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  • Date: 06/07/99

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       Volume #0268                           June 6, 1999   
           The Teenager Records Made For The Hit Parade       
    Subject:     flips and rarities
    Received:    06/07/99 12:08 am
    >From:        john rausch,
    To:          Spectropop List,
    Jamie wrote about a new Ronettes cd he found: Sounds 
    interesting, what is on the front cover? Also of interest 
    is a new import cd called Phil Spector`s flips and 
    rarities. PS001,is the only thing I can find for the label,
    I have a feeling it`s from the Marginal label tho as it 
    sounds like their quality output, from satisfactory to 
    downright bad. Sounds to all be dubbed from record. And lots
    of typos. It is sort of a "best of" from the original 
    Japanese import 3 cd set called Phil Spector masterpieces 
    1,2 and 3. The cover is the famous cartoon parade from the
    2 lp set. Some tracks are really not that rare in my 
    opinion, but are included. All these tracks are supposedly 
    either written by of produced by Phil. 
    I idolize you-Ike & Tina
    Black Pearl - Sonny Charles & Checkmates
    Dream For Sale - Gene Pitney
    Some Of Your Loving - Johnny Nash
    World Of Tears - Johnny Nash
    When You Dance - Billy Storm
    Spanish Harlem - Santo & Johnny
    Mr Robin  - Spectors 3
    Some Of Your Lovin - Emil O Conner
    I Love You Betty - Terry Day
    Thats Alright Baby - Gary Crosby
    Yes I Love You - Paris Sisters
    Thats What Girls Are For - Timothy Hay
    Where Can You Be - Tony & Joe
    Raincoat In The River - Sammy Turner
    To Know Him Is To Love Him - Lesley Gore
    Be My Girl Ray Peterson
    Unchained Melody - Blackwells
    Oh Why - Teddy Bears
    Home Of The Brave - Bonnie & Treasures
    Why Cant A Boy & Girl Just Stay In Love - April Stevens
    Why Don`t They Let Us Fall In Love - Ronettes
    The Screw - Crystals
    Bumbershoot - Phil Harvey (Uncle Phil)
    Woman In Love - Ronettes
    He's A Quiet Guy - Darlene Love
    Here It Comes & Here I Go - Jeri Bo Keno
    Puddin n Tain - Alleycats
    Dream For Sale - Joey Paige
    I'm So Happy (tra la la) - Ducanes
    John Rausch
    Phil Spector`s Wall Of Sxxxp://
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    Subject:     Perry Botkin...
    Received:    06/07/99 12:08 am
    >From:        Carol Kaye,
    To:          Spectropop List,
    Someone asked about Perry Botkin, a very dear friend of 
    mine. We have lunch sometimes together. He lives in the 
    hills behind Studio City, a beautiful glass home there, 
    lovely man. 
    Perry is still very active with recording, but only with 
    his own home-studio, doing some avant-guard stuff. I'm not
    especially a fan of avant-guard things but his are 
    marvelous creations. There is a link to Perry's site where
    you can hear some soundbytes of his latest things....just 
    click on the links site. Think you'll love his music.
    There are many other names from the 60s there too, their 
    sites and all. I've been in communication with Upton, the 
    lead singer of Spiral Staircase who lives in Alabama, and 
    Jewel Akens who lives here in LA, plus many others mostly 
    here or in Nashville.
    Janis Ian just lately moved back to LA to do her album 
    here, she was going to hire me for it..we'll see. She had 
    a health problem there for awhile but is absolutely fine 
    now, going like the wind. 
    Let's see, who else...yes, just bumped into Maxine Weldon 
    who was here for her live show, something about "Blues 
    Women", and she sat in and sang at Earl Palmer's great 
    opening Jazz Night at RIX in Santa Monica (every Tuesday 
    night a "jazz night jam") was terrific.
    Maxine and I both fell out at the mention of our names....
    I've always tho't the greatest of her singing, I remember 
    her well and there we both were - it was so wonderful to 
    see her again. Turns out I played on her first album in 
    1969, produced by Bobby Shad (good guy, sharp as they come) 
    for Mainstream, with Earl on drums on that one. 
    She wowed the crowd (sung some great jazz) which included 
    Mike Stoller (of Leiber and Stoller) who has lived here in
    LA for 10 yrs, loves it. Mike and I kibbitzed about the "ol' 
    days, Phil Spector etc.".
    I spoke w/David Axelrod the other week, good ol' Dave, a 
    little "shy" yet ("this g----m music today is s---, 
    there's no g----m music out worth listening to...ours was 
    the best of times" etc.etc.etc.). We mused over his "Song 
    Of Innocence" lps we cut (again Earl on drums) back then, 
    and the Hampton Hawes "Northern Windows" 70s lp at Fantasy
    he produced. He's fine, doing OK, but I sense that everyone
    really misses the times when we were all active and very 
    busy together cutting tons of stuff.
    Perry misses it too, but stays busy with his music. He 
    runs, and in general takes good care of himself. He's not 
    too much into "the good ol' days" musings all that much 
    but we do discuss a lot of our people, where they are, how
    they're doing, etc.
    Bob Alcivar is having a website being done by the same 
    webman I have (see my Message Board: 
    and he sent me his latest CD, the "Symphonic Sounds of the
    Beach Boys" music, it's great, w/The Royal Philharmonic 
    Orchestra (what a great orchestra!), and his arranging on 
    that will make you cry, Brian's music sounds so terrific...
    The wonderful Bob Alcivar (I worked for him on his first 
    film score, "Butterflies Are Free" and noted then what a 
    fantastic writer he was; he later wrote for Manhattan 
    Transfer too - many other projects, but lately, mostly 1-
    man synthesizer TV scores etc.) He will be doing some 
    project soon and will let you know.
    In the meantime, keep in touch with my Links site as his 
    site will go up, sounds and all, within a week or so. 
    Announcements are all on my Message Board too, what people
    are doing, many current things like that.
    Yes, I have to agree, the 60s music can't be beat. The 
    sounds are real (no phony paper bag drums, no ringing 
    undefined bass sounds there like now) and the music and 
    singing was sincere, very real. 
    Nowadays you have to hunt for anything with any feeling in
    it....altho' the musicianship is sometimes better....more 
    refined, but still we played hard and with a lot of 
    feeling which doesn't seem to get on the recordings these 
    days. Yes, it was definitely a lot more fun back then. And
    we miss it and each other too, but some of us still keep 
    active, and see quite a few of each other.
    I'm playing jazz these days, currently going to be at the 
    Jazz Bakery this coming Tuesday and Wednesday, June 8th 
    and 9th, with the great jazz sax legend Ray Pizzi and fine
    studio-jazz guitarist Mitch Holder. They're starting to 
    play our album on the jazz station KLON here and another 
    station in Seattle "Thumbs Up" which is selling very well.
    If anyone in LA wants to come, the Jazz Bakery - 08 -11PM 
    both on Tuesday and Wed., phone is (310) 271-9039 (no 
    reservations necessary). It is at 3233 Helms Ave., Culver 
    City, just east of the San Diego Freeway between Robertson
    and La Cienega, and 1/2 block so. of Venice Blvd. This is a
    nice place, safe, free parking, $15.00 and there's food and
    drinks available in the lobby (optional, not required at 
    Carol Kaye   (for links)
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    Subject:     Turtle Soup
    Received:    06/07/99 12:08 am
    >From:        Stewart Mason,
    To:          Spectropop List,
    Good to see the list is getting back into activity again! 
    I just recently purchased the original vinyl of the 
    Turtles' swan song, TURTLE SOUP, which I've been looking 
    for for ages. (I was able to get all the other vinyl 
    reissues Rhino did back in the early 80s, but I never 
    could find this one.) The album sounds even better than it
    did when I played my sister's scratched-up copy when I was 
    a kid. But I've always wondered something that I've never 
    seen addressed: How did it happen that Ray Davies produced
    this album? Davies was never very active as an outside 
    producer, as far as I know, and it's not like they were on
    the same label or anything. Whose idea was it? Does anyone 
    know how the sessions went?
    While I'll always think BATTLE OF THE BANDS is the Turtles' 
    musical and conceptual masterpiece ("Surfer Dan"! "I'm 
    Chief Kamanawanalea (We're the Royal Macadamia Nuts)"! 
    "Elenore"!), TURTLE SOUP is one of the great soft-pop 
    albums of the era, heads and shoulders above their 
    occasionally brilliant but very spotty earlier albums. 
    Actually, that reminds me of a related question -- two of 
    Rhino's 80s vinyl reissues (The Turtles' HAPPY TOGETHER 
    and the Monkees' MISSING LINKS) feature previously 
    unreleased versions of Goffin and King's wonderful "So 
    Goes Love." Did anyone else record this song and was any 
    version ever released at the time? It seems odd that such 
    a remarkable song would have two great renditions left in 
    the can -- the Turtles version is one of their all-time 
    best tracks -- but on the other hand, maybe the lyrics 
    were considered way too bitter for the time. It *is* an 
    awfully cynical lyric. 
    NP: Here Comes Everybody -- The Wake
    Stewart Allensworth Mason       "Snake handling, but that's more on Dad's
    Box 40172                        side.  And it has nothing to do with
    Albuquerque NM 87196             religion, it's just which idiot will           pick up the poisonous snakes."
    ************************HAPPY MUSIC FOR NICE 
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    Subject:     Del-Fi Records Story
    Received:    06/07/99 12:08 am
    >From:        Paul MacArthur,
    Here's my latest for you to check out: Del-Fi Records 
    story in the Houston Press. Quotes from Bruce Johnston, 
    Bob Keane and Elliot Easton. Anyone interested in the 
    story of a west coast independent label from the late 50s 
    and early 60s will like it (I hope).
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    Subject:     Ladybug Transistor
    Received:    06/07/99 12:08 am
    >From:        Dave Mirich, Dmxxxcom
    To:          Spectropop List,
    I recently read a review of a new CD by a band called 
    Ladybug Transistor. The reviewer, Michael Roberts of 
    Westword magazine in Denver (a huge Brian Wilson fan) 
    compared the mood of the CD to that of Pet Sounds. Last 
    year, the best thing I heard was the CD "Free Mars" by 
    Lusk (and also the Ya Lo Tengo CD, as well as "Tone Soul 
    Evolution" by the Apples in Stereo). This year, I would 
    have to say that this new CD by Ladybug Transistor is my 
    favorite so far. The strings and horns are played 
    exquisitely by non-studio musicians. The vocals and 
    harmonies are warm, subdued, and gentle. The sound is 
    unique to might years, yet certain songs evoke 
    remembrances of Bacharach, Love, and even Pet Sounds. I'm 
    not overly fond of the first CD from Ladybug Transistor, 
    except for the cover of Dennis Wilson's "Thoughts of You" 
    which is an outstanding alternative rock re-working of 
    this lovely song. However, on their first CD, the band 
    gives the best of the High Llamas a run for its money. I 
    don't often recommend new music, so you should run out and
    buy this CD and let us know what you think.
    Dave Mirich
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    Subject:     Minute Masters
    Received:    06/07/99 12:08 am
    >From:        Paul Urbahns, Pauluxxxcom
    To:          Spectropop List,
    Here's a new subject about 60s music. On another list 
    Mike Devitch wrote:
    I read in the country music column this morning that the 
    Oak Ridge Boys have released a 60-second single for those 
    odd moments when stations don't have enough time to play a
    three-minute single. Great idea for them to get back on the
    radio again and create publicity at the same time.
    My response was:
    It's actually not a new idea. Capitol records issued at 
    least two albums in a series called Minute Masters. I have
    the one by Nat King Cole and there was one done with Buck 
    Owens songs. I remember using these albums when I was in 
    radio, back in the days when you had news every hour and 
    had to segue into it. Many people would use an 
    instrumental and fade it out, but these albums were 
    professionally edited versions of the songs all playing 
    about a minute so if you didn't have time for a full 
    record you could pull one of these and play a cut. Minute 
    Masters-good idea, but I don't know if they issued any 
    more than the two I mentioned. They were issued in the 60s.
    Paul Urbahns
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    Subject:     Re: Come Softly
    Received:    06/07/99 12:08 am
    >From:        Michael "Doc Rock"  Kelly,
    To:          Spectropop List,
    > BTW--someone told me that the song was called
    > simply "Come Softly" but that this title was considered 
    > just a bit too suggestive for the times...true? 
    The original title was "Come Softly." This was when the 
    group was a duo, Gretchen and Barbara. Gary was added when
    he happened to sing "Come Go With Me," and Gretchen thought
    the two songs went well together.
    The trio taped a seven-minute version called "Come Softly." 
    When the professional version was recorded, the title 
    was changed for reasons of taste, and Soft Rock was born!
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    Subject:     singles questions
    Received:    06/07/99 12:08 am
    >From:        Stewart Mason,
    To:          Spectropop List,
    In a further attempt to spur discussion, here's part of a 
    haul of singles I bought out of the 10-cent box at Krazy 
    Kat records here in Albuquerque. I'd really appreciate any
    information I can get on them.
    Hamilton Camp -- "Here's To You" / "Leavin' Anyhow"
    Both songs written by Hamilton Camp and produced and 
    arranged by, of all people, Felix Pappalardi. I think now 
    that I was mistaken, but I was under the impression that 
    Hamilton Camp, before he went full-time into acting, was a
    folkie. These are definitely pop songs, of a rather 
    Broadway-inspired bent. I could hear Petula Clark covering
    them on one of her late 60s LPs if that gives you an idea. 
    Are these songs representative of Camp's music career, and
    if so, which albums are recommended?
    The McCoys -- "Ko-Ko" / "Don't Worry Mother, Your Son's 
    Heart Is Pure"
    Okay, I was vaguely familiar with the Feldman/Goldstein/
    Gottehrer a-side, but oh my god! This b-side is exactly 
    why I constantly prowl the cheap bins at record stores -- 
    you occasionally find bizarre gems like this. Written by 
    head McCoy Rick Derringer (then still known as Rick 
    Zehringer), "Don't Worry Mother" is a psych-influenced 
    freakout, complete with sitar and lyrics as weird as the 
    title. When was this released? My knowledge of the McCoys 
    is pretty hazy, but I was under the impression that their 
    heyday was 65-66, and this song is awfully forward-looking
    to be that early. Also, is this available on any CD 
    reissues and did the McCoys release any other lite-psych 
    goodies like this?
    Rejoice! -- "Golden Gate Park" (mono/stereo promo)
    On Dunhill, no date (sounds like 1968 to me), written by 
    Tom and Nancy Brown (doesn't ring a bell), produced by the
    great Steve Barri, arranged by the equally great Jimmie 
    Haskell. Soft pop triangulated somewhere between "San 
    Francisco," "The Rain, the Park and Other Things" and "
    MacArthur Park." Does anyone know anything more?
    The Turtles -- "Let Me Be" / "Your Maw Said You Cried"
    Total geek question: I notice that the b-side's matrix 
    number is W 116 RE-1, which suggests that there's another 
    version of this song that got at least as far as mastering. 
    Anyone have any details on this? (What can I say, I'm 
    one of those people who finds stuff like that endlessly 
    The Vogues -- "You're the One" / "Some Words" 
    The Vogues -- "The Land of Milk and Honey" / "True Lovers"
    "You're the One" is the Tony Hatch/Petula Clark hit, one 
    of those rare Petula covers that's actually pretty good. 
    (How many terrible covers of "Downtown" have you heard?) 
    Both of these singles are on Pittsburgh's Co & Ce label, 
    so am I correct in assuming they pre-date "Five O'Clock 
    World"? The Vogues are one of those bands I quite like but
    know next to nothing about.
    Stewart Allensworth Mason       "Snake handling, but that's more on Dad's
    Box 40172                        side.  And it has nothing to do with
    Albuquerque NM 87196             religion, it's just which idiot will           pick up the poisonous snakes."
    ************************HAPPY MUSIC FOR NICE 
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    Subject:     More Fleetwoods
    Received:    06/07/99 12:08 am
    >From:        Jamie LePage,
    To:          Spectropop List,
    Doc Rock wrote:
    >I forwarded the Fleetwoods comments to Gretchen and invited 
    >her to join SpectroPop.
    Wow! That would be amazing. I "Truly Do" hope she signs on 
    for at least a little while. 
    The Fleetwoods records move me in a very special way. I can 
    listen to and analyze Spector, Brian Wilson, etc., but to me, 
    the Fleetwoods music transends all that intellectual 
    appreciation. For some reason, late at night, I tend to play 
    the Fleetwoods more often than any other artist. I never get 
    tired of their music. The productions are not dazzling, and 
    many of their tracks are covers, yet for some reason I do 
    not fully understand, their music holds great appeal to me. 
    Just listen to their interpretation of Skylark, for example.
    Thanks, Michael, for inviting her to the list. 
    All the best,
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    Subject:     Nuggets box
    Sent:        06/05/19 1:23 am
    Received:    06/05/99 12:15 am
    >From:        Glenn Sadin,
    To:          Spectropop List,
    Many of the bands only released a few singles because many
    of them recorded for tiny independent labels who either 
    folded quickly, or were self-financed releases. Nearly 
    every track on the box is excellent, but my faves are the 
    Dovers, a mysterious band from Santa Barbara, CA. Domenic 
    Priore has been trying to gather information on the band, 
    and has been in contact with their drummer, but no one so 
    far has been able to locate a photo of them. I have a 
    cassette of all of their super-rare singles (on Miramar 
    and Reprise), and they are definitely overdue for reissue.
    A great, overlooked band.
    By the way, I had the interesting experience of playing 
    guitar, bass and drums on a recording session with Sky 
    Saxon of the Seeds last weekend. He's one odd character, 
    fer shur! 
    >From:        Runar Sorgaard,
    >I'll soon be getting the Nuggets Box Set on tape, the
    >tracklisting looks *very* interesting! I'd like to hear
    >some opinions about the artists....what are the highlights
    >on the discs....the whole idea of the box is interesting to
    >me...are there actual reasons why most of these bands only
    >released a couple of singles and then completely
    >disappeared? It seems like not many managed to release
    >more than one album!
    Guitarist/Vocalist/Songwriter for THE BERKELEY SQUIRES:
    Read about JAPANESE POP MUSIC from the '50s to the '90s!:
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