__________________________________________________________ __________ __________ __________ __________ __________ S P E C T R O P O P __________ __________ __________ __________________________________________________________ Volume #0293 July 15, 1999 __________________________________________________________ Bringing the finest recorded entertainment into your homeSubject: A Bit More on VDP and "Come to the Sunshine" Received: 07/15/99 1:55 am From: Dan Murphy, daxxxxxfier.com To: Spectropop List, spectxxxxxities.com Stewart Mason's post in reply to Don Richardson noted that Van Dyke Parks' "Come to the Sunshine" appeared on the Warner Brothers' loss leader DEEP EAR. The liner notes to the WB compilation noted that the version included was edited by VDP himself. Parks' "Number Nine" and "Come to the Sunshine" were included on an MGM compilation album, "The Core Of Rock" (SE-4669). "...Sunshine" is listed at 2:52 on the MGM album, compared to the 2:32 edit for the WB comp. If I can assume the version on the MGM LP is the same as the original single, then the difference I hear is the removal of two verses. The first edit is just after the line "I really doubt you think about me like I do you". The WB edit then goes right into the "come to the sunshine" refrain, while the MGM version has the lines "We could laugh it all off/'Cause I'd act in your be/Half of me would be forever together". The second edited verse is just before the final "come to the sunshine" refrain near the fadeout. I can't quite figure out Parks' lyrics on this verse, although it starts out "Mal de mer..." Having gone back and listened to the two versions, I wonder why Parks felt it necessary to edit the track. Dan M. --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Subject: Al Kooper and the Phoney Received: 07/15/99 1:55 am From: James F. Cassidy, casswxxxxxhlink.net To: Spectropop List, spectxxxxxities.com Thanks to Paul MacArthur for tipping us off to Al Kooper's Top 100 LPs. Al sure knows how to pick 'em. Knowing that he's now a professor (!) at Berklee College of Music here in Boston, I looked for him at the recent Brian Wilson concert, and sure enough, there he was several tables ahead of me. On a completely different subject, Tobias wrote: >This isn't as off-topic as it may sound, but does anyone >watch "Nightstand", the phoney talkshow, starring the >equally phoney Dick Dietrich, which makes fun of real >talkshows like "Jerry Springer"? There were a series of >references in tonight's show to The Grassroots and several >songs by Gary Zekley! Not that it matters, but the "equally phoney Dick Dietrich" is a friend of mine, Tim Stack. He and I went to school together at Boston College (1973-77). Ultra-tenuous Spectropop connection: once when I was DJ'ing at the Boston College radio station, Tim and his roommate stood in front of me outside the studio window and dropped their shorts. Just thought you'd like to know, Jim P.S. I thought "Jerry Springer" made fun of real talk shows ... --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Subject: cover me.... Received: 07/15/99 1:55 am From: james fisher, JHxxxxxv.net To: Spectropop List, spectxxxxxities.com I'm--once again--weeks behind but I just read the posts about different cover versions of Spectropop-tunes and I got to wondering....what songs from then would you like to have seen covered and by whom?? Sort of a fantasy Juke Box Jury kind of thing I guess.. I sometimes hear a record from the 60s and it begs to be re-done by some other artist from the same era. You can hear their version in your mind and it sounds great. Phil Spector always seems to produce my covers, which is pretty nice. Thanks Phil. (By the same token there's many songs that beg to be left alone --the definitive version has been done already..e.g. "You've lost that lovin' feelinxxxxxhould not be done by anyone but the Right.Bros. (and this includes our own Dionne IMHO, as great as she is.) In any event,does anyone have a song that just needs a different performer to kick it up from Bubbling Under to Top Ten favorite in the desert island disc list? Cheers, Jim --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Subject: Darlene Love at Stratford Received: 07/15/99 1:55 am From: Ian Chapman, iaxxxxxalnet.co.uk To: Spectropop List, spectxxxxxities.com Jimmy Cresitelli wrote: >Thanks, Ian! I appreciate that, and loved your info re >Darlene Love: my supreme vocal goddess of all time. >Speaking of things Spector, I've got photographs of you >and Carol and Ronnie somewhere... posed In England, I >think. I believe Ronnie's wearing a black hat. Ian, my >regards to Mick Patrick and the rest. Hear that, gang? >Xerox copies of PSAS stuff now available. HI Jimmy...... Not me in the photos, Jimmy - I've never yet got to meet Ronnie. I do have great memories of meeting Darlene, however, which I'd like to share. It was when she came over to the Royal Shakespeare Theatre in Stratford-upon-Avon as part of the musical version of "Carrie" (yes, the horror film - don't ask!) If you've read Darlene's book, you'll know what she thinks about the show in retrospect, but at the time, it was something different, and I enjoyed it. Although, still buzzing from having met Darlene before the show, it could've been the musical version of "The Texas Chainsaw Massacre" for all I cared! Darlene, who played Carrie's teacher, was in superb vocal form. The show was choreographed by Debbie ("...so you want Fame") Allen, and Michael Gore wrote the songs. The cast was an unusual mixture of UK and US performers, from the famous to unknown local talent. Apart from Darlene, there was Barbara Cook, Gene Anthony Ray (aka Leroy in "Fame") and Sally Ann Triplett, who had represented the UK in the Eurovision Song Contest, in a duo called Bardo. In Darlene's dressing room before the show, a group of us (myself, Mick Patrick, Malcolm Baumgart and Keith Beach) had had a great time laughing and chatting about things like "Lethal Weapon" - how she got teased about her cooking after that movie, how easily she got along with Mel Gibson (but found Danny Glover a little more aloof), and how the cast of "Carrie" would every now and then get together and have "Lethal Weapon" parties. We talked about the special FX in the show, especially Carrie's "levitations" (I won't say what we said about levitating Barbara!), and the songs. Darlene's big number was "Unsuspecting Hearts", sadly never to make it onto a recording as the show was so short-lived. We spoke of the Spector days of course, and especially "He's A Rebel" - Crystal Dee Dee Kennibrew had been interviewed in "Goldmine" around the time, and had been misinterpreted as saying that Darlene never sang on it. I think what she actually said was "Darlene never sang lead with the Crystals". However, Darlene did say that Dee Dee did seem to have a problem with "He's A Rebel" and had approached her at the funeral of Shirelle Micki Harris to say something to the effect that the Crystals had done it too, but Phil had overdubbed Darlene's voice (ahem!) We then looked at some 45s I had taken along to prompt a few recollections, and Darlene remembered them all - even sang us a few bars of the Blossoms' "Lover Boy"! I also gave her a tape I'd made of Darlene & the Blossoms under various guises (Wildcats, Rebelettes, Allisons, Birdies, Young Cougars etc.) - some she knew, others were surprises. She said that often when the Blossoms did a session vocal, they never got to know how it was eventually put out or what name the producer had dreamed up. Also on the tape were a few tracks which featured very prominent Blossoms back-ups, like Steve Alaimo's "Gotta Lotta Love", and we even got a few bars of that too! But the one that really excited her was Sharon Marie's "Runaround Lover"... "Brian Wilson!!", she yelled, "Where did you get that?!!" It was an unforgettable meeting - Darlene was warm and welcoming and had a great sense of humour - she made us all feel like long-lost friends. Some of the guys met her next day for breakfast - unfortunately I had a prior engagement and couldn't make it - but they taped an interview, which later appeared in "Philately". They then went around Stratford, pausing, so I was told, to look in a shop that sold novelty teapots - some slightly erotic in design, if you get my meaning - which Darlene apparently found hilarious!! Ian --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Subject: Lesley Gore Received: 07/15/99 1:55 am From: Paul Urbahns, Pauluxxxxxcom To: Spectropop List, spectxxxxxities.com In a message dated 7/12/99 7:27:23 PM Eastern Daylight Time, spectxxxxxities.com writes: > Can anyone tell me (Carol Kaye?) who the musicians were on > Lesley Gore's records, particularly the drummer ... Could > it have been Hal Blaine? > > Her stuff was always so well produced and, as I have said > before, the girl singers backing her were fantastic, the > harmonies full and perfect. > > Also, is Snuff Garrett producing anyone these days? Claudia, I think most all of Lesley Gore's stuff was done in new York with Quincy Jones producing, I maybe wrong though. Many of the background vocals do feature Ellie Greenwich of Barry & Greenwich writing fame. Paul Urbahns pauluxxxxxcom --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Subject: Lesley Gore - Eden Ahbez Received: 07/15/99 1:54 am From: Carol Kaye, caroxxxxxhlink.net To: Spectropop List, spectxxxxxities.com Claudia, not sure which sides of Lesley Gore's they played on but both Hal Blaine and Earl Palmer did do dates for Lesley (separately altho' they both played on some Jan & Dean things together). Those credits will be out in Russ Wapensky's studio musicians' credit book (Greenwood Press, no title yet) due out end of this year. I met Eden Ahbez at Fife & Nichols Music Store in Hollywood (long-gone, used to be across the street from Woolworths), about the 1st of 1952, standing there with guitarist Howard Roberts, discussing music and philosophy. I was just a kid and it impressed me.... Eden Ahbez was nice, looked a little unkempt (he said he lived in a tree-house in the Palm Springs area) and he sort of looked the part - hate to say this, but it was hard to get close to him, sort of an out-doorsy aura. His hair was a little tangled and long, had a beard, the typical 60s hippie look in the 50s, he was thin as I recall, very animated yet "cool" and extremely nice in talking....you got the feeling that he didn't associate with people very much (sort of reticent in a way) but was enjoying talking to the affable Howard Roberts. He struck me as being a very good person, very intelligent but just loving to live "away" from civilization....enjoying a solitary life he said. Carol Kaye http://www.carolkaye.com/ --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Subject: RE: BOB ALCIVAR & 5D's Received: 07/15/99 1:55 am From: Bob Alcivar, balxxxxxhlink.net To: Spectropop List, spectxxxxxities.com I'm at a slight loss. Although I arranged for The 5th Dimension over a 5 year period, and worked on around 10 albums for them, starting with 'Stoned Soul Picnic', I can't recall a song called 'There Never Was A Day', or even a song with those lyrics. Could you be thinking of another group? Or am I going bonkers? Check out the album, group and title again and let me know. Maybe I did it, but can't remember. I must have written over 80 or so charts, vocally and instrumentally for them during their hot years. Curious, Alcivar --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Subject: Ronnie Spector Received: 07/15/99 1:54 am From: john rausch,xxxxx.net To: Spectropop List, spectxxxxxities.com The new issue of Goldmine Mag has a blurb for the September American release of Ronnie`s ep cd She Talks To Rainbows. This release is supposed to have 2 live tracks added to the other 4 tracks that came out in the UK. AND what`s even better is Ronnie will be gracing the COVER of Goldmine in December, which will have an interview included!!! John Rausch Presenting The Fabulous Ronexxxxxp://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Studio/2469/ --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Subject: Today's Hits Received: 07/15/99 1:54 am From: Jimmy Cresitelli, Jimxxxxxcom To: Spectropop List, spectxxxxxities.com John Rausch-- Thanks very much! Mine's not in the best of shape by any means, but I was curious. --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- ADMIN NOTE: Spectropop would like to welcome Ms. Kaye Krebs of Pixies Three to the list. Since 1995, after a 27- year hiatus, Pixies Three are performing once again on a regular basis. In her letter to Spectropop Admin, Ms. Krebs wrote: "I'm looking forward to reading the Spectropop digest, and perhaps contributing a word or two occasionally." There you have it! Welcome Kaye Krebs of the fabulous Pixies Three! 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