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  • Date: 04/14/99

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       Volume #0256                          April 14, 1999   
                     LONG PLAYING UNBREAKABLE                 
    Subject:     Re: Hot, Cold & Custard
    Sent:        04/14/19 12:05 pm
    Received:    04/14/99 3:17 am
    From:        Andrew Sandoval, APSXXXXXXXXom
    To:          Spectropop List,
    Dave wrote:
    > Andrew, I just got a copy of Hot, Cold & Custard last week. 
    > It is really good (and scarce). Any chance Rhino could 
    > be coaxed into issuing it on CD? Apparently, Collectables 
    > has no intention of doing so...
    > Dave
     Sean wrote:
    > Yes! I too feel it might be their very best collective 
    > long-player. The single from the LP, "You've Had Better 
    > Times", went nowhere (Capitol didn't even bother with a 
    > picture sleeve for it)....but it is a great tune. At the 
    > time it was rumored that Mr. McCartney had a hand in the 
    > production and/or instruments on the single. 
    > Curious...wouldn't have been the first time Macca worked 
    > with'em, you know?! And Peter was very tight in the Beatle
    > camp at the time ('68, I think..) as he was the first A&R 
    > guy for Apple. "Discovered" James Taylor, etc. A buddy of 
    > mine even received a reject "thanks, but no thanks" letter
    > from Peter on Apple Stationery. Very Cool! Anyway, it's 
    > nice to know that that LP turned somebody else on as much 
    > as me! Is there any hope of it ever seeing the light of 
    > day as a CD release....other than on Collectibles (ugh!)??? 
    > And why didn't EMI release it across the pond?? Anybody?
    Not a likely reissue from Rhino due entirely to sales 
    projections (as are so many things these days). If I win 
    the lottery - let the spectropop list members be my 
    witnesses - I will not only license it from Capitol and 
    issue it on my own label, but I will also use the rest of 
    my earnings to put out an Easybeats box set.
    As for Mr. McCartney's involvement, he does not appear on 
    the album. Brian Jones plays the drums on You've Had 
    Better Times (recorded on a drunken afternoon, when Peter,
    Gordon & Brian rang up Abbey Road to see if any studio time
    was available). Jones also plays the Harmonica on an 
    earlier single of their's "Love Me Baby." McCartney does 
    however play drums on an Asher produced single from '68 by
    Paul Jones. Gordon Waller has also told me that the 
    extensive use of backwards effects (I Feel Like Going Out 
    & Uncle Hartington) was because of Asher and McCartney's 
    experimentation with the form at the Asher family home 
    (where Paul once lived). Waller credits a lot of the 
    Beatles backwards effects with the loops and such that 
    Peter Asher helped Paul create - take that for what you 
    You've Had Better Times was almost a hit, but was banned 
    due to sexual nature of the lyrics. The album was not 
    issued in the UK because Peter & Gordon's chart fortunes 
    were on the decline at home (they had not issued an album 
    in the the UK since 1966), while in the States there was 
    still sufficient interest to merit a release.
    - andrew sandoval
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    Subject:     Re: Harpers Bizarre
    Sent:        04/09/19 10:53 pm
    Received:    04/14/99 3:17 am
    From:        Stewart Mason, flamiXXXXXXXXcom
    To:          Spectropop List,
    Tobias' mention of Harpers Bizarre reminds me that I 
    recently bought their THE SECRET LIFE OF HARPERS BIZARRE 
    on vinyl and lord, my world is officially rocked. This is 
    easily one of the, well, bizarre...soft pop 
    albums I have heard, in a class with SONG CYCLE (I knew 
    vaguely that Van Dyke was somehow involved, but I had no 
    idea that they did a version of Randy's "Vine Street," one
    of my all-time favorite VDP songs -- to what extent was he 
    associated with this band?) and, more recently, Richard 
    Davies' work with the Moles. Having only previously known 
    them through their okay cover of "The 59th Street Bridge 
    Song," I have the usual questions: history, CD 
    availability, what happened to everyone besides Ted 
    Templeman, and most importantly if the rest of their 
    oeuvre is as delightfully odd as "Me Japanese Boy" and the
    little interludes sprinkled through this album.
    ****************************FLAMINGO RECORDS****************************
    Stewart Allensworth Mason        
    Box 40172                         "Hydrangea not good but passion
    Albuquerque NM 87196               flower leafy!"           
    **********************HAPPY MUSIC FOR NICE PEOPLE***********************
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    Subject:     Danny Davis....
    Sent:        04/08/19 8:43 pm
    Received:    04/14/99 3:17 am
    From:        Carol Kaye,
    To:          Spectropop List,
    >Carol, you must remember Danny Davis. Any interesting 
    Vaguely...I remember him, but there were many many people 
    constantly in the booth. Phil Spector was only one of my 
    accounts....I was always rushing off to the next date, so 
    really didn't talk to a lot of people hanging around Phil.
    I'd probably know him well if I saw's hard to 
    remember 100s of names outside of the musicians, but 
    that's about the number outside of the musicians that you 
    ran into every day in the studios, sorry Jamie, don't 
    recall that much. 
    >The Fifth Dimension - Living Together Growing Together. 
    >Most of the songs are great, backed up by the entire 
    >Wrecking Crew (no Carol Kaye in sight, though) and seems 
    >to be more in a Philadelphia-soul kind of way
    No, of course not, I only played about 3-4 songs of theirs, 
    that's Joe Osborn on the bulk of the 5th Dimension.
    FYI "Tobias", the term "wrecking crew" was TOTALLY 
    unheard-of before Hal Blaine's book came out about 1990 
    (which I helped him connect with some friends of mine who 
    ran MIX Magazine and they're the ones who published his 
    book) and is sort of passe. 
    That's Hal's pet phrase describing the 50-60 of us (out of
    the 350 or so successful working studio musicians in LA 
    doing it all) who did the Phil Spector dates and other 
    dates, borrowed from the name of the backup group behind 
    Darlene Love in NYC in the 80s.
    None of us were EVER called that back in the 60s, never 
    heard of that term at all and some sure hate that term....
    but I don't blame Hal for wanting to promote his book...
    it's not selling every well unfortunately. We were called 
    the "clique" if anything (were free-lance studio musicians) 
    and Hal Blaine is only one of the well-known drummers in
    the studios. 
    Earl Palmer (who also hates that term as it sort of 
    implies we were all "Hal's gang" NOT TRUE) did as many 
    record dates as Hal Blaine----his bio book is now out (on too) "BACKBEAT" the Earl Palmer Story.
    Earl was certainly on a LOT of the Phil Spector hits, inc.
    "You've Lost That Lovin' Feelin'", and brought the swamp 
    beat from New Orleans to LA late 50s which eventually 
    turned into the "Funk" you hear today (he used the word 
    "funk" back in 1949 when he was recording in New Orleans 
    studios as it meant stinky shoes, he's the 1st one to use 
    it in a phrase connected w/music). 
    You hear Earl on the early James Brown and Fats Domino 
    recordings before he ever saw LA (I'm on a movie playing 
    with Earl for James Brown too in the 60s, in my Log).
    Credits for the studio musicians were not required to be 
    on the backs of record albums until 1973 by the Musicians 
    Union. However, this will soon be rectified as the book by
    Russ Wapensky is almost done and will be out later this 
    His research was gleaned from all the legal (and most 
    accurate) Musicians Union studio musician contracts (from 
    where our pensions and re-use monies are derived), credits
    So all the guessing by everyone, either from "magazine 
    articles" (the most unreliable, we saw them lie through 
    their teeth in the 60s -- you can imagine how bad they are
    now), or studio logs (again, very unreliable), this will be
    the bible of credits for us.
    BTW, my new album, "Thumbs Up" with the legendary jazz sax
    man Ray Pizzi and fine studio guitarist Mitch Holder (
    myself on elec. bass) is now out, and flying out the door. only in tape form right now but the soundbytes of our
    recorded live jazz concerts will be on my website in the 
    next week or so. We have such busy schedules it's hard to 
    get us out playing, but we happen to have a nice gig at 
    Papashons - Encino, Tues. Apr. 20th. 
    This is real jazz, not fusion nor elevator stuff.....I 
    played some real jazz with all the heavies in LA in the 
    50s (was asked by George Shearing to join his group - was 
    a guitarist then, but was too far escounced in the studio 
    work and didn't want to leave my kids for road work -- the
    money in the studios was 4-5 times as much as any traveling
    thing too) -- so think if you're a real jazz fan, you'll 
    love this tape. Joel Leach, music head at Cal-State 
    Northridge just loves it, others too.
    And my 27th tutorial book is almost done "Jazz Improv"....
    I look forward to the prized bass students from colleges 
    and universities all over the USA coming to be in my 
    master class at the prestigeous Henry Mancini Institute at
    UCLA this summer....from the audition tapes there are many 
    fine talents I'm honored to teach. 
    Carol Kaye
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    Subject:     Good stores in Vegas
    Sent:        04/11/19 3:33 am
    Received:    04/14/99 3:17 am
    From:        Ron Weekes,
    To:          Spectropop List,
    Hey all! I'm heading down to Las Vegas this Thursday. I'll
    be there for a week attending two broadcast related 
    conventions. Any good collector record stores I should 
    hit while I'm there?
    Landlocked in Idaho!
    Ron Weekes
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    Subject:     Laura Nyro
    Sent:        04/15/19 5:33 pm
    Received:    04/14/99 3:17 am
    From:        Paul MacArthur, Rtf_XXXXXXXXedu
    To:          Spectropop List,
    >Laura Nyro - Stoned Soul Picnic, The Best Of...A two-CD
    >album, but I have only heard the first one yet. Great
    >stuff so far! I can't believe her own recordings never
    >charted when other artists turned the same songs into huge
    I LOVE Laura Nyro, but the reason her stuff never made it is 
    probably because her voice is a bit thin.
    - Paul
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    Subject:     Lost friends and relatives from LA
    Sent:        04/07/19 3:43 pm
    Received:    04/14/99 3:17 am
    From:        haoleboy,
    To:          Spectropop List,
    Hello everyone,
    This is Dan Shubin, formerly of South Gate, CA, currently 
    of Hilo, HI, by way of Portland, OR. Callname: kana (my 
    Hawai'ian name).
    I'm wondering if any old buddies are lurking on the list--
    Mike Baird, Jim Giordano, Kent Henry, Mike Fennely, Fred 
    Rivera, Kathy Sisoyev, Craig Moerer, Eric Engleke, Arni 
    and the Portland contingent, anyone that used to jam with 
    us at Fred's old house in East LA, anyone from South Gate,
    UCLA's band greeters, the Fairport ConCrew--early seventies. 
    Moeller? Millennium. American Genesis. Elijah.
    Hale Milgrim and any of the WB pre-MTV guys that worked 
    with me and Carin, Kent Crawford, any City One Stop folk--
    Pat, Saul.... Ed Richardson, the CBS guys that worked with
    Ronnie (Spider) memory's coming back to me, thank you 
    Gotta go beach--
    Dan Shubin
    Eddie Would Go! 
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    Subject:     Them Poems and Other Things
    Sent:        04/14/19 11:43 pm
    Received:    04/14/99 3:17 am
    From:        Tom Bryan,
    To:          Spectropop List,
    Looking for Jim Connor, "Them Poems and Other Things" on 
    VeeJay label. Any idea where to find that?
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    Subject:     Meet Ginny Arnell
    Sent:        04/17/19 1:45 am
    Received:    04/14/99 3:17 am
    From:        Doc Rock, docroXXXXXXXXcom
    To:          Spectropop List,
    >Speaking of Phi-Dan and Mr. Danny Davis, I just picked up 
    >the Meet Ginny Arnell album (Marginal MAR 088)
    I've had the original Ginny Arnell LP sine '63, in mono.  Is 
    the Marginal CD stereo?  Are there more than the original 12 
    cuts?  Are there more than the original 2 photos?
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    Subject:     the girls' scene
    Sent:        04/10/19 12:43 am
    Received:    04/14/99 3:17 am
    From:        Jack Madani,
    To:          Spectropop List,
    oo wee, this is a splendid compilation. Big sounds, groovy
    liner notes, and Lulu in go-go boots. Holy cow, Janice 
    Nicholls totally slays me with "I'll Give It Five." I 
    swear, I'm going to have to start using that phrase.
    Barry St. John's "Hey Boy" is pretty good (a cover of the 
    Freddie Scott "Hey Girl"), with a shimmering harpsichord 
    hook that runs throughout. What an indestructable song 
    that is; has anybody heard a bad version of it?
    Pamela Blue is immediately identified as a Joe Meek girl. 
    His production style is instantly recognizable--that 
    unbelievably flat 2-dimensional plane of sound. I'd like 
    to hear more from those in the know on Joe Meek and his 
    production technique. Was he using a casette-based 
    fourtrack or something? In some vague way, his records 
    almost sound like they were made in his bedroom, yet they 
    still cook. Amazing.
    This album merits repeated listening, but at this early 
    juncture I'd have to name as personal faves Truly Smith's 
    "The Boy From Chelsea", Barry St. John's "Hey Boy", and 
    Billie Davis' "Nobody's Home To Go Home To."
    Nice collection of music. But perhaps the best thing about
    it, as with the UK-oriented entries in the Here Come The 
    Girls series, is the NAMES!!!! Truly, Barry, Beryl, oh 
    baby! Not only did Great Britain save the western world in
    1940-1941; they also came up with the most smashing girls' 
    names. Dewd.
    I'll give it five. 
    Jack Madani - Princeton Day School, The Great Road,
       Princeton, NJ  08540
    "You knew the job was dangerous when you took it, Fred." 
     --Henry Cabot Henhouse III
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