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Spectropop V#0273

  • From: The Spectropop Group
  • Date: 06/13/99

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       Volume #0273                           June 14, 1999   
       Spectra-sonic-sound ...the ultimate in High Fidelity   
    Subject:     Promenade through the park
    Received:    06/13/99 11:32 pm
    From:        Musil's, muxxxxm
    To:          Spectropop List,
    Steve McClure asked: 
    > From which film is the following quote 
    > taken, and which LP featured it on the inside of the 
    > gatefold cover?: "Well, Leo, what say we promenade through
    > the park?" 
    Can't tell you the movie but the lp is George Harrison's Dark 
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    Subject:     Producers/John's Children/Vogues
    Received:    06/13/99 11:31 pm
    From:        Stewart Mason, flamixxxxom
    To:          Spectropop List,
    Steve asks:
    >From which film is the following quote 
    >taken, and which LP featured it on the inside of the 
    >gatefold cover?: "Well, Leo, what say we promenade through
    >the park?"
    That would be Zero Mostel to Gene Wilder in Mel Brooks' 
    THE PRODUCERS, possibly the funniest film ever made. 
    George Harrison used it in the gatefold of DARK HORSE. 
    Personally, my favorite line in the movie is "Der Fuehrer 
    never called anyone Baby," in response to Dick Shawn's 
    equally legendary line "Achtung, Baby!"
    Speaking of THE PRODUCERS in a pop context, Legs Larry 
    Smith (former drummer for the legendary Bonzo Dog Band) 
    did a 1978 single with a disco (!!!) version of THE 
    PRODUCERS' centerpiece tune, "Springtime For Hitler." 
    And then Jamie LePage wrote:
    >White Whale was indeed an elusive label; I know little 
    >about the operation. Why do you think the Turtles were 
    >particularly given a raw deal, Lenny? I'm not disagreeing,
    >just curious. btw, love the White Whale single by Brit band
    >John's Children "Smashed! Blocked!", which I understand was
    >actually recorded by Simon Napier Bell in LA with the 
    >clique (Wrecking Crew). Carol, any recollection of this? 
    >Anyone else know about this side?
    I own John's Children's THE LEGENDARY ORGASM ALBUM, a 
    reissue on Cherry Red of an album released by White Whale 
    in 1968. ORGASM is 12 studio cuts covered with tapes of 
    hysterical screaming (legend has it that the screaming is 
    from A HARD DAY'S NIGHT) to simulate a live album. Legend 
    also has it that WW pulled the album almost immediately 
    after complaints over the title, eventually reissuing it 
    in the early 70s as an 8-track, which was the only way it 
    was available until Cherry Red reissued the album, with 
    both sides of the "Smashed Blocked"/"Just What You Want, 
    Just What You'll Get" single appended.
    But listening to this song twice in a row right now, no 
    way is this Hal, Carol and company. Whoever is playing 
    this record is either extremely stoned or borderline 
    incompetent. This is not a bad thing, as it's a wonderful 
    example of freakbeat, as appealling in its way as anything
    by the Creation.
    Oh, and someone asked in the last issue -- no, The Vogues'
    "The Land of Milk and Honey" was written by John Hurley and
    Ronnie Wilkins, not Curt Boettcher. 
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    Subject:     Mello Cads' - An Afternoon Affair
    Received:    06/13/99 11:31 pm
    From:        DJ JimmyB, DJJimmyxxxxm
    To:          Spectropop List,
    In a message dated 6/10/99 1:40:11 PM, you wrote:
    >Mello Cads' vocal version of An Afternoon Affair
    This is real top-shelf stuff. Verrill's reocrding is 
    fantabulash, but I cringe a bit at the clarinet sound. 
    Then when the Cad's took it home it became a sheer delight
    in every bite. It has been on "heavy rotation" on my show 
    "Jimmy's Easy" on WMBR-FM, Cambridge 88.1 at MIT. My guess 
    is that the femme fatale on the tune is Asian. Anyone know? 
    Also right in the middle where they have 3-4 seconds of 
    heavy guitared notes, that part should have been recurring. 
    Also they should have made the tune longer...Maybe the 
    remix will t.c.b. on those concerns 
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    Subject:     Various topics #0270-#0272
    Received:    06/13/99 11:31 pm
    From:        Yggdrasil Ivanisevic,
    To:          Spectropop List,
    Jeez, this list is faster than lightning nowadays :) This 
    is a kind of messy reply to messages from three digests so
    it isn't really, uh, digestable.
    Chuch M (did you use to be on the Exotica-list as well?) 
    wrote on the topic of soft pop: 
    >I've been thinking about the origins of this soft pop 
    >music and I personally believe you can look to big band 
    >ballads of the 40's or doo wop songs of the 50's and catch
    >a glimpse at grandparents of soft pop.
    Well, I guess that's the Brill Building heritage you are 
    thinking of. I'd like to add american folk music to the 
    list of soft pop's origins...and surf music, obviously, 
    which of course is a kind of folkmusic (mixed with 
    BTW, is it a coincidence that soft rock essentially is a 
    Californian type of music? Maybe the climate shaped the 
    music in the same way as it did to country in the midwest.
    What do you listees think?
    I have to thank you all for the huuuuge respons to my 
    question about Claudine Longet and The Four King Cousins. 
    I really don't have anything to add except for a few short
    Ian Chapman wrote:
    >Several nice tracks to choose, my personal faves being 
    >"Small Talk" (better known by Lesley Gore)
    Is this Small Talk the same Small Talk that Harpers 
    Bizarre released as a single?? It's a great song 
    Stewart Mason (I see you post on the Stereolab list, btw) 
    >I have the lovely Claudine's LOVE IS BLUE and it's [SNIP]
    >the album's highlight is Randy Newman's "Snow," a 
    remarkably pretty song
    Oh yes! Again, Harpers Bizarre did a wonderful version of 
    Snow as well, but I haven't heard anyone else's recording 
    of the song. Hey, why did so many artists cover Randy 
    Newman in the sixties? When you think about it, he was 
    totally unknown until Nilsson recorded his album of Newman
    songs in..was it 1971? Newman must've had a lot of music 
    industry contacts because his first album sold only a 
    thousand copies when it came out!
    Stewart Mason (again) wrote:
    >Given that "Classical Gas" is an instrumental, it would 
    >be interesting to hear what the Alan Copeland Singers did
    >to it
    I forgot to add that is a medley of Classical Gas and 
    Scarborough Fair - they essentially sing the latter to the
    chords and backing track of the sooner. It's an ok version,
    nothing particularly interesting IMO. Their version of This
    Guy's In Love With You on the other hand, now *that* is as 
    good as music can get!
    James F. Cassidy wrote:
    >Then Tobias, the Man of a Million Names, wrote:
    They seek him here, they seek him there.... :-)
    >Chris Montez certainly fits into this collection, as his 
    >A&M stuff was kind of a male version of Astrud Gilberto 
    >(breathy voice/no vibrato/semi-monotone).
    It's funny you bring this up. Before I looked up who was 
    singing what tracks on the Easy Listening Moods 
    compilation, I thought it was a woman who was singing 
    Chris Montez' songs! But he is obviously a man :-)
    My hands hurt.
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    Subject:     Re: Turtles Golden greats 1967
    Received:    06/13/99 11:31 pm
    From:        Big L,
    To:          Spectropop List,
    We were talking about this album a few days back. I found
    several copies for sale on ebay, in the $5 range, except
    for one which was claimed in mint condition which had
    reached $19.
    I downloaded the picture - view it at:
    Really neat 60s art.
    You fellow Beach Boys fans will like these:
    The person selling Landlocked claims it's pristine vinyl
    from Brother Records. How? I didn't think any of them made
    it to production. A cleverly disguised boot?
    Big L                   Check out my Radio Legends pages at:
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    Subject:     Turtles
    Received:    06/13/99 11:31 pm
    From:        Big L,
    To:          Spectropop List,
    >I can't think of another artist or group that got a rawer
    >deal from their record company...
    >White Whale was indeed an elusive label; I know little 
    >about the operation. Why do you think the Turtles were 
    >particularly given a raw deal, Lenny? 
    My understanding is that the label claimed ownership of
    their REAL NAMES. They were forbidden to perform in public
    using them, and just recently won back the right to do so.
    Hence, Flo and Eddie. That's a pretty raw deal in my book.
    I think White whale was a subsidiary of some big label,
    maybe Dunhill? Can't remember.
    Big L                   Check out my Radio Legends pages at:
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    Subject:     Turtles...
    Received:    06/13/99 11:31 pm
    From:        Carol Kaye,
    To:          Spectropop List,
    >"Smashed! Blocked!", which I understand was
    >actually recorded by Simon Napier Bell in LA with the 
    >clique (Wrecking Crew). Carol, any recollection of this? 
    >Anyone else know about this side?
    We did some of Turtles things there for awhile, then the 
    Turtles decided to try to do their "own" recordings (as 
    did a few others in the mid-60s) and after a month or so 
    of running up studio costs, etc. and couldn't do anything 
    like our bunch of studio musicians could do for them (in 3
    hours time), they all went back "quickly" to use our 
    regular bunches of 60-70 studio musicians. 
    Sorry, there's so many tunes we cut (about 12 or more a 
    day) and you got in the habit of recording and forgetting 
    them the minute you walked out of the studio doors to the 
    next date of the day, I don't recall that one. 
    Carol Kaye
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    Subject:     Tuesday and Apples
    Received:    06/13/99 11:31 pm
    From:        Dave Mirich, Dmirxxxxm
    To:          Spectropop List,
    Shelby writes:
    > I agree 100% with Tom Simon about Tuesday Weld.
    > She was definitely the knockout girl on TV in the late
    > 50's, early 60's. 
    Didn't she marry someone in the pen? and it scuttled her 
    career? Dave Mirich
    BTW, I've been spinning non-stop the new Apples in Stereo 
    CD recommended on this list (by I forgot who?). It is a 
    fantastic example of the 60s sound, and the song 
    Strawberry Delight (I think it's called, it's out in the 
    car) would have been a smash FM song in 1967-69 era - WOW!! 
    I LOVE this kind of stuff! This Schneider fellow from 
    The Apples produces Olivia Tremor Control, and other music
    from his studio in Denver named Pet Sounds. He also has an 
    early, adorable sounding, pre-Apples CD called Marbles.
    Dave Mirich
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    Subject:     Total Heart Throb
    Received:    06/13/99 11:32 pm
    From:        Big L,
    To:          Spectropop List,
    >And I STILL dream about Wrangler Jane!!!
    >I agree 100% with Tom Simon about Tuesday Weld.
    >She was definitely the knockout girl on TV in the late
    >50's, early 60's.
    >I wanted Shelley "Mary Stone" Fabares to be my older 
    >sister; and I wanted Annette to be my girlfriend.
    What is this, True Confessions? I nominate Barbara Eden..
    Who did you have a crush on: Patty or Cathy? (BTW, how
    many saw the reunion movie a few weeks ago? Not bad, and
    even used the old theme. Eddie Applegate looked great for
    his age (mid 60s.) Poor Patty looks older than he. I
    always wondered if he's Cristina Applegate's father? Some
    resemblance to my eyes.)
    I don't have to dream, because I got a heap of Patty Duke
    Shows and F Troop on VHS from when Nick At Night was
    running them. (Ha!)
    I also got a pristine copy of "Don't Just Stand There."
    Patty couldn't sing much, but after "Johnny Angel," all TV
    teenagers had to be pop stars.
    Big L                   Check out my Radio Legends pages at:
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    Subject:     girls,girls,girls.
    Received:    06/13/99 11:31 pm
    From:        james fisher, JHFAxxxxnet
    To:          Spectropop List,
    Annette. Tuesday. Sandra Dee. All so lovely. I would've 
    gladly traded my entire 45 collection for a date with any 
    one of 'em. Wasn't to be. Also Natalie Woods at the movies. 
    Sigh. On the covers thread....I picked up a few albums 
    (vinyl) at a thrift shop yesterday and talk about Bad Ideas...
    one of them is Freddy and the Dreamers doing a North of
    England version of Roy Orbison's "Cryin"'s so awful 
    it's actually good. Roy's big melodramas require Roy's big
    voice and poor Freddy squeaks his way through this one with
    one of the lamest covers I''ve ever heard. I seem to recall
    someone else having a crack at that tune in the late 70's (?) 
    and also turning in a feather-weight version. It became
    a hit I think. Some performers are tough to cover because 
    of their distinctive delivery and Roy Orbison is one of 
    them. On a happier note ,I got 3 Burt LPs--"Reach out" 
    "Make it easy.." and "Greatest hits", all in good shape. I 
    hadn't heard him sing "A house is not a home" before--as 
    much as I love Burt I kind of wish he had got Freddy and 
    the Dreamers to cover it. Also got a Leon Russell greatest
    hits, great album but perhaps not really of Spectropop 
    interest.(?) One more thing....I mentioned last year that 
    Andy Williams Christmas LP's are the Leaders of the Pack 
    in the thrift shop record piles and I'm pleased to report 
    that he's retained his title again this time around. An 
    impressive selection. Perhaps all the talk of he and 
    Claudine here on Spectropop lately will help move some of 
    his product....Cheers to all. Jim. 
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    Subject:     Tuesday Weld
    Received:    06/13/99 11:31 pm
    From:        chuck, chucxxxxcom
    To:          Spectropop List,
    Tuesday Weld also had a nice movie career. My favorite one
    is Lord Love a Duck, which has a sound track I'm curious 
    about and almost purchased recently. For more information 
    on her there is a nice site at:
    Easy listening in the Big Easy
       Shelby Riggs,
    > I agree 100% with Tom Simon about Tuesday Weld.
    > She was definitely the knockout girl on TV in the late
    > 50's, early 60's.
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    Subject:     More Knock-outs
    Received:    06/13/99 11:31 pm
    From:        Tom Waters, shangrixxxxom
    To:          Spectropop List,
    My favourite knock-out of the '60's wasn't on TV, but in
    movies, Yvette Mimiuex.  She looked amazing!  I agree that 
    Tuesday was great too!
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