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Spectropop V#0263

  • From: The Spectropop Group
  • Date: 05/15/99

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       Volume #0263                                    May 15, 1999   
    designed to give you many years of trouble-free listening pleasure
    Subject:     Twiggy
    Received:    05/15/99 3:16 am
    >From:        Marie J.
    To:          Spectropop List,
    Dear Spectropop, 
    I don't write often but enjoy reading this list. And maybe
    someone can help me. I've just finished reading Twiggy's 
    autobiography, and I can only recommend it warmly to 
    anyone interested in the sixties and the London scene. She
    mentions albums she made, and from what is said, they should 
    be good. I have no idea how she sounds, so if someone can 
    tell me what to expect, before I go browse old vinyls, I 
    would be very happy. As for the book, it also contains an 
    interesting if peculiar meeting with Phil Spector, as well
    as a visit to the now familiar Caribou studio.
    Thanks for reading,  
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    Subject:     happy birthday burt?
    Received:    05/15/99 3:16 am
    >From:        Jack Madani,
    To:          Spectropop List,
    I'm sure I heard on the radio this morning as I was 
    shaving that Burt Bacharach is 70 years old today. Could 
    this be true? I would have forgotten all about it if I 
    hadn't been listening to my TimeLife AM Gold 1969 cd as I 
    graded lab reports, and all of a sudden up pops Raindrops 
    Keep Fallin' On My Head. 
    70 years old?  No way!
    Jack Madani - Princeton Day School, The Great Road,
       Princeton, NJ  08540
    "You knew the job was dangerous when you took it, Fred." 
     --Henry Cabot Henhouse III
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    Subject:     Mamas and Papas Missing Vocals
    Received:    05/15/99 3:16 am
    >From:        Billy G. Spradlin,
    To:          Spectropop List,
    Doc Rock, wrote to Spectropop List:
    >I don't recall which hit it was, but when I was DJ-ing in 
    >Toledo, Ohio, there was one track on my CD of their hits 
    >that always came out over the air with missing vocals (but
    >it played fine at home). The station engineer said that the
    >label had mastered the track of the CD out of phase on that
    >song. And thus it was not compatible with the station's 
    >It was a mono AM station. I assume that the board was 
    >wired out of phase, and he did not want to admit it. 
    >Taking an out-of-phase stereo mix and making it mono will 
    >eliminate everything in the middle of the mix. Anyway, I 
    >feel that is the source of the problem we've been taking 
    >and reading about. 
    Doc, I think you're referring to "Creeque Alley" on the 
    MCA "16 Greatest Hits" CD which I think its now out of 
    print, since MCA has released other M&P's greatest hits 
    CD's in the 90's. I noticed that the vocals were out of 
    phase when listening to the song on headphones. The good 
    news is that the original mono 45 version (with the horns 
    and extra verse at the end) is now on CD from Varese 
    Sarabande's "On The Radio Volume 3". I wonder why they 
    left the horns off when they mixed it in stereo for the "
    Deliver" album. Wierd.
    One thing I have noticed about all the M&P's albums (and 
    one of the best things about them) is that the vocals are 
    mixed in very wide stereo. While this makes it great for 
    stereo lovers, when you combine the left and right 
    channels into mono for AM radio they tend to get buried by
    whatever in the center channel. I like to listen to KOMA 
    (1520 AM) from Oklahoma City which broadcasts in AM stereo 
    and I have noticed this problem whenever they play a M&P's
    hit or The Association (Windy) and im listening on a mono 
    I wished MCA would go back and remaster the "The Mamas & 
    The Papas" (thier second album) and "Deliver" albums since
    they did a great job last year of remastering the first 
    album. It was a huge improvement. The CD version of "
    Deliver" is one of the worst sounding CD's I have in my 
    collection, it sounds like it was mastered off a cheap 
    Billy G. Spradlin
    29 Rim Road
    Kilgore, Texas 75662
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    Subject:     Out Of Phase stereo
    Received:    05/15/99 3:16 am
    >From:        Paul Urbahns, Pauluxxxcom
    To:          Spectropop List,
    Doc wrote:
    > I don't recall which hit it was, but when I was DJ-ing in 
    > Toledo, Ohio, there was one track on my CD of their hits 
    > that always came out over the air with missing vocals (but
    > it played fine at home). The station engineer said that the
    > label had mastered the track of the CD out of phase on that
    > song. And thus it was not compatible with the station's 
    > equipment. 
    >From what I understand from my DJ days that's right. When 
    an FM stereo station transmitter gets ready to broadcast a
    stereo song, it combines the L+R single and the postives 
    (everything alike in the two channels) is broadcast as the 
    main carrier in mono. This is what the mono radio pick up
    and ignore the stereo sub carrier. A stereo receiver picks 
    up both the main carrier (the mono positives) and the sub 
    carrier (which as all the things different between the two
    channels or a mono negative signal). The fact it receives 
    this signal is indicated by the stereo light because this 
    signal lights that. Then both signals are fed together and
    the tuning circuits seperate them back to Left and Right 
    respectively. If the song is out of phase it screws up the
    process. Hope that's not too technical a definition. An AM
    mono station combines L+R into one signal and does not 
    uncode them back. So, out of phase hurts it too.
    Paul Urbahns
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    Subject:     Taking the Fifth
    Received:    05/15/99 3:16 am
    >From:        Jamie LePage,
    To:          Spectropop List,
    A few thoughts on Jimmy Webb and the Fifth Dimension:
    I have a CD (of rather questionable origin) called the 
    Jimmy Webb Songbook (Real Music RMD-1004). It apparently 
    is mastered from vinyl, but the sound is good enough for 
    me and the track listing is wonderful. The concept, as I 
    understand it, was to compile all the Jimmy Webb songs 
    >from Up Up & Away, Magic Garden, Johnny Rivers' Changes 
    (you'd like this too Toby), and the Glen Campbell track By 
    the Time I get to Phoenix. Here is the track listing: 
    Prologue (5D)
    The Magic Garden (5D)
    Summer's Daughter (5D)
    Dreams/Pax/Nepenthe (5D)
    Carpet Man (5D)
    Requiem: 820 Latham (5D)
    The Girls' Song (5D)
    The Worst That Could Happen (5D)
    Orange Air (5D)
    Paper Cup (5D)
    Epilogue (5D)
    By the Time I get to Phoenix (Johnny Rivers)
    Carpet Man (Johny Rivers)
    Tunesmith (Johnny Rivers)
    Sidewalk Song/27th Street (Johnny Rivers)
    Do What You Gotta Do (Johnny Rivers)
    Rosecrans Boulevard (Johnny Rivers)
    The Eleventh Song (Johnny Rivers)
    Sweet Smiling Children (Johnny Rivers)
    By the Time I get to Phoenix (Glen Campbell)
    Up, Up and Away (5D)
    Which Way to Nowhere (5D)
    Never Gonna Be the Same (5D)
    Pattern People (5D)
    Rosecrans Blvd. (5D)
    With Jimmy Webb having been mentioned here quite a bit 
    recently, I relistened to the Thelma Houston album 
    "Sunshower"; written, arranged and produced by Jimmy Webb 
    in 1969, released on the Probe label. There are some 
    interesting tracks on this album; I particularly like Make
    it Easier on You and Mixed-Up Girl. Thelma covers Didn't We
    here, but the vocal histrionics are a bit much for my own 
    personal taste. It almost starts to sound like a Whitney 
    ballad! (Do I have that backwards?) Anyway, its saving 
    grace is the outro, where the song changes tempo and fades
    with an acoustic guitar line backed by a distant string 
    Dave Feldman wrote:
    > Jimmy Webb needs singers who will give in to the emotion 
    > and melodrama of his ballads. Billy Davis and Marilyn 
    > McCoo, like Art Garfunkel, manage to convey passion and 
    > intelligence simultaneously. 
    Thelma's soulful interpretation of the Stones' Jumpin' 
    Jack Flash (with a very cool Webb string arrangement) 
    works well enough, but again, occasionally she seems to 
    overpower Webb-penned material, and after reading Dave's 
    comment, I began to wonder if perhaps this is due to 
    Thelma's failure to "give in to the emotion and melodrama"
    of Webb's songs, opting instead to create her own emotion 
    and melodrama with her spirited singing style.
    Dave again:
    > ...the Fifth Dimension were never hip, and were 
    > woefully underappreciated, IMO. They were superb vocalists, 
    > in the studio and live.
    Couldn't agree more, and thanks for saying it. 5D's vocal 
    approach was always understated, and this allowed the 
    melodies and arrangements to cut through (an approach 
    effectively employed by Brian Wilson, btw). UU&A and Magic
    Garden are both wonderful albums and showcase Webb's work 
    perhaps better than any other recordings of his late 60's 
    and...Rosecrans Boulevard rules!
    All the best,
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    Subject:     The Innocence and more goodies
    Received:    05/15/99 3:16 am
    >From:        A Cross-eyed Puppet Named Igor,
    To:          Spectropop List,
    A record which is almost too soft to qualify as soft rock 
    is The Innocence self-titled record. A friend of mine over
    here found the LP (it's quite rare, huh) and taped it for 
    me...and I have to say it's great!! Not an abrasive 
    musical element in sight, just pure bliss....vocal harmony, 
    acoustic guitars, vibraphone, major 7th chords, the 
    occasional string arrangement...I kind of overdosed on 
    Roger Nichols and all his string overdubs, so it was 
    really great to hear such great soft rock stripped down to, 
    uh...whatever, I'm too tired to be poetic right now :) 
    Anyway, this LP is a true gem and no Spectropop-listee 
    should be without it! I'm intrigued by the second song, 
    Mairzy Doats, because it's the one that Leland Palmer sang
    over and over again when he got mad in "Twin Peaks"! Is 
    there an Innocence/David Lynch connection that I should 
    know about?
    Anyway, The Innocence apparently used to be called The 
    Tradewinds and my friend included two of the 'Winds' songs. 
    One of the tracks, the brilliant New York's A Lonely 
    Town, sounds like a lost Beach Boys surf song (it's from 
    the Cowabunga surf box, is the rest of that compilation as
    good?)! Other highlights on the tape: an obscure Dionne 
    Warwick bossa nova called "Another Night" (written by 
    Bacharach/David, of course!) and Pizzicato Five's cover of
    the Beach Boys' "Passing By". 
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