In a message dated 9/1/99 3:52:32 PM, you wrote: >Yamashita singing Tokyo's a Lonely Town. It's good to know that the Japanese have recognized just how precious this song is, which reminds me of Dave Edmunds' singing "London's A Lonely Town" on Pebbles Volume 4 (The Surf One). Fantasssstick Virgin of the tune. Also, does anyone know if The Tradewinds ever had an LP out on the heels (or toes) of "New York's A Lonely Town" or "Mind Excursion"? Thanks in advance Jimmy B/Boston's A Lonely Town when you're the only soft pop boy around.... "Jimmy's Easy" airs on WMBR-FM, 88,1, Cambridge at MIT on Tuesdays from 6-8 a.m. It can be heard in Real Time by downloading Real Audio and visiting our website at www.wmbr.org --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Subject: "My World Fell Down" by Sagittarius Sent: 09/01/19 1:53 am Received: 09/03/99 12:52 am From: WASE RADIO,xxxxxt.org To: Spectropop List, spectxxxxxities.com During the summer of 1967, I heard the song "My World Fell Down" by Sagittarius on WAKY in Louisville. I thought this was a unique song. It sounds like the Beach Boys crossed with the Mamas and the Papas further crossed by the Los Angeles symphony orchestra. What was also one of a kind about this record was this audio collage that starts at about 1:56. It starts with a clock ticking, a baby crying, a horse race bell, a steamboat whistle and a prize fight. Over this din is a solo trumpet then a hugh brass fanfare which segues into a solitary organ. Then slow vocals going back into the chorus. Years later I bought the Sagittarius album on Columbia (CS 9644). I listened to "My World Fell Down" which led off side two. And to my amazement, the audio collage and the slow section with the organ and vocals were missing. I thought I lost my mind. I still kept the album which I thought had some excellent material. For example "Another Time" which leads off the album is very haunting, especially with the haunting two note vocals. This song was released as a single, and got some spotty air play on WKLO in Louisville, but never charted. A shame. A great song. I need to find that album again. It is stored at my in-law's house. Spectropop rules Michael G. Marvin Wase Radio --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Subject: Re: Hep Stars Sent: 09/04/19 3:23 am Received: 09/03/99 12:52 am From: Billy G. Spradlin, bgsprxxxxxhlink.net To: Spectropop List, spectxxxxxities.com I'm glad Dawn answered questions about how Benny & Bjorn got Steve Clark to produce the Hep Stars. Too bad Curt Boettcher didn't wind up producing The Hep Stars, imagine what it could have sounded like, and the influence it could have had on ABBA. My guess is that since Curt didn't want to work with them, they tried to record his songs anyway, and that led them to hook up with Steve Clark. I'm just amazed they got permission from their Swedish record company to go to the USA and cut an album. Most 60's Scandinavian albums I have picked up over the years from Garage Sales and thrift stores are pretty cheap sounding, and not pop-rock at all. I also know that ABBA's first European hit "Ring Ring" was co-written with Neil Sedaka, so I have gotten the idea that Benny & Bjorn were actively perusing American writers and producers they had admired to work with them. Judging by ABBA's huge success in the 1970's they certainly did their musical homework! PS: The link to Delirium's Psychedelic Archive for information on Goldenrod was incorrect. I got a webpage for a Techno/Industrial noise band. Anyway the correct URL for Goldenrod is: http://www.delerium.co.uk/archive/us6070s/g3.html#Goldenrod Hope this helps! Billy G. Spradlin 29 Rim Road Kilgore, Texas 75662 Email: bgsprxxxxxhlink.net Homepage: http://home.earthlink.net/~bgspradlin/ --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Subject: Ripples Sent: 08/31/19 4:41 pm Received: 09/03/99 12:52 am From: Kingsley Abbott, kinxxxxxa.freeserve.co.uk To: Spectropop List, spectxxxxxities.com Re: Jack Madani's question about possible overlap between Ripples and the Here Comes The Girls series, the short answer is Yes. However it will be not very much, as I don't want to duplicate too much. Some tracks just cry out for inclusion though. For instance, on Uptown Girls and Big City Boys (Vol 4) I have put on Tammy St John and Glo Macari because they are just so right. We've just finished the final track listings for Ripples 3 & 4, and I'm going to do the notes this weekend. Reaction is good, and it looks like the series may be extended next year. There is also a possibility/probability of CDs just on The Freshmen (I had a phone call from a lovely Irishman today, and he is sending me lots of details and photos on The Freshmen, although the sad news is that their lead singer Billy Brown passed away in June this year), a White Plains style collection, and...AND a 2cd set of the best of US Sunshine Music. If this comes to pass, it will be about 50 tracks, and I'll do my darndest to include some real goodies that aren't available elsewhere. Dawn, we can talk about htis one!!! It also occurs to me that The Hep Stars would be a great re-issue project for Revola in their continuing Curt series. I'll go and talk to them. Back to where we began... quite a nice notion... Ripples overlapping girls. CD cover concept for next year maybe! Kingsley Abbott- Ripples Co-compiler --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Subject: rosecrans blvd. lyric Sent: 08/29/19 11:21 pm Received: 09/03/99 12:52 am From: Harvey Williamxxxxxnetuk.com To: Spectropop List, spectxxxxxities.com Tobias was wondering about the lyric of Rosecrans Blvd. Here's my interpretation. I probably ought to write the whole lyric out, to avoid confusion, and simply because (IMHO) it's one of the greatest lyrics ever written... I've passed a lot of exit signs in my time While driving down that long freeway To San Diego & points south. But there was a time last summer When I came down from Manhattan & though I knew I shouldn't It was just too hard. & I made my move at Rosecrans Blvd. Rosecrans Blvd. Stop your calling me. You know, I never loved her anyway. I just used her over & over. But there were times when she'd laugh And I'd think I loved her. One night on Manhattan Beach I said things that moved too fast to suit her. Then I held her close & dried her tears. Rosecrans Blvd. Who cares what you think? The girl was half crazy, the way she drove that little car Down Sunset Blvd at 3 in the morning Doing 90 miles an hour in a 30 mile zone And blamed me when she got that ticket. But then there was that smile; It was really what made all the airlines go. (Yes!!!!) She was a stewardess, you know. Shot down on a non-combatant mission. And though I hid it, Every time I drive my car down Rosecrans Blvd. I wonder why I did it... I eagerly await your cover version!! I've often wondered about its location. Perhaps our LA correspondents can help us out here... Regards, Harvey W. --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Subject: "Rosecrans Blvd" Received: 09/03/99 3:19 am From: Jamie LePage, le_pagxxxxxities.com To: Spectropop List, spectxxxxxities.com Toby wrote: >I can't make out the whole Rosecrans Blvd lyric - can >somebody correct my interpretation? There are a lot of >geographical references which I'm not too familiar with >(actually, where *is* this Rosecrans Blvd located????) Hey Toby, you wrote you were disappointed with this song! Starting to come around? :-) Thanks to your post, I have been listening to Johnny Rivers' Rewind album all day. Listening to it as I write this. Just great. Hal Blaine on drums, Joe Osborne on bass, Larry Knechtel on keys and Mike Dacy on guitars. Rosecrans Blvd is one of my very favorite Webb lyrics ever, and I would just like to explain a little bit why it is so touching to me. Part of it is personal being a native Angeleno, but it has to do with more than that. >I've passed a lot of exit signs in my time >While driving down that long freeway >To San Diego & points south When one finally makes the transition from the Hollywood or Santa Monica Freeway heading south, one leaves behind the horrible downtown traffic and a great feeling of release comes over the driver. Heading south, one approaches the LA Int'l Airport exits heading into Orange County and beyond. Rosecrans Blvd is one of those south-of-LA exits. >And though I knew I shouldn't >It was just too hard >I made my move at Rosecrans Blvd. To me, the lyric is the juxtaposition of lust and love. The narrator is attracted to a girl, but knows in his heart the attraction isn't love. Yet, seeing the Rosecrans Blvd. exit sign and knowing what waits beyond the offramp, he finds the allure too strong to resist. >I just used her >Over & over This line just kills me every time. He is reminding himself that his feelings were not really love, and the "over and over" line ensures the listener knows he kept the affair going despite his realizing it was not really love. >One night on Manhattan Beach >I said things that moved too fast to suit her >Then I held her close & dried her tears Manhattan Beach is a popular Orange County coastline relatively close to the airport, spacious and clean. A perfect setting for a romantic encounter. The wind, waves and girl race through his mind as the rhythm in the bridge changes meter to an accelerated 123-123-12 pattern, slowing for the last line before returning to the main theme. Webb achieves this marriage of lyric and rhythm effortlessly here. But what did he say that made her cry? That he loved her? That he wanted to make love to her? Webb leaves this question for the listener to ponder. >Rosecrans Blvd. >Who cares what you think >The girl was half crazy >The way she drove that little car >Down Sunset Blvd at 3 in the morning >Doing 90 miles an hour in a 30 mile zone >And blamed me when she got a ticket He continues to struggle, arguing with the temptation of the exit sign by recalling how she would do perplexingly impulsive things such as speed along Sunset Strip in the middle of the night and then get mad at him when she suffered the consequences. The Sunset Strip is a unique stretch of road that is beyond the jurisdiction of the LA Police. It is patrolled by LA Sheriff department who were and are notoriously strict. Remember, this song was written around the time of the Strip riots (For What It's Worth) and the tension of this area was apparently on everyone's mind, especially the new counter culture of which I assume Webb was part of. >And though I pity it >Every time I drive my car down Rosecrans Blvd. >I wonder why I did it Recapitulation of the entire lyric in these last lines; a powerhouse ending that abrubtly stops, leaving the listener to ponder why he did it and if, after all, it was right or wrong. I rarely get analytical with lyrics as I have here, but this is such a personal song and since you, Toby, wrote you were disappointed with it, I thought this may help you understand why many consider this one of Webb's best songs. As for me personally, well, I have a few "Rosecrans Blvd." exit signs in my memory too. Jamie --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- End
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