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  • Date: 06/09/99

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       Volume #0270                            June 9, 1999   
           A spectacularly complete kind of music-making      
    Subject:     Re: Vogues "You're The One"
    Received:    06/09/99 12:29 am
    >From:        Michael
    To:          Spectropop List,
    Stewart's and Dave's comments about the Vogues rendition 
    of "You're The One" brings back lots of memories. Though 
    Petula Clark's version did appear on her "I Know A Place" 
    lp, it was never released as a single. The Vogues single 
    hit my neck of the woods (Raleigh, NC) like a ton of 
    bricks, with almost every local combo (we didn't call 
    them/us "bands"), doing their own cover - its was sooo 
    danceable and sooo garage-pop - a popular song with the 
    crowds and so fun to play. The Vogues began in Pittsburgh 
    as a doo-wop group called the Val-Aires (they returned to 
    that sound with "Turn Around, Look At Me" and "My Special 
    Angel"). Man, Pittsburgh of the early 60's must have been 
    a hoppin' place, with the Caravelles, the Marcels, the 
    Del-Vikings, Lou Christie, Chuck Jackson and Val-Aires/
    Vogues. A wonderful fusion of R&B, R&R and pop - my kind 
    of sound... 
     - michael
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    Subject:     Soft Pop's Birth
    Received:    06/09/99 1:18 am
    >From:        chuck,
    To:          Spectropop List,
    Hello to the list and thanks for all the intelligent and 
    fun posts I've read so far. I'm a new member and a short 
    introduction I think is in order. My first record was 
    "He's a Rebel" and I have enjoyed the wall of sound and 50/
    60s music ever since. I have an enormous 45 record 
    collection from that time. I live in New Orleans.
    I have developed a recent interest in the concept of soft 
    rock/pop music, (I've always liked the songs) I've been 
    thinking about the origins of this soft pop music and I 
    personally believe you can look to big band ballads of the
    40's or doo wop songs of the 50's and catch a glimpse at 
    grandparents of soft pop.
    It recently came to my attention that Patience & Prudence 
    released their 2 singles in 1956. It seems to me the best 
    definition of these 2 songs is soft pop or soft rock. I 
    can't imagine calling them anything else. Please help me 
    with any insights you have on this. Could these be the 
    first soft pop songs?
    One more observation. For those of you that own the Rhino 
    box set, "Nuggets", isn't it amazing how it comes to a 
    screeching uturn when "Sit Down I Think I Love You" comes 
    on, followed by a couple of other soft pop songs. 
    Thanks for a great list
    Michael "Doc Rock"  Kelly, wrote
    > The trio taped a seven-minute version called "Come Softly." 
    > When the professional version was recorded, the title 
    > was changed for reasons of taste, and Soft Rock was born!
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    Subject:     Claudine Longet/King Cousins
    Received:    06/09/99 12:29 am
    >From:        Ian Chapman,
    To:          Spectropop List,
    Tobias wrote:
    > .................the flyer lists two
    > artists I haven't heard of. Claudine Longet's "Love Is
    > Blue" (A&M, 1968) and The Four King Cousins' "Introducing..."
    > (Capitol, 1968)...the covers look great...what kind of
    > music did they make? The heading says "soft rock - late
    > sixties dreamy pops [sic]. dedicated to roger nichols".....
    > Come to think of it, I have The Four King Cousins's cover
    > of Love So Fine on tape, and it's brilliant! Is it from
    > "Introducing..."?
    > Tobias
    I'm sure this won't be the only reply to tell you that 
    Parisian-born Claudine Longet was once the wife of Andy 
    Williams, and she made several albums and singles for A&M 
    in the late 60s/early 70s. She sang in a wispy French 
    accent (had Priscilla Paris been born in France, she would
    have sounded like this!) and her repertoire sat comfortably
    next to the likes of Sergio Mendes and Burt Bacharach. 
    Several nice tracks to choose, my personal faves being "
    Small Talk" (better known by Lesley Gore) and the terrific
    "I Don't Intend To Spend Christmas Without You".
    After she and Andy had divorced, things went rapidly er, 
    downhill you might say, for Claudine. In 1976, in Aspen, 
    she shot her boyfriend, champion skier Vladimir "Spider" 
    Sabich, who, it was believed, was about to end the 
    relationship. She was convicted of "criminally negligent 
    homicide" and it was labelled a misdemeanour. The outcome 
    of the trial was a controversial one, and the media was 
    awash with "accidental or deliberate?" theories at the 
    time. Claudine spent just 30 days in jail. Some - 
    especially Sabich's family - believed she got off lightly.
    Claudine had reason to be thankful she had a high-powered 
    defense attorney in her corner - in fact she later married
    him! Apparently the couple still live in Aspen.
    The King Cousins? Am I correct in thinking these were the 
    collective offspring of the King Sisters? No whiff of 
    scandal there, I'm sure.........
    (Spectropop Babylon rules!)
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    Subject:     Introducing the Four King Cousins
    Received:    06/09/99 12:29 am
    >From:        Jack Madani,
    To:          Spectropop List, writes:
    >Come to think of it, I have The Four King Cousins's cover 
    >of Love So Fine on tape, and it's brilliant! Is it from 
    yes, Tober. It's a fantastic album, just outtasite. They 
    do a marvelous job on the Beach Boy classic God Only Knows
    --they change the phrasing on the opening couplet so that 
    it makes far more sense to the listener. But every cut on 
    their album is good. It'd make a natural twofer with Roger
    Nichols' Small Circle of Friends.
    and leave us not forget the 4KC's include one Tina Cole, 
    Robbie Douglas's wife and mother of the triplets on My 
    Three Sons. All my friends were going gaga over Jeannie 
    and Samantha Stevens; my total heartthrobs were Katie 
    Douglas and Mrs. Maxwell Smart (aka 99). Oh Katie!
    BTW, just saw Tina Cole on an episode of Adam-12. Her hair
    was all different, almost skanky, but you couldn't hide 
    those bright eyes and perky disposition. Officer Malloy 
    had the hots for her.
    One other quick note: Robbie Douglas was in the Yellow 
    Balloon. But I think we may have already covered that 
    Jack Madani - Princeton Day School, The Great Road,
       Princeton, NJ  08540
    "You knew the job was dangerous when you took it, Fred." 
     --Henry Cabot Henhouse III
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    Subject:     Claudine Longet
    Received:    06/09/99 12:29 am
    >From:        Paul Urbahns, Pauluxxxcom
    To:          Spectropop List,
    I have most everything Claudine Longet recorded, she had a
    very light (almost whispering voice that was very popular 
    with DJ's (most of which were guys) in the 60s. I am still
    looking for "Sugar Me" if anyone on the Spectropop List 
    has it please let me know. She co-starred with Peter 
    Sellers in The Party and sang the title song for the movie
    "A Flea In Her Ear" which starred Rex Harrison.
    Paul Urbahns
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    Subject:     Claudine Longet/Hamilton Camp
    Received:    06/09/99 12:29 am
    >From:        Stewart Mason,
    To:          Spectropop List,
    Tobias asked:
    >I found a flyer a Japanese guy once sent me along with a 
    >tape of Roger Nichols' album. Next to RN, Harpers Bizarre,
    >Chris Montez and The Free Design, the flyer lists two 
    >artists I haven't heard of. Claudine Longet's "Love Is 
    >Blue" (A&M, 1968) and The Four King Cousins' "Introducing..." 
    >(Capitol, 1968)...the covers look great...what kind of
    >music did they make? 
    I have the lovely Claudine's LOVE IS BLUE and it's 
    excellent late-60s adult pop somewhere between the late 
    albums by Astrud Gilberto and PORTRAIT OF PETULA-era Pet 
    Clark. Besides a wonderful rendition of Paul Mauriat's 
    classic title track (fans of this song should find Future 
    Bible Heroes' 1997 EP LONELY DAYS, which has a beautiful 
    synth-based version), the album's highlight is Randy 
    Newman's "Snow," a remarkably pretty song delivered in 
    Claudine's endearing voice, which has both a heavy French 
    accent and a noticeable lisp, which makes everything she 
    sings sound like baby talk. I think her voice is adorable,
    but if you're not a fan of either Astrud or the current 
    crop of artless female indiepop singers with wispy voices 
    and wobbly pitch, you might find it kinda irritating.
    Fans of the 70s golden age of Saturday Night Live might 
    remember an incredibly mean-spirited and very funny piece 
    called "The Claudine Longet Invitational," aired sometime 
    after Claudine (she claimed accidentally) shot her 
    professional-skier boyfriend. The sketch is nothing but 
    film clips of skiers wiping out, accompanied by gunshots 
    and an announcer exclaiming, "Oh no! He's just been 
    accidentally shot by Claudine Longet!" Other biographical 
    trivia: during her fairly brief late-60s recording career,
    Claudine was married to Andy Williams.
    And then Dave Feldman shares in my joy:
    >> Hamilton Camp -- "Here's To You" / "Leavin' Anyhow"
    >But I love the "Here's To You" album. To me, it opened up 
    >Camp emotionally in the same kind of way that "Pleasures 
    >of the Harbor" did to Phil Ochs. I have to admit my 
    >favorite Camp song is his most commercial and pop-ish -- 
    >"Here's To You" -- and it just killed me when this wasn't a
    >big hit single (I think it rose to the nether-regions of 
    >the Hot 100), but I'm fond of the whole first side of the 
    I'm right with Dave on this one, "Here's To You" is an 
    incredible single, with this unbelievably catchy scatted 
    chorus that will not leave your head for hours. The 
    closest analogue I can think of would be Nilsson's first 
    two albums, which may help explain why, sadly, the song 
    was not a hit; it's wonderful but it's just slightly too 
    odd to really break through big.
    >The sound of Here's To You is quite different from 
    >all of his earlier albums -- you might recognize a few of 
    >the names : Van Dyke Parks; Larry Knechtel; Hal Blaine 
    >AND Earl Palmer; Bud Shank, used to great effect on flute,
    >among others. Along with some of Tim Hardin's best work, 
    >this album includes some of my favorite folk-jazz fusions.
    And here Dave says the magic words. What does my idol Van 
    Dyke do on this album? I suppose a CD reissue is too much 
    to hope for, but is the vinyl at all easy to locate?
    Oh, and I forgot to mention two of my other finds of the 
    singles spree: Dino, Desi and Billy's "I'm A Fool" is now 
    one of my favorite "Louie Louie" ripoffs, and I'm amazed 
    that Adam Faith's delirious "It's Alright" didn't become a
    frat-rock perennial.
    NP: Where's You Learn To Kiss That Way? -- The Field Mice
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    Subject:     Ladybug Transistor
    Received:    06/09/99 12:29 am
    >From:        Dave Mirich, Dmxxxcom
    To:          Spectropop List,
    How funny, reading my post about Ladybug Transistor, I 
    noticed that I didn't do a very good job editing. Because 
    I use a voice dictation system, sometimes things slide 
    past me. For example, I said in my post that their sound 
    "is unique to might years". Obviously, the voice dictation 
    systems must have known that what I really was saying was 
    "it is unique to my ears". Also, I meant to say that their
    most recent CD is very worthwhile, whereas their first CD 
    is a bit too conceptual for me.
    Dave Mirich
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    Subject:     music to watch [the] girls [go] by
    Received:    06/09/99 12:29 am
    >From:        Jack Madani,
    To:          Spectropop List,
    Having now become interested in .mp3, I have managed to 
    find an awesome file somewhere in the internet of Andy 
    Williams singing the Bob Crewe number, "Music To Watch The
    Girls Go By." [sic] It's a bit more uptempo than Crewe's 
    instrumental version, and it has something of the air of a
    Julius Wechter number, but it still rocks, and it's got the
    fuzz guitar on the opening. The lyrics are kinda groovy, 
    too: "...which is the name of the game watch a guy watch a
    dame on any street in town...." On the middle section, Andy
    breaks into two-part harmony a la Skeeter Davis or Vikki 
    Carr on her early poppish numbers, or even Andy Williams 
    on "Can't Get Used To Losing You." Oh wait, I already *am*
    talking about Andy Williams, aren't I?
    Has to be Hal Blaine on the drums, too.
    How many scores of great recordings in the "big beat" 
    "young" style are there by such older generation singers as
    Williams, Carr, Dean Martin, and so forth? I bet there's a 
    bazillion. I even like those Sonny Burke-arranged Sinatra 
    Note to Tobywan Kenobe: Andy Williams was married to 
    Claudine Longet when she did that thing she did that 
    nobody talks about in polite company.....
    Jack Madani - Princeton Day School, The Great Road,
       Princeton, NJ  08540
    "You knew the job was dangerous when you took it, Fred." 
     --Henry Cabot Henhouse III
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    Subject:     Re: The Case Of The Missing Vocals
    Received:    06/09/99 12:29 am
    >From:        Big L,
    To:          Spectropop List,
    > I have a question which occured to me today while I was 
    > listening to my local oldies station--they were playing 
    > The Mamas and the Papas "California Dreamin" and the 
    > vocals had somehow all but been wiped off the track, along 
    > with some of the backing. 
    This is from a few issues back - sorry, just getting
    caught up on my e-mail. The M's & P's were one group, that
    for some reason, always seemed to monkey with the mix on
    stereo album versions as opposed to the mono single
    version. I never noticed it that much on "California
    Dreamin'," but take "I Saw Her Again Last Night" - on the
    stereo mix, the lead vocal is almost non existent. Other
    songs of theirs that were changed when issued in stereo
    were "Words Of Love" and "Creeque Alley." 
    Re The 5th Dimension: I had a 8 track of "Stoned Soul
    Picnic" that I wore out. My favorite cut: "It'll Never Be
    The Same Again," one of the few that featured a solo lead
    by Billy Davis, Jr. A powerful song. "Lovin' Stew" is also
    very good. I wish I could find that album again, or get a
    taped dub. I dubbed the 8 track in it's later days, but
    hiss and drag do not a good listening experience make.
    Big L                   Check out my Radio Legends pages at:
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    Subject:     Records I picked up today
    Received:    06/09/99 12:29 am
    >From:        Ygdrasil Ivanisevic,
    To:          Spectropop List,
    Found some really great records today:
    *** V/A - "Easy Listening Moods - A Classic Compilation" 
    (A&M). The title is *very* misleading, it should say "Soft 
    Rock Moods" instead! Probably the greatest compilation 
    I've heard in a long long time...the tracklisting is:
    Alan Copeland Singers - "This Guy's In Love..."
    Sergio Mendes - The Fool On The Hill
    Liza Minelli - Leaving On A Jet Plane [this one is AMAZING!!!]
    Chris Montez - The More I See You
    The Sandpipers - Guantenamera
    B. Bacharach - South American Getaway
    Claudine Longet - A Man And A Woman [so *this* is what she sounds like!]
    Nick De Caro & Orchestra - Happy Heart
    A. Copeland Singers - Classical Gas [written by "Williams". Paul 
    BJ Thomas - "Raindrops Keep Falling..."
    Sergio Mendes - Look Of Love
    We Five - Cast Your Fate To The Wind
    Bacharach - Make It Easy On Yourself
    The Sandpipers - Quando M'Innamora
    Paul Williams - Just An Old Fashioned Love Song
    We Five - You Were On My Mind
    Nick De Caro & Orchestra - Caroline, No
    Liza Minelli - For No One
    Jimmie Rodgers - Child Of Clay
    Chris Montez - Call Me
    I could go on at length on how great almost every track 
    on this compilation is but it will just clutter up the 
    list, so please pick this record up if you don't already 
    have it! Did you, Carol Kaye, play on any of these songs? 
    I assume most of them were recorded for A&M in Los Angeles.
    *** Edmundo Ros - "Ros Album of Calypsos"
    Perhaps not a Spectropop-list type of record, 
    of Van Dyke Parks' "Discover America" *will* love it as 
    the music is *very* similar! It's fairly obvious it was 
    this type of music that influenced VDP. Ros' album is from
    1969, btw. As the title implies, this is great calypso 
    music from the west indies. I miss the steel drums though.
    *** Stan Getz - What The World Needs Now, Getz Plays The 
    Music Of Bacharach & David.
    This is pretty good, but not the best Bacharach covers 
    album I've heard. It's quite hard to hear the original 
    songs sometimes during all the jazz workouts...and the 
    idea to speed up A House Is Not A Home and turn it into 
    swing jazz was probably not the best in hindsight. The 
    emotions you hear in, say, Warwick's versions of the same 
    songs sometimes get lost on this of jazz 
    music will probably like it though. From 1967. 
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    Subject:     Same tune, different lyrics
    Received:    06/09/99 12:29 am
    >From:        Ian Chapman,
    To:          Spectropop List,
    Will Stos wrote:
    >Not being alive back in the 50s, 60s, and 70s, I was 
    >wondering how common it was to use a tune and write new 
    >lyrics to it. Darlene Love recorded "Christmas Baby Please
    >Come Home," and "Johnny Baby Please Come Home," and the 
    >Sapphires did it with "Slow Fizz," and "Baby You've Got Me." 
    >What other examples are out there? 
    Hi Will,
    Well, apart from the famous "Don't Hurt My Little Sister"/
    "Things Are Changing" example we all know, there was also 
    the Beach Boys' "County Fair", which Brian re-molded into 
    the Castells' "I Do" on Warner Bros.....although unlike 
    the examples you quote, neither used the same backing 
    One that did, however, was Maxine Brown's girl-group 
    styled Wand single "Little Girl Lost", which had a lyrical
    re-write and became "Hands Off, He's Mine", cut by the 
    Shirelles, but left in the vaults until 1987, when it came
    out on the "Lost & Found" UK album of unissued tracks.
    Motown used to do it, but again, their "alternative" 
    versions weren't usually released at the time. However, 
    some have surfaced over the years with occasional openings
    of the vaults. A few examples that come to mind are Kim 
    Weston's "I'll Never See My Love Again", which was 
    alternatively done as "Do Like I Do". There was also the 
    Velvelettes' "These Things Will Keep Me Loving You".......
    in the 70s a UK Motown Chartbusters album (Vol. 6) 
    mistakenly used an alternative version that had totally 
    different lyrics to the original single version. The 
    Supremes also cut "My World Is Empty Without You" as "We 
    Couldn't Get Along Without You", an in-house tribute to 
    Berry Gordy that later appeared on their 25th Anniversary 
    And slightly off-topic, but Abba (well, they did do some 
    nice 60s-inspired stuff) re-did "Happy Hawaii" as "Why Did
    It Have To Be Me" in the 70s.
    Seems that as a general rule, the alternatives were kept 
    in the can.
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    Subject:     So Goes Love
    Received:    06/09/99 12:29 am
    >From:        Ian Chapman,
    To:          Spectropop List,
    Stewart wrote:
    >...............of Goffin and King's wonderful "So 
    > Goes Love." Did anyone else record this song and was any 
    > version ever released at the time? 
    Hi Stewart,
    In the UK, a version of "So Goes Love" was issued in 1967 
    by Shirley Abicair on the Pye label. You can find it on 
    Sequel's "Here Come The Girls" Vol. 6.
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    Subject:     Sunshine Pop
    Received:    06/08/99 12:22 am
    >From:        DJ JimmyB, DJJimxxxcom
    To:          Spectropop List,
    WMBR-FM in Cambridge, MA, 88.1 will feature a "Sunshine 
    Pop" show on Tuesday, June 22 from 6-8a.m. with DJ Jimmy 
    Botticelli on his weekly show "Jimmy's Easy", easy and 
    busy listening, cool and strange instrumentals and over 
    the top sunshine pop every week
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