__________________________________________________________ __________ __________ __________ __________ __________ S P E C T R O P O P __________ __________ __________ __________________________________________________________ Volume #0287 July 6, 1999 __________________________________________________________ "Wide Dynamic Range"Subject: Renay in Japan? Received: 07/03/99 11:37 pm From: David Feldman, feldxxxxerables.com To: Spectropop List, spectroxxxxies.com Diane Renay said: > It would be nice for my memories to have > the articles! I really hadn't any idea that my music was > played outside of the US and Japan, where it was number #1 > for 12 weeks on Japan's National music chart. > Did you tour at all in Japan? I'm curious if you could put your finger on why you were so popular in Japan. It is such a pleasure and honor to have you here. Dave Feldman Lake of the Week: Tahoe Concert of the Week: Brian Wilson in NYC Scariest Cast on Television: Real World -- Hawaii Best Gender Survey on the Net: More than 40 new questions at http://www.imponderables.com --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Subject: Diane Renay/Ian Chapman Received: 07/03/99 2:33 pm From: WILLIAM STOS, wsxxxx.com To: Spectropop List, spectroxxxxies.com Diane Renay wrote: > I really hadn't any idea that my music was played > outside of the US and Japan, where it was number #1 > for 12 weeks on Japan's National music chart. You'd be surprised to hear from where some of the girl group fans I've met hail. Thailand, Indonesia, Germany, Australia, Holland, Finland, etc. We're everywhere. Ian, do you know if Mick has some back issues of his fanzines to sell? I'd love to buy some. Does he have email yet, or could I pass a message along to him through you? I'd love to chat with the guy who indirectly, taught me 75% I know about girl groups through liner notes. Will --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Subject: Newbeats Received: 07/03/99 4:06 am From: john rausch, jxxxxet To: Spectropop List, spectroxxxxies.com Anyone have any info on the group that was the Newbeats? They had a hit with Bread and Butter, but my favorite was Run Baby Run and I came across a great find. The Run Baby Run lp in stereo. They do a bunch of covers of top tunes of the day with "their" sound, with that more than Frankie Valli`s high voice. A great find, no Spector sound or GG theme but just good old fashioned pop and roll. I am curious now to some history of this group and figure this is the list to find out. Track Listing: run baby run oh,pretty woman (orbison) hang on sloopy (mccoys) help (beatles) little child its really goodbye oh girls girls satisfaction (stones) this old heart come see about me (supremes) mean woolie willy lookin for love John Rausch --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Subject: Re: Bob Lind Received: 07/07/99 1:06 am From: Jeffrey Thames, KingoGrxxxxm To: Spectropop List, spectroxxxxies.com For what it's worth, I recommend the EMI compilation *You Might Have Heard My Footsteps: The Best [sic] of Bob Lind* from (I believe) 1995. It contains both World Pacific albums in their entirety, plus a few extra goodies. I bought it primarily for "Elusive Butterfly" (a favorite since first listen) and was not disappointed in the least by the other tracks. "It's Only My Love" shoulda made him a two-hit wonder at the very least... Another welcome to Ms. Christopher! I'll never forget hearing "Come Softly to Me" as a preteen and practically melting, for lack of a better term... Cheers, Jeff NP: Willie Nelson: A Classic & Unreleased Collection [disc one] (I got this a month or so ago and only just now got around to breaking the shrink-wrap! Sorry, Willie...) --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Subject: Re: Soft Sounds Received: 07/03/99 2:34 pm From: Michael "Doc Rock" Kelly, docroxxxxom To: Spectropop List, spectroxxxxies.com Jamie, While the Teddy Bears SEEM soft in my mind, a listen shows that the lead voice sounds more like Diane than Gretchen in parts. No, Id say Gretchen "invented" soft rock! IMHO Doc --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Subject: The Fleetwoods Received: 07/03/99 11:37 pm From: David Feldman, feldxxxxerables.com To: Spectropop List, spectroxxxxies.com Jamie said, in part: > to be sure, > it isn't one thing in particular, such as the > productions, the arrangements, the musicianship. It is an > undefinable emotional reaction I have to the overall sound. Well stated! I've always been attracted to soft songs that betray deep emotions without histrionics. In a different kind of way, Willie Nelson does this effectively in his ballads. But few have ever done it so beautifully as The Fleetwoods. Besides the obvious emotionally-charged candidates, "Mr. Blue," "Come Softly To Me," and "The Great Imposter," I've always been a sucker for " Graduation's Here." What wonderful vocals and arrangement. It "gets" me every time I listen to it. And the "Mr. Blue" album cover might be my favorite ever. Jamie, Gretchen, or anyone: If I own the original albums and the Rhino Greatest Hits CD, what else is in the EMI compilation (which I don't think I've ever seen)? Thanks so much for joining us. Dave Dave Feldman Lake of the Week: Tahoe Concert of the Week: Brian Wilson in NYC Scariest Cast on Television: Real World -- Hawaii Best Gender Survey on the Net: More than 40 new questions at http://www.imponderables.com --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Subject: Re: "You" by the Aquatones Received: 07/03/99 2:34 pm From: Tom Waters, shangrixxxxom To: Spectropop List, spectroxxxxies.com "You" by the Aquatones is a terrific recording. Spector was probably influenced by it when he wrote "To Know Him Is to Love Him" but the latter is not too similar to the former. "To Know Him" has a softer sound, while "You" has more of an operatic sound (probably because the lead singer on the recording had been trained in opera.) Tom --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Subject: Re: VDP/Pet Sounds Received: 07/03/99 2:33 pm From: Derrick Bostrom, bostwoxxxxerve.com To: Spectropop List, spectroxxxxies.com Spectropop List, of spectroxxxxies.com, wrote, on 7/2/99 12:04 PM: >I'm looking for another VDP commercial for Ice Capades >(or something like that), has anyone heard it? That one could be found on the Warner Reprise sampler " Record Show", whereas the Datsun music is on "Songbook". (Or is it the other way around?) Derrick Bostrom bostwoxxxxerve.com http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/bostworld/ --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Subject: Re: Warwick Received: 07/03/99 11:37 pm From: Stig O'Hara, wuo0xxxx.se To: Spectropop List, spectroxxxxies.com Richard Globman enjoys: > 1. Do You Believe In Love At First Sight - Dionne Warwick Who wrote the song? Bacharach? T. --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Subject: Sunset Sound Received: 07/03/99 2:34 pm From: Carol Kaye, carolkxxxxink.net To: Spectropop List, spectroxxxxies.com To Mike Marvin, I didn't want to be wrong, so I didn't say anything about Sunset Sound....but that's always come to mind when I tho't about where we cut the Bob Lind "Elusive Butterfly" recording (can't recall the drummer). Others that come to mind (it was actually a lot of stuff cut there tho') were "Feelin' Alright" (Paul Humphrey on drums), Tutti Camaratta's "Trombone" lps, and things for the Sherman Bros. ("Winnie The Pooh" etc., that had Hal Blaine on drums for sure). Thanks for verifying my memory (too lazy to look it up in the log I guess). Big L: I played guitar on one of those BW dates, and always tho't it was Ray Pohlman on bass. Brian did play on their first things....but I never even knew he played bass until very late 60s....when you record in LA, you never sit and listen to rock and roll records. First of all, there's simply no time, you're recording day and night. And being a jazz musician, it was enough to record rock and roll let alone listen to any of it. Upon reflecting watching him play live on a recent film, I tho't he had a great groove - played good for that kind of music w/the group, tho' was not adept technically well on bass. He never told me he was a bass player, he always played piano to show us what the tune sounded like before retiring forever in the booth. Brian wrote out all the notes for me to play except one lick I improvised on "Calif. Girls". His notes were legible howbeit sometimes the notes were on the wrong side of the stems, etc. things like that. Sometimes we had to re-copy his written parts to make them a little more legible, but they were all his notes. And he was always a pleasure to work for, very self-confident, happy, talent-driven man who knew how to produce, treated us with respect and (I think) wanted to knock us out with his music.....he was absolutely a cheerful, very happy guy, very great at producing and wonderful to work for. We knew he had a gift and while we would create our own parts for other groups mostly, Brian definitely had his own fine ideas, he was exceptional that way. Just can't understand all this downer stuff about him on documentaries sometimes.....he never was that way at all in the studios which was his "home" I guess to be himself - he was just the opposite, happy, a great person to be around, totally business, totally creative in the studios, was a hard-worker....this "other" persona of him is totally foreign to me. He was like he was in the stuidos the 2-3 times he and Marilyn came over to visit me also at my house (to use my Niagara chair w/rollers and heat while Marilyn and I chatted, watched TV together -- totally like a happy married couple just "visiting" which people did in those days). I chalk all that stuff up at his home as "hey, he was young & having fun, why shouldn't he play piano in a sand-box, what's wrong with that?" He absolutely LOVED being in the studios, loved creating, took over the board once Chuck Britz set it up, Chuck would twiddle his thumbs but be at the beck and call of Brian (at his side) if he ever needed assistance (which was sort of rare). And we enjoyed a good relationship with him too....he'd put you on in a flash, had a great sense of quiet stone-faced humor. Yes, I'd say he played bass pretty good for that kind of music (but had some pretty bad hand techniques that would have given him problems soon). He had something that few people really have to start with (and have to work hard to get): a great sense of TIME and GROOVE. The bass drives the whole band basically (not a pun), and is responsible for the "basement" part of the function of the band (like the drummer is the framework for the rest of the rooms in the house)...the bass and drums working together forms the foundation of a band. If you remember (or research it), the bass player was playing "dum-de-dum" back in those days.....I was accidently placed on bass late 1963 when the bassist didn't show up at Capitol Records (in my 6th year of studio work on guitar) and just borrowed someone's Fender Bass and played what I wanted to, which was a helluva lot more fun than playing all that boring surf-rock stuff on guitar..... and started playing a lot of 16ths (latin, timbale or conga type lines) which no-one was ever doing before or at that time at all...it was "new" but I didn't care if no-one played that before - that's what felt appropo for the music recorded then. That's what I wanted to play and everyone liked it. Brian stretched out harmonically on bass parts, he heard bass lines as part of a symphonic orchestra....and soon was writing that way interestingly enough. No-one else ever tho't that way for commercial recordings at all, which makes him unique and he's still unique. Carol Kaye http://www.carolkaye.com/ --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Subject: PS.... Received: 07/03/99 2:34 pm From: Carol Kaye, carolkxxxxink.net To: Spectropop List, spectroxxxxies.com You have to remember, we were all pretty young, just getting going in the early 60s and the business was taking off well by mid-60s. I remember working quite a bit with engineer Bruce Botnick, who tho' still very young, had a look and aura of promise as a long-term fine engineer. He was nice, good-looking, humble, very sharp and quick in his field altho' fairly "new" yet...you knew he was going places. If anyone knows him, please give him my best regards. It was always a pleasure to work with Bruce. Carol Kaye http://www.carolkaye.com/ --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Subject: Top Ten Received: 07/03/99 2:34 pm From: David Marsteller, davebxxxxlin.org To: Spectropop List, spectroxxxxies.com Gee, what a tough assignment it is to pick my ten favorite 60s songs! I'm sure I would come up with a very different list tomorrow, but here goes (in no particular order): 1) The Zombies-Beechwood Park 2) The Turtles-Somewhere Friday Night 3) Peter & Gordon-To Show I Love You 4) The Marvellettes-He Was Really Sayin' Something 5) Every Mother's Son-Rainflowers 6) Gene Clark-Is Yours, Is Mine 7) Timebox-Yellow Van 8) John Fred & His Playboy Band-Tissue Paper 9) The Jelly Beans-I Wanna Love Him So Bad 10) The Rolling Stones-Dandelion Ask me tomorrow, I'll give you another ten. ;) Dave /************************************************************************/ /** David Marsteller davebxxxxlin.org **/ /************************************************************************/ --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Subject: I'm new...Midas Touch? Received: 07/03/99 2:34 pm From: Jill Mingo, mixxxxt.co.uk To: Spectropop List, spectroxxxxies.com Hello, List! I just joined a couple days ago and am still finding my feet on what goes on, but I'm hoping you might help me with The Midas Touch. My DJing partner played a track called "Viva" by this band tonight, and I thought it was some pretty great 60s latinesque pop. On Decca. Anyone heard of this band? And do they have music readily available? Thanks, Jimmy Bee for putting me on to this list! Jill "Mingo-go" --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Subject: Re: Ice Capades, etc. Received: 07/07/99 1:06 am From: Stewart Mason, flamixxxxom To: Spectropop List, spectroxxxxies.com John Rausch wrote: >Back to the oldies as jingles thread... Here`s a few radio >spots I found while going through my cassettes that are >quite interesting: Chunky Soup ...Chunky`s Back, using reworded >"my boyfriends back" That's a perennial for this kind of thing, since as my brother Reagan and I discovered to our delight years ago, you can put ANYTHING in that melody and it'll sound great. One of our less obscene variants started "My boyfriend's back and he's gonna beat your face in..." And then Tobias asked: >>my favorite [VDP] song [...] is the Datsun car commercial >>off of a Warner Bros sampler album in the early 70's. > >Oh yes, that's a brilliant song! I'm looking for another VDP commercial >for Ice Capades (or something like that), has anyone heard it? Yes, it's on another of the WB Loss Leader sets, 1969 WARNER-REPRISE RECORD SHOW. However, it's just a pair of twiddly synth instrumentals without much to them, so I wouldn't go to terribly great lengths to acquire them if I were you. And finally, on a non-Spectropop note: one of my favorite artists of the 90s, Mark Sandman, singer/songwriter for the bass/sax/drums trio Morphine, died of a heart attack onstage at a festival in Italy on Saturday at the age of 47. A Boston native formerly of the blues-rock band Treat Her Right (you might remember their 1987 hit, "I Think She Likes Me"), Sandman was a brilliant, inventive performer and songwriter able to take Morphine's deliberately limited lineup -- his bass had two strings, tuned to the same note and played with a slide -- and create surprisingly varied sounds with it, due in large part to Dana Colley's Rahsaan Roland Kirk-inspired two-saxes-at-once style and Billy Conway's off-kilter, melodic drums. Sandman also had, bar none, the absolute sexiest male voice in the history of pop music. They released four albums and a rarities compilation on Rykodisc and Dreamworks, and their 1993 album CURE FOR PAIN is one of this decade's finest musical achievements. Stewart ***************************FLAMINGO RECORDS************************* Stewart Allensworth Mason Box 40172 "New Mexico: We stuff our dead Albuquerque NM 87196 governors into fireworks displays!" www.rt66.com/~flamingo *********************HAPPY MUSIC FOR NICE PEOPLE******************** --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- End
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