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  • From: The Spectropop Group
  • Date: 07/20/99

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       Volume #0296                           July 25, 1999   
                    A million units in January                
    Subject:     laff of the day
    Received:    07/20/99 11:17 pm
    From:        Big L,
    To:          Spectropop List,
    Big L
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    Subject:     Phantom Songs/Gonna Get Married
    Received:    07/25/99 3:28 pm
    From:        Richard Globman,
    To:          Spectropop List,
    Dave "I used to know this stuff before I got senile" Feldman SED:
    >In the early 1960s, Dick Clark played a song called "I 
    >Want To Get Married" and he identified the artist as Titus
    >Turner. I've never been able to find the record. Titus 
    >Turner sounds very much like Lloyd Price...
    > "I want to get married  
    >  [you're too young]
    >  Your name I'll carry"
    >Any ideas?
    Well, I never heard of Titus Turner either but the opening 
    lyrics sure sound like the Lloyd "Stagger Lee" Price song to 
    Stone Cold DickyG
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    Subject:     RE: Phantom Songs
    Received:    07/25/99 3:28 pm
    From:        Marc Miller,
    To:          '',
    Dave -
    The song you mentioned IS the Lloyd Price song. I don't 
    know if Titus Turner recorded it too.
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    Received:    07/25/99 3:28 pm
    From:        CHRIS KING,
    To:          Spectropop List,
    Greetings all. I run a monthly girl group club in London 
    called DA DOO RON RON and wondered whether any Spectropop 
    subscribers could help me with a query. I contantly need 
    to add to my vinyl collection and hoped that you could 
    advise me as to where I can buy original 60's girl group 
    records. Either on-line or via mail catalogues, shops et 
    Many thanks in advance,
    Chris King
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    Subject:     Question To Carol Kaye
    Received:    07/25/99 3:29 pm
    From:        John Hesterman,
    To:          Spectropop List,
    Hi Carol :)
    Today, on the Dave Clark Five Message Board, your name 
    came up as having played on some of the recordings by the 
    Dave Clark Five. I was surprised by this, because they 
    were a British band, although I know that studio players 
    were used by them just as they were by American artists of
    the same period. Then it occurred to me, it might be 
    possible, since the DC5 spent a lot of time in the United 
    States between 1964 and 1970. So again I wondered....
    If you have in fact recorded DC5 material, would you 
    specify which selections? Thank you in advance for your 
    response :)
    Regards from a HUGE Kaye Fan,
    John H.
    A San Diego Grape :)
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    Subject:     Studio Musicians' Hours
    Received:    07/25/99 3:28 pm
    From:        Carol Kaye,
    To:          Spectropop List,
    Michael mentioned something about the hours in a studio. 
    Our record dates were governed by our Musicians Union 
    (local 47 in Hollywood) and were 3-hours with OT in 1/2 
    hour increments. It was cheaper to call a break and do two
    3-hour sessions than to do one 5 hour session. Our usual 
    hours were 10-1PM, 02 -5PM, commercial probably from 6PM to 
    7PM, and last date of the day 8-11PM, every day and night 
    some weeks.
    You may want to check my FAQ page on my website for what 
    it was like to be a studio musician back in the 60s, a far
    cry from what it's like today where musicianship is not as 
    crucial as it was then. Of the 60's pop/rock groups, only 
    Brian could write most of his own parts, the rest we had 
    to do instant arranging on, even for the later-written 
    charts....they still counted on our group of studio 
    musicians (known as the "clique" back then, 50-60 of us 
    out of the pool of successful 350 or so total studio 
    musicians) for musical ideas to make a record "happen". 
    That all started subsiding at the start of the 70s. No-one
    today can do what we creatively did back then -- we were 
    all from the trenches of big bands, chordal experiences 
    (no note-scales back then), ear and experienced successful 
    musicians before any of us set foot in the studio work 
    The TV film and movie score calls usually started either 
    at 8AM or 9AM, (sometimes at 7:30AM) but still the 3-hour 
    date was in place there too. I've done over 10,000 studio 
    calls; it was a business with studio musicians paid about 
    3-4 times more than the hottest road musicians. 
    It was not an "art-form" as such, but it certainly was a 
    heavy art-form to create a hit recording. Sometimes the 
    hits had not that much to do with the singer, the song, 
    etc., the background always had to be there. 
    Carol Kaye
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    Subject:     Re: The Sunshine Company
    Received:    07/25/99 3:29 pm
    From:        WASE RADIO,
    To:          Spectropop List,
    To Stewart Mason:
    The Sunshine Company were a Southern California pop 
    quintet. Their sound is very similar to the Mamas and the 
    Papas and/or Spanky and Our Gang. The Sunshine Company 
    only had one top forty hit, "Back On The Street Again", a 
    great song that only peaked at #36. The song was top ten 
    in the Louisville Ky. area. They did have one other chart 
    single, "Happy". But there was a competing version by the 
    Blades of Grass. I think the compettion hurt that song's 
    potential. The Blades of Grass' version went to number 87.
    The Sunshine Company's went to #50. 
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    Subject:     Re: The Sunshine Company
    Received:    07/25/99 3:28 pm
    From:        Chuck Limmer, CLxxxxxcom
    To:          Spectropop List,
    On July 20, Stewart Mason wrote:
    >  ...I found two albums by some group called the Sunshine
    >  Company... I'd say album #1 is from 1967 and the follow-up, 
    >  SUNSHINE AND SHADOWS, is from late '68... So who did 
    >  I just buy two albums by? 
    The Sunshine Company recorded three albums on Imperial 
    from September 1967 through December 1968, all of them in 
    the same gentle folk-pop vein, with layered harmonies 
    featuring lead vocalists Mary Nance and Maury Manseau. It 
    sounds like you got their '67 debut, _Happy Is the 
    Sunshine Company_ , which includes the group's only Top 40
    single, "Back on the Street Again," as well as their 
    version of "Up, Up and Away," nicely-done covers of the 
    Beatles' "I Need You" and "Rain," and the SC's first chart
    record, " Happy." Very pretty stuff. 
    I don't know much about _Sunshine and Shadows_, except 
    that I believe it was their last album release. Worth 
    looking for, however, is the Sunshine Company's 
    self-titled second album for Imperial (LP-12368, released 
    2/68), which contains what was probably their best 
    recording, the John & Terry Boylan composition "Look, Here
    Comes the Sun." TRIVIA NOTE : After the Company ended its 
    run, bassist Larry Sims and drummer Merle Bregante went on
    to record with Loggins & Messina in the early-mid '70s.
    Chuck Limmer
    n.p. _The Sunshine Company_
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    Subject:     Symphonic SMiLE
    Received:    07/25/99 3:28 pm
    From:        Big L,
    To:          Spectropop List,
    I'm afraid this is not a joke, friends, as earlier reported:
    Big L
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    Subject:     The Ribbons
    Received:    07/25/99 3:28 pm
    From:        Ian Chapman,
    To:          Spectropop List,
    JimmyB wrote:-
    > Anyone know anything about this group called The Ribbons?
    > They recorded "Ain't Gonna Kiss Ya" which I first heard
    > covered by the Searchers on their "Needles & Pins" album.
    > I have it on a re-release-styled single on ERA, flip-sided
    > with Toni Fisher's "The Big Hurt " which I DO know about.
    > Anyone?...
    I can't give you a line-up for the Ribbons, but their 
    recording of "Ain't Gonna Kiss Ya" (a PJ Proby song) is 
    the original, and was produced by ex-Teddy Bear Marshall 
    Leib. Backed with "My Baby Said", it was released on his 
    own Marsh label, and made #81 in '62. The record was later
    reissued on Charger, but for some reason, the group name 
    was changed to the Sandpapers. The Searchers cover was one
    of several......others by Suzie Clark, Jean Martin (UK) and
    Simone Jackson (also UK) The Ribbons did another 45 on 
    Parkway in '64, "Melodie D'Amour"/"They Played A Sad Song", 
    but there was no Leib involvement on that one. 
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    Subject:     Ribbons and Bonnets
    Received:    07/25/99 3:28 pm
    From:        WILLIAM STOS,
    To:          Spectropop List,
    > Anyone know anything about this group called The Ribbons? 
    > They recorded "Ain't Gonna Kiss Ya" which I first heard
    > covered by the Searchers on their "Needles & Pins" album. 
    Was this song a hit? I think it's pretty good, but I 
    didn't know it would be rereleased. Another question. Who 
    are the Bonnets? Their song Ya Gotta Take A Chance is 
    dynamite! It's way too short for my liking, but it 
    certainly packs a punch for the time it plays. This is 
    faux-Spector at it's best. Very Crystals like. Almost Da 
    Doo Ron Ronish quality!
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    Subject:     Western Fair/Pixies
    Received:    07/25/99 3:28 pm
    From:        Tom Waters,
    To:          Spectropop List,
    Unfortunately, I'm not in charge of the Western Fair, I 
    just e-mailed the Pixies to see if they could possible 
    perform there. The Pixies sent a promotional package to 
    the fair, so it's up to them, although I think the guest 
    roster is full for this year. I wish I was in charge of it, 
    because I would book acts like the Pixies Three right 
    away. Sadly, most of the acts performing this year are not
    at all interesting. Acts like 98 Degrees, Tea Party, 
    Charley Pride (guess he's good if you are into country) 
    etc. In past years however, there have been some more 
    interesting acts like Peter Noone of Herman's Hermits, 
    Tony Bennett, Bobby Vee (it really bothered me that I 
    missed that one!) and Lou Christie. Who knows? Maybe the 
    Western Fair Association will book the Pixies next year. 
    The fair is held in mid-September but don't waste your 
    time coming all that way this year, it doesn't sound like 
    it would be worth it.
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    Subject:     Jeffrey Foskett
    Received:    07/25/99 3:28 pm
    From:        chuck,
    To:          Spectropop List,
    > I spent a few wonderful days last week, because I saw 
    > Brian Wilson tour in Japan. 
    > All the chorus work was so gorgeous, especially  Jeffrey 
    > Foskett!! "Better than Beach Boys" some people said.
    Jeffrey Foskett has 5 albums available in the US and 
    others in Japan. For those who might not know his name, he
    toured with the Beach Boys from 1980-90 and his voice is so
    similar to Brian's that he was given lead vocals at some 
    concerts. Some of the songs on his albums capture the 1965
    Beach Boy sound perfectly. You'd think they had uncovered 
    some new tapes. I did not realize he was touring with 
    Brian but I think he is a great choice.
    Easy listening in the Big Easy
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    Subject:     Re: (Tokyo) Life with Brian
    Received:    07/25/99 3:28 pm
    From:        Jamie LePage,
    To:          Spectropop List,
    >When we saw Brian live we didn't miss Joe at all; my 
    >friend said "Maybe Brian doesn't need Joe Thomas anymore." 
    Some might even go as far as to suggest Brian didn't need 
    Joe Thomas in the first place! ;-)
    >All the chorus work was so gorgeous, especially 
    >Jeffrey Foskett!! 
    Jeffrey's own records, especially his first album "Thru My
    Window", are absolutely great. I am surprised no one 
    mentioned this during Dave Mirich's recent thread on 
    current music infuenced heavily by '60's music. In any 
    event, when I heard Brian had ditched the Paley tapes in 
    favor of Imagination, I had in mind the "dream team" to work 
    with Brian, namely Sean O'Hagan, Wondermints and Jeffrey 
    Foskett. Guess I got two out of three wishes granted...not
    >...I never saw Mike Love. Am I missing something?
    Now you are trolling!!!!!!!!! Don't get me started! :-)
    [delete long diatribe about dog ears, Transcendental 
    Meditation, cash registers, car song medleys, woo woo 
    machines, Monster Mashes, Stars & Stripes, cab rides in 
    Salt Lake City, Man in the Boat, "When I wrote Good 
    Vibrations with Brian", etc., etc., etc.]
    Brian Wilson rules!!!!!
    All the best,
    Jamie LePage
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    Subject:     Re: THIS IS NOT A JOKE.....
    Received:    07/25/99 3:28 pm
    From:        Big L,
    To:          Spectropop List,
    Folks, I knew full well this was a hoax, had known it 
    for weeks. I wanted to expose this in a way that would 
    embarrass the perpetrators. There are going to be many 
    people who don't see that JOKE disclaimer down at the 
    bottom hidden in the links.
    One of the perpetrators is spreading this link around 
    Beach Boys chat rooms as I type this.
    I don't find it funny. 
    Big L
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