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  • From: The Spectropop Group
  • Date: 03/11/99

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       Volume #0241                          March 11, 1999   
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    Explanatory notes for the interested and informed Listener
    
    
    
    
    
    Subject:     Re: 45s Big and Small
    Received:    03/11/99 2:37 am
    From:        Big L, biXXXXXXXXtmail.com
    To:          Spectropop List, spectroXXXXXXXXties.com
    
    
    The 45 rpm single was made for one purpose: jukeboxes. Old
    78 jukeboxes (small hole) had a problem sometimes with 
    getting the record centered, especially after the 
    mechanism got some wear on it. Result: record falls off 
    the platter, tone arm comes down on felt - loud racket, 
    possible broken record and damaged needle.
    
    With the large hole, the center post could be conical at 
    the top, and the record would automatically fall into 
    place even if miscued.
    
    In the 60s, a few labels made 45s with snap out centers to
    accomodate people who did not have a 45 adapter for their 
    turntable, or didn't feel like putting it on.
    
    ==
    Big L                   
    
    
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    Subject:     45 Holes
    Received:    03/11/99 2:37 am
    From:        Paul Urbahns, PaulurbXXXXXXXXom
    To:          Spectropop List, spectroXXXXXXXXties.com
    
    Stewart wrote:
    
    > For example, I have two otherwise identical copies 
    > of the Mala single of the Box Tops' "The Letter"/"Happy 
    > Times" from 1967, one with a big hole and one with a small
    > hole. My assumption has always been that for whatever 
    > reason, some 45s escaped the factory without getting their
    > holes punched. Am I wrong? 
    
    That's probably it. Some children's labels from the 60's 
    period and a few Capital singles from the late 50's have a
    triangle type thing built into the big hole so you can 
    punch out the whole if you want for the large spindle or 
    leave it in and play the single on a standard phonograph 
    without the 45 adapter.
    
    As I understand it, and unpunched 45 has a small whole and
    looks like a 7 inch album.
    
    Paul Urbahns
    paulurbXXXXXXXXom
    
    
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    Subject:     Smile, My Dad, movie soundtracks
    Received:    03/11/99 2:37 am
    From:        Stewart Mason, flamiXXXXXXXXcom
    To:          Spectropop List, spectroXXXXXXXXties.com
    
    John Love asks:
    
    >There are continuous references being made to "Smile" as 
    >if it actually exists as an album. I know that some songs 
    >from the sessions eventually found their way onto albums 
    >after "Smiley Smile", but I had thought that Brian's 
    >original vision was never completed. Is there a bootleg of
    >the sessions floating around?
    
    There are actually many, many bootlegs, though no, the 
    sessions were never officially completed (and there's 
    heated debate about just how close to completion the album
    ever actually came). Speaking of SMILE bootlegs, I'm on the
    verge of finally acquiring one. The 2-CD Vigotone set seems
    to be the consensus favorite, but if anything feels 
    strongly for or against any of the other favorites, I'm 
    willing to be persuaded.
    
    Big L wrote:
    
    >I got this by private e-mail. If you can help this gentleman, 
    >please reply to him personally, not to me. Thanks.
    >
    >>>>>I am looking for any CD that has the song "My Dad" by
    >>>>>Paul Peterson.  I have been looking everywhere. Thank you.
    
    I did write to Mr. Sweeney, but if anyone else has a yen 
    for this song, TV STARS SING (K-Tel 3388, released in 1995) 
    has not only "My Dad" but singles by Ricky Nelson, 
    Shelley Fabares, Johnny Crawford, Edd Byrnes and Connie 
    Stevens, Connie Stevens solo, Richard Chamberlain, George 
    Maharis and Dwayne Hickman. Playing time is very skimpy, 
    but (surprisingly for those of us who remember K-Tel's 70s
    heyday) the CD has attractive packaging, well-written liner
    notes, some good pictures and more-than-decent sound.
    
    Jack Madani wrote:
    >This leads me to something else that I dig about the era 
    >that we celebrate here, which is that even *incidental 
    >movie music* from those days just rocks with the echo of 
    >the studio, and electric basses playing melodies, and big 
    >drum kits with those fluent 32nd runs up and down the toms. 
    >The Beach movies all have it, of course, but so do a ton
    >of other movies from that time period.
    
    Yes! Besides the beach movies and all those great AIP 
    biker flicks with Davie Allan and the Arrows soundtracks 
    available on Tower Records, anyone here who has never 
    heard the soundtracks of Ennio Morricone, Krzysztof Komeda
    and Nino Rota may well be very interested in them. (Jack, 
    you later express a fondness for BIG-sounding adult pop 
    records -- you in particular will fall in love, if you 
    haven't already.)
    
    Morricone is the best known of the three -- most of you 
    have heard his theme for THE GOOD, THE BAD AND THE UGLY, 
    with its Duane Eddyesque twang guitar, prominent bass, 
    wordless female choir and mysterious grunting, and that 
    typifies the style of music he wrote for that and the 
    other "spaghetti westerns." His other 60s soundtrack work 
    is closer to what Rota did for Fellini films and Komeda 
    did for Polanski films, among others: very prominent 
    electric organ (usually sounds like a Vox Continental or 
    Farfisa to me), prominent wordless female choirs, swooping
    strings and rhythm sections heavily influenced by both jazz
    and rock that make you want to use the phrase "a-go-go" in 
    every sentence. It's not technically pop, but it's 
    quintessentially 60s, and Bacharach fans in particular 
    might be interested.
    
    Domestic and import CDs are available at stores which 
    specialize in soundtracks: I recommend starting with any 
    of Morricone's Westerns, Rota's GIULETTA DEGLI SPIRITI and
    Komeda's THE FEARLESS VAMPIRE KILLERS. (Fans of current pop
    groups might recognize that the Swedish band Komeda took 
    more than their name from the composer, and the enormous 
    debt the High Llamas owe to Morricone and Rota.)
    
    Stewart
    
    
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    Subject:     "My Dad"
    Received:    03/11/99 2:37 am
    From:        Jimmy Cresitelli, JimmyXXXXXXXXom
    To:          Spectropop List, spectroXXXXXXXXties.com
    
    This fab tearjerker can be found on Nick at Nite Records 
    CD BK67148, "Donna Reed's Dinner Party," a fun and unusual
    "concept compilation" from 1995. www.sony.com/Music/
    NickAtNite
    
    Also appears on Rhino Records CD R2 71650, "The 
    Colpix-Dimension Story." It's an absolutely stupendous 
    collection. (What I like to do is set the CD player for 
    The Cookies' bluesy and sexy "Will Power" and the 
    Girlfriends' surging, storming, thunderous "Jimmy Boy," 
    The Cookies' "Girls Grow Up Faster Than Boys," The 
    Cinderellas "Baby, Baby," and Lou Christie's "Guitars and 
    Bongos," and ROCK !!! And that's just Side B...
    
    
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    Subject:     Donna Reed's Dinner Party
    Received:    03/11/99 2:37 am
    From:        WASE RADIO, wXXXXXXXX.org
    To:          Spectropop List, spectroXXXXXXXXties.com
    
    This is to Pat Sweeney: 
    
    I have "My Dad" on a various artists' CD called "Donna 
    Reed's Dinner Party" on 550 Music/Epic. The song is in 
    clean true stereo. This disk also contains "The Men in My 
    Little Girl's Life" by Mike Douglas, "Johnny Angel" by 
    Shelley Fabares, "Our Winter Love" by Bill Purcell , all 
    in stereo. It also contains a two track stereo mix of "
    Chances Are" by Johnny Mathis. I hope this disc is still 
    available.
    
    Good Luck
    
    Michael Marvin
    Kool 103.5 WASE
    Radcliff, Ky.
    
    
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    Subject:     Happenings/Tokens
    Received:    03/11/99 2:37 am
    From:        David Feldman, feldXXXXXXXXderables.com
    To:          Spectropop List, spectroXXXXXXXXties.com
    
    Jack Madani speculated:
    
    > I've got a vinyl lp somewhere in my collection by 
    > the Happenings and I was sure it's called "It's a 
    > Happening World." I suppose I could be wrong.... 
    
    Their big album (i.e., the one with "I Got Rhythm" and "My
    Mammy" was called, in an amazing burst of inspiration: "The
    Happenings." The record was produced by The Tokens, but 
    there doesn't appear to be any overlap of membership 
    between the two groups.
    
    Just picked up "Wimoweh: The Best of The Tokens" CD, which
    seems to cover only the Tokens' RCA material. My only 
    Tokens LP is "I Hear Trumpets Blow," which is B.T. Puppy's
    #1000 (B.T.'s first release?)
    
    Did the Happenings ever put out a second album?
    
    Dave Feldman
    
    CD of the Week:  The Mockingbirds
    Word of the Week:  Churrascaria
    RIP:  Dusty Springfield
    Best Time Killer of the 90's:  Filling out the UPDATED gender survey at
      "http://www.imponderables.com"
    
    
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    Subject:     Re: Tokens vs. Happenings...You Be The Judge!
    Received:    03/11/99 2:37 am
    From:        David Bash, BashXXXXXXXXom
    To:          Spectropop List, spectroXXXXXXXXties.com
    
    
    Jack Madani, Jack_MadXXXXXXXX12.nj.us wrote:
    
    > I've seen recent digests referring to a Tokens album 
    > called "It's A Happening World." But doesn't that album 
    > get more properly credited to the Happenings? I know the 
    > Happenings are some sort of offshoot-sideproject-
    > pseudonymous alter ego to the Tokens, although I'm not 
    > entirely clear of the specifics of that relationship.
    > 
    > Anyhow, I've got a vinyl lp somewhere in my collection by 
    > the Happenings and I was sure it's called "It's a 
    > Happening World." I suppose I could be wrong.... 
    
    Hi Jack,
    
    The album "It's A Happening World" is indeed by The Tokens, 
    Warner Brothers #1685. 
    
    The album has recently been released by Warner Brothers 
    Japan on CD. The sound quality is great and the disc 
    contains 12 bonus tracks of 45 A's and B's The Tokens had 
    during their Warner period. Many of these sides ended up 
    on their "Intercourse" album, which Warner rejected and 
    The Tokens ultimately released, in very limited quantities, 
    on their own B.T. Puppy label. The Intercourse album has
    also been re-released on CD by B.T. Puppy, and is an 
    interesting slice of urban pop/psychedelia. 
    
    --
    Spectropop Rules!!!!!
    Take Care,
    David Bash
    
    
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    Subject:     It's A Happening World
    Received:    03/11/99 2:37 am
    From:        Javed Jafri, javedjaXXXXXXXXt.ca
    To:          Spectropop List, spectroXXXXXXXXties.com
    
    Jack,
    
    The Happenings were a separate group from the Tokens. They
    recorded for the Tokens record label BT Puppy. Their 
    breakthrough success was "See You In September" in 1966 
    and they also had a fairly decent hit with a cover of 
    Steve Lawrence's "Go Away Little Girl". Their most 
    memorable and successful recording however was a cover of 
    the Gershwin standard "I Got Rhythm". I'm sure you'll love 
    those dit, dit, dit's featured in that song. That's pretty
    much it as far as their well known numbers but they did 
    make the charts with a cover of "My Mammy" in 1967. In the
    midst of the emerging long hair look and sound they were a 
    throwback to an earlier era. Like the Four Seasons or the 
    Vogues they had short hair and wore suits but their 
    singles sounded good on the radio. 
    
    Javed
    
    
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    Subject:     Tokens/Happenings
    Received:    03/11/99 2:37 am
    From:        Paul Urbahns, PaulurbXXXXXXXXom
    To:          Spectropop List, spectroXXXXXXXXties.com
    
    In a message dated 3/9/99 5:33:57 PM Eastern Standard Time,
    spectroXXXXXXXXties.com writes:
    
    > I know the Happenings are some sort of offshoot-sideproject-
    > pseudonymous alter ego to the Tokens, although I'm not 
    > entirely clear of the specifics of that relationship. 
    
    They were two different groups, but the Happenings were 
    produced by the Tokens.
    
    Paul Urbahns
    paulurbXXXXXXXXom
    
    
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    Subject:     Bermudas/Tammys
    Received:    03/11/99 2:37 am
    From:        Ian Chapman, iandXXXXXXXXlnet.co.uk
    To:          Spectropop List, spectroXXXXXXXXties.com
    
    Will:
    
    Relax! The Bermudas were indeed an oriental group, or at 
    least the lead singer - Chu Sen Ling herself - was. If you
    can find a copy of the boot CD "Surf Bunnies & Hot Rod 
    Honeys", you'll see a fantastic colour pic of a 
    bikini-clad Chu Sen Ling posing on a California beach next
    to a surfboard! Great record, too.
    
    Doc:
    
    Glad to see someone else raves over "Egyptian Shumba" - I 
    like this record for exactly the same reasons you listed. 
    Manic!! Now try the Kane Triplets' VOCAL version of "Theme
    >From "Mission Impossible"!! 
    
    Ian
    
    
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    Subject:     Bermudas/Diane Renay/Toys
    Received:    03/11/99 2:37 am
    From:        wsXXXXXXXXtyenet.com
    To:          Spectropop List, spectroXXXXXXXXties.com
    
    Doc wrote: 
    >"The Bermudas sound like Annette and Donna Loren singing 
    >a ballad to put Frankie to sleep."
    
    Well, it is a little tame compared to Shumba, but the novelty 
    makes it kinda fun. 
    
    eva wrote: 
    >their first release was 'Donnie' in early 1964 reaching #62 
    >in the national charts. 
    
    Wow, "Donnie" seemed really forgettable to me. I'm surprised 
    this release wasn't a bigger success.
    
    >"Draggin' Wagon" 'by the Surfer Girls, b/w "One Boy Tells 
    >Another," now THERE is a record. 
    
    You know, this being a site with a lot of Beach Boys, surf
    fans, I don't want to stir any trouble, but aside from a 
    few choice cuts like "He's A Doll," and "The One You Can't
    Have," by the Honeys, "Don't Drag No More," by Susan Lynn, 
    "Surf Bunny Beach," by the Surf Bunnies, and the above 
    mentioned Surfer Girls 45, girl group surf/drag records 
    are my least favourite of the genre. When it comes to the 
    surf sound in general I really find a record either sounds
    incredible or awful. The guy groups were a little better 
    about their material, but the girl groups who tossed their
    hat into the rings just didn't seem to have it. They ended 
    up sounding too cute, or just plain bad sometimes. What 
    does everyone else say about this subject?
    
    Diane Renay! Speaking about sub genres in the girl group 
    era, you had your very own with the whole "navy" thing. 
    With follow-ups like "Kiss Me Sailor," and Bell Bottom 
    Trousers," did you feel like you were being type-cast into
    that sort of thing or even a novelty performer? When you 
    recorded these songs did Bob tell you why he wanted to 
    exploit the success of your first hit? I've personally 
    found your non-naval songs like "Unbelievable Guy," 
    "Watch out Sally," and "Growin' Up Too Fast," to be more 
    energetic and commercial. 
    
    One final note. I just found out Barbara Harris of the 
    Toys ("A Lover's Concerto" and I believe even back-up on 
    some of Diane's records) has released a brand new album on
    her own indie label! She has her own cool website too! I 
    found out that the two other Toys (Barbara Parritt and 
    June Montiero) joined the fake Marvelettes groups of the 
    70s when the Toys disbanded. Write me for the address. 
    
    
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    Subject:     Etta and Frankie and Carol & Alice
    Received:    03/11/99 2:37 am
    From:        CLAUDIA CUNNINGHAM, TPXXXXXXXX.net
    To:          Spectropop List, spectroXXXXXXXXties.com
    
    Just came across a little gem from my collection. This 
    must have been out in the early Sixties, if I recall. The 
    tune is "Pushover" by Miss Etta James. Ms. Etta's voice is
    strong, to say the least...it could scare the buzzards off 
    a garbage truck! If anyone wants a taste of real gritty, 
    down-home soul pre-Aretha buy yourself some of her stuff. 
    There must be a CD out there featuring Etta.
    
    AND...Ol' Blue Eyes, bless his soul, never ceases to 
    amaze. Just after you think you've heard everything he's 
    done, you find something else better than before. May I 
    suggest you check out a little ditty Frank recorded called 
    "You and Me". Talk about overproduced, gorgeous piece of 
    music. This is IT. Highly recommend it. It'll break your 
    heart.
    
    And a question for Carol Kaye: Can you tell us who the 
    musicians were on "Grapevine" with Marvin Gaye, and did 
    you work on any really well known disco records? I know 
    you mentioned you worked on some. T'would like to know.
    
    Thanks! Claudia 
    
    
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    Subject:     Smokie
    Received:    03/11/99 2:37 am
    From:        Ian Chapman, iandXXXXXXXXlnet.co.uk
    To:          Spectropop List, SpectroXXXXXXXXties.com
    
    Warren:
    
    Smokie were rarely out of the UK charts in the mid-late 
    70s...they seemed to be on practically every edition of 
    "Top of the Pops" at the time. Lead singer was Chris 
    Norman. He also did a great soft-rock duet with Suzi Quatro, 
    "Stumblin' In", got to #41 in the UK charts. Smokie are 
    still around, but without Chris, playing the oldies 
    circuits. 
    
    Ian
    
    
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