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  • Date: 05/16/99

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       Volume #0264                            May 17, 1999   
               a new stereophonic sound spectacular           
    Subject:     Asking....
    Received:    05/16/99 10:18 pm
    >From:        Carol Kaye,
    To:          Spectropop List,
    for prayers for the late Tommy Tedesco's grandson namesake
    -- he's had a setback and now a liver transplant is 
    This little newborn baby is a fighter, his father Denny 
    Tedesco told me (Denny btw has a film in the can of many 
    of us, interesting discussions of our dates, talking about
    all our 60s dates, the music & stars etc.). We're hoping, 
    fingers and toes crossed, with a lot of heavy prayers for 
    this little guy who means a lot to us all......thank-you, 
    I'll keep you posted. 
    Carol Kaye
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    Subject:     Webb, 5D, and Greenwich
    Received:    05/16/99 10:18 pm
    >From:        David Feldman,
    To:          Spectropop List,
    Monsieur Le Page had many interesting things to say.  So 
    let me quote them and add little of substance:
    > A few thoughts on Jimmy Webb and the Fifth Dimension:
    > I have a CD (of rather questionable origin) called the 
    > Jimmy Webb Songbook (Real Music RMD-1004). It apparently 
    > is mastered from vinyl, but the sound is good enough for 
    > me and the track listing is wonderful.
    {My only question: why no "Wichita Lineman?" To me, that's
    the indispensable Webb/Campbell song.
    Otherwise, it's a fab album, and if It really ends with 
    the 5D's "Rosecrans Blvd., it's even cooler. I 
    participated on a Jimmy Webb chat on Prodigy right before 
    the release of "Ten Easy Pieces." Few folks turned out for
    it, so he answered all of my questions. The one of most 
    concern to me, though, was the story behind "Rosecrans." 
    The plotline of the song, as you might guess, was a 
    figment of his imagination, but he made it clear that he 
    got the idea for the song while driving south on the San 
    Diego Freeway (passing the Rosecrans Blvd. exit sign many 
    a time) while visiting a flight attendant who he implied 
    relieved him of his virginity. I'll never think of the 
    song quite the same way again.
    Webb was most articulate and very funny and charming.
    I love much of Webb's work with Garfunkel, too. And if 
    there were justice in the world, some of his idiosyncratic
    ballads, like "Crying in My Sleep" and "Scissors Cut" would
    be classics now.
    I'm currently recovering from a nasty flu. One of the 
    symptoms is a clogged Eustachian tube. My hearing is about
    60%, and a loss of much of high-end frequencies, which is 
    great when you are trying to kill the sound of jackhammers
    outside your apartment, but not so great when listening to 
    new CD's. I assume one of the symptoms of a blocked 
    Eustachian tube is NOT hearing instruments when none are 
    So what's the deal with the remastering of songs Ellie 
    Greenwich's "I Can Hear Music: The Ellie Greewich Story." 
    I own the Raindrops' singles. I own "Let It Be Written, 
    Let It Be Sung." The implication in the liner notes is 
    that the material in the CD is cleaned up versions of 
    existing records. But that isn't the single version of 
    "The Boy You Can't Forget" on the CD; that's a bastardized 
    version of my beloved "Maybe I Know" (which I prefer to 
    Leslie Gore's). All of the stuff from "Let It Be Written" 
    sounds awful. What's the deal with these arrangements?
    In happier news, I finally bagged "The Flowerpot Men" in 
    the same stash. That's the next CD going into the player.
    Dave Feldman
    CD of the Week: "Utopia Parkway" (Fountains of Wayne)
    Movie of the Week:  "Go"
    Word of the Week: nonce
    Best Time Killer of the 90's:  Filling out the UPDATED gender survey at
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    Subject:     Twiggy-P5-Innocence-Tradewinds
    Received:    05/16/99 10:18 pm
    >From:        Jack Madani,
    To:          Spectropop List,
    >I've just finished reading Twiggy's 
    >autobiography, and I can only recommend it warmly to 
    >anyone interested in the sixties and the London scene.
    >and Pizzicato Five's cover of
    >the Beach Boys' "Passing By". 
    Har!  I wish I could hear THAT.
    And, tying Twiggy into this post, the first P5 thing I 
    ever heard was a tape that my sister-in-law had of a tune 
    that was called something like Twiggy Meets James Bond or 
    something. Like a collage of John Barry, Sergio Mendes on 
    speed, and Specs Nitzschke (I really oughtta learn how to 
    spell that last name). That one track sold me on the whole
    Pizzicato Five trip.
    As for the Innocence, there's a pair of Innocence tracks 
    on a Kama Sutra Singles cd compilation, vol.2 I think. The
    disc is short on time, but easy to find real cheap (under 5
    bucks, e.g.).
    As for the Tradewinds, I have heard some others of their 
    cuts, including a groovy Club 17 and a boss Girl From 
    Greenwich Village ("she drives a Mercedes, and scares the 
    old ladies"). A Tradewinds comp cd would be a very cool 
    jack "a new stereophonic sound spectacular" madani
    n.p. Cast Your Fate To The Wind, the Sounds Orchestral 
    version, on This was the version of that 
    song that I remember always hearing at the dentist's 
    office when I was a kid, instead of the Vince Guaraldi 
    whoah!!!! NOW n.p. Good Timin' by the Beach Boys on! 
    Jack Madani - Princeton Day School, The Great Road,
       Princeton, NJ  08540
    "You knew the job was dangerous when you took it, Fred." 
     --Henry Cabot Henhouse III
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    Subject:     J Webb
    Received:    05/16/99 10:18 pm
    >From:        A Cross-eyed Puppet Named Igor,
    To:          Spectropop List,
    With all this talk about the 5th Dimension.....what are 
    your opinions about Jimmy Webb's "Ten Easy Pieces" which 
    came out a couple of years ago? I think it's a damn good 
    record, although it disappointed me that he left out Up Up
    And Away! I mean, that's really His Song. It's interesting 
    to listen to the original version and then these stripped 
    down takes. It's almost like listening to what McArthur 
    Park or Wichita Lineman must've sounded like when Webb had
    just written them, sitting in front of his piano thinking 
    "yeah!" :)
    Did you know, btw, that Jimmy Webb has his own webpage? 
    Not only his official homepage, but he runs it himself! I 
    can't remember the URL right now but I'll post it if 
    anyone hasn't visited his site. 
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    Subject:     Anders & Poncia - From Girl Group to Soft Rock
    Received:    05/16/99 10:18 pm
    >From:        Jamie LePage,
    To:          Spectropop List,
    Tobias wrote:
    >...The Innocence self-titled record. Not an abrasive 
    >musical element in sight, just pure bliss....vocal harmony, 
    >acoustic guitars, vibraphone, major 7th chords, the 
    >occasional string arrangement
    >The Innocence apparently used to be called The 
    >Tradewinds and my friend included two of the 'Winds' songs. 
    >One of the tracks, the brilliant New York's A Lonely 
    >Town, sounds like a lost Beach Boys surf song (it's from 
    >the Cowabunga surf box, is the rest of that compilation as
    You've discovered one of my personal favorite writer/ 
    producer/artist teams, Toby. Anders & Poncia started out 
    as Brill Building writers, penning for girl groups like 
    the Ronettes. I believe Hill & Range publisher Paul Case 
    signed them and introduced them to Spector after hearing 
    their group the Videls. Together, the four of them penned 
    "Ringo, I Love You" for Bonnie Jo Mason. The record 
    stiffed but Bonnie Jo found fame soon enough as 1/2 of 
    Sonny & Cher. (I wonder why this record date wasn't touched
    on in the recent Sonny & Cher TV movie? Not that the record 
    was all that important, it's just that the script made it 
    seem as though Spector never recorded Cher.)
    After their very productive stint with Phil (check out 
    "Stumble & Fall" by Darlene Love!), A&P signed on with 
    Leiber & Stoller's Red Bird label and released three 
    singles as the Tradewinds. All great sides, but only "New 
    York's a Lonely Town" was a chart success. The B-side, 
    "Club Seventeen" is clever, and the second single, "Girl 
    >From Greenwich Village" is almost as good as "New York's a
    Lonely Town". Their third single, however, "Summertime 
    Girl", was different. It starts in what might be judged as 
    a Surfer Girl/West Coast ballad type groove, but as soon as 
    it hits the latter part of the first verse, it turns into 
    pure East Coast pop with major 7 chords and a Charles 
    Calello-like vocal arrangement. It was a sign of things to
    come. (You might know Summertime Girl from the cover version 
    by Salt Water Taffy, a single on Metromedia produced by Rob 
    McBrian. Rob apparently was the engineer on the Tradewinds 
    sessions and suggested the song to Salt Water Taffy).
    Anders & Poncia moved to Artie Ripp's label Kama Sutra, and 
    somehow they were able to include the New York's a Lonely 
    Town master on the Kama Sutra Tradewinds album. As much as
    I adore that record, it was out of place on the Tradewinds 
    "Mind Excursion" album. Music was changing so rapidly at 
    the time that the surf sound was decidely dated by the 
    time the psychedlic "Mind Excursion" hit the airwaves. 
    I recommend all three Red Bird singles by the Tradewinds, 
    and both the Tradewinds and Innocence Kama Sutra albums. 
    There is another release too, called "Anders & Poncia 
    Rarities", and it is essential. It has the Anders & Poncia
    single "So It Goes", "Sunrise Highway" single by Peter 
    Anders, a great version of "Down When It's Up-Up When It's
    Down" by Lou Christie, and, arguably the best Innocence 
    track ever, "The Day Turns Me On".
    >From Brill Building Girl Group to psyche-soft pop, Anders 
    and Poncia, in a very short span, recorded a suprising 
    number of top notch pop records.
    Sooper highly recommended!
    All the best,
    N.P. (I Just Go) Wild Inside (Spector/Poncia/Andreoli) - The Barons
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    Subject:     Old Tune, New Words
    Received:    05/16/99 10:18 pm
    >From:        WILLIAM STOS,
    To:          Spectropop List,
    I recently listened to the Caravelles "You Are Here," and 
    finally put my finger on where I had heard that song 
    before, Robin Ward's "Winter's Here."
    Not being alive back in the 50s, 60s, and 70s, I was 
    wondering how common it was to use a tune and write new 
    lyrics to it. Darlene Love recorded "Christmas Baby Please
    Come Home," and "Johnny Baby Please Come Home," and the 
    Saphires did it with "Slow Fizz," and "Baby You've Got Me." 
    What other examples are out there? 
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    Subject:     Stereo/mono/phasing
    Received:    05/16/99 10:18 pm
    >From:        Doc Rock,
    To:          Spectropop List,
    Want to have some fun and hear your old records a new way 
    while learning about things being out of phase?
    Everyone has played with their stereo records (and CDs) by
    turing the balance control all the way to the left or the 
    right and listening to the details of each channel. It's 
    fun to eliminate one side completely and play mixing 
    engineer. (That's why Spector hated stereo -- the ability 
    it gave the fan to mess with his wall.)
    Many of you have also flipped the stereo-mono switch on 
    the amp to mono while playing a stereo record and heard 
    the center material move up slightly in the mix. Also fun.
    Well, here is a variation on all this. Get a spare phono 
    plug wire. That's the wire used to connect your turntable 
    or CD player to your amp. Cut it in two. Use a knife to 
    remove the insulation at the two cut ends and bare the 
    wires. There will be two wires inside the one, probably 
    one in the center and the other around that one. Now, 
    twist the bare wires back together. But instead of 
    reattaching the center to the center and the outer to the 
    outer, switch them. Attach the center wire from one half 
    to the outer wire of the other half, and vice versa. This 
    is called splicing.
    Now unhook one channel of your turntable, CD player, or 
    tape deck from your amp. Use the newly spliced wire to 
    reconnect that one channel. Now you have two channels, 
    left and right, that are out of phase! (Just like the 
    Mamas and Papas stuff we've been discussing.)
    Last, play a stereo record or CD or tape. Anything will do, 
    but it is best of the lead vocal is in the center of the
    stereo mix. First, listen with the stereo mono switch in 
    the stereo position. Sounds normal, eh?
    Now flip the stereo mono switch to mono. Voila! The lead 
    vocal (or whatever was in the center) disappears!
    'Cause it was out of phase!
    (If your amp does not have a stereo-mono switch, you can 
    use a y-connector to get mono.)
    Don't worry. This won't damage your equipment -- or your 
    ears! But you can have fun singing along with the 
    vocal-less tracks! (There may also be a 60-cycle hum, but 
    that's OK, too.) 
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    Subject:     Sweetening on Mamas And Papas
    Received:    05/16/99 10:18 pm
    >From:        Paul Urbahns, Pauluxxxcom
    To:          Spectropop List,
    In a message dated 5/14/99 3:10:14 PM Eastern Daylight Time, writes:
    > The good 
    > news is that the original mono 45 version (with the horns 
    > and extra verse at the end) is now on CD from Varese 
    > Sarabande's "On The Radio Volume 3". I wonder why they 
    > left the horns off when they mixed it in stereo for the 
    > "Deliver" album. Wierd.
    I always thought the album came out first and they 
    sweetened the track for single release because It would 
    not have done anything if issued as the album track.
    It was a common practice in the 60s.
    Paul Urbahns
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