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Spectropop V#0220

  • From: The Spectropop Group
  • Date: 02/02/99

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       Volume #0220                        February 2, 1999   
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    Subject:     A surprise
    Received:    02/02/99 7:21 am
    From:        WILLIAM STOS, wsXXXXXXXXt.com
    To:          Spectropop List, spectroXXXXXXXXties.com
    
    
    Guess what everybody. My friend Sheila is taking some classes at
    NYU, and she noticed an older black woman sitting in front of her. 
    When the class had to stand up and tell a little bit about 
    themselves, she introduced herself as none other tha Mary Wilson! 
    She didn't mention the Supremes, but said she had become a 
    professional singer at age 13, toured the world, and was now 
    back to take some courses for a new direction in her life. 
    Sheila was blown away! No one else new who she was because she 
    didn't mention the Supremes, but Sheila, who is a huge GG fan 
    knew the whole story. She's going to introduce herself next week. 
    I've invited both Sheila and Katherine Anderson-Schaffner of 
    the Marvelettes to join the group if they have time, and I've 
    also extended an invitation to Mary. Let's all hope they write 
    me back so I can recommend them as new members!
    
    Will
    
    p.s. that new Del-Fi Girl group comp sounds great! what other 
    artists can we expect to hear?
    
    
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    Subject:     Fave Album Cover
    Received:    01/31/99 9:06 pm
    From:        Jimmy Cresitelli, JimmyXXXXXXXXom
    To:          Spectropop List, spectroXXXXXXXXties.com
    
    Well... I'd have to say "The Crystals Twist Uptown," with all 
    those Crystals in their party dresses getting ready to hop into 
    their station wagon. A close second... the Phil Spector 
    Christmas Album... you just KNOW they were all sweating bullets 
    under those hot lights, wearing those wigs and winter sweaters, 
    but you'd never know it judging by those happy smiles. Barbara:
    was everyone present at this Christmas photo shoot, or were the 
    groups spliced together? And I heard once who's on there with 
    Bobby and Fanita. It's not Darlene; is it Carolyn Willis? It 
    would have been odd to have Darlene in two places on that LP 
    cover, even if she WAS photographed separately...
    
    
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    Subject:     Greetings
    Received:    02/02/99 7:21 am
    From:        John Hesterman, ZachaXXXXXXXXffice.worldnet.att.net
    To:          Spectropop List, spectroXXXXXXXXties.com
    
    Hello All :)
    
    I'm not sure who it was that sponsored me to this list, but 
    thank you! I have really enjoyed reading the posts over the last
    couple of weeks and hope I can make occassional contributions 
    that will be of interest to all of you as well.
    
    Thanks again :)
    
    John
    "...together we will explore the great unknown..." 
    Paul McCartney, ONLY LOVE REMAINS
    
    
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    Subject:     It's My Party
    Received:    02/02/99 7:21 am
    From:        Doc Rock, docroXXXXXXXXcom
    To:          Spectropop List, spectroXXXXXXXXties.com
    
    I just received promo/review copies of two CD singles by a GG 
    called It's My Party.
    
    CD one has "I'd Much Rather Be With the Girls" (the Donna Lynn 
    song) and a nifty retro-song called "Can't."
    
    The second CD has "That Boy John" (yes, THAT "That Boy John" b/w
    a wonderful remake of the Secrets' "The Boy Next Door," and "I'm 
    Bobby's Girl."
    
    I recommend them highly. New grist for our mill! Write John at 
    impXXXXXXXXom, and tell 'em Doc sent ya'! It won't do you any 
    good, but I've always wanted to say that!
    
    Doc
    
    
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    Subject:     Re: acetates
    Received:    02/02/99 7:21 am
    From:        Doc Rock, docroXXXXXXXXcom
    To:          Spectropop List, spectroXXXXXXXXties.com
    
    Jamie,
    
    You asked about sessions, and if Diane had acetates of tracks to
    practice her vocals with.
    
    Well, wait til she tells you of the marathon 24-hour Navy Blue 
    LP session, with songs written for her by Bob Crewe on the spot 
    as she slept in the studio!
    
    Take it away, Diane!
    Doc
    
    
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    Subject:     Re: Soft Rock A-Z
    Received:    02/02/99 7:21 am
    From:        Agnes Skinner, MUV96XXXXXXXXnt2.lu.se
    To:          Spectropop List, spectroXXXXXXXXties.com
    
    Harvey Williams wrote:
    
    >and there's a Soft Rock chart placing Salt Water Taffy's 
    >'Finders Keepers' ...
    
    LOL! Hahaha. Y'know, some of my friends think I listen to 
    *totally* unknown 60s bands but I have never in my life heard of 
    Salt Water Taffy!!! Could you describe their music a bit more 
    and possibly give me some reference points (similar artists, 
    that is)?
    
    >which makes one question the compilers' taste (better than 
    >Odessey & Oracle? Pet Sounds? Roger Nichols?).
    
    I've never been able to get into that Zombies record. It's 
    regarded as a masterpiece by many, no?
    
    >As for that SMiLE LP, yeah, I've often wondered about that too.
    >I know it was released on Tenth Planet a while ago; Can't 
    >remember the band's name I'm afraid (something like Five Miles 
    >Beyond..?), tho' I read a review when it came out, & it said 
    >more about the sleeve than the music. Deduce from that what you 
    >will.
    
    It's pretty weird cos it was only 7 british pounds and I simply 
    forgot to buy it! The same happened when I found this pretty 
    rare but cheap 7", Herb Alpert & TB doing a cover of the Beach 
    Boys' "Darlin'" - it was supercheap bit I just forgot to buy it!
    ! Must be something in the London air, me thinks...:)
    
    Elliot Kendall shared this URL with us:
    
    >WEB VANDA <http://www.jah.ne.jp/~vanda/>
    
    
    Thanks, Elliot! I'll definitely bookmark this site.
    
    And then Jamie LePage wrote:
    
    >I too am quite fond of the great harmony vocals of the Mamas and 
    >the Papas, and for more of the same sunshiny vocal sound, I
    >suggest other artists in a similar style: Eternity's Children,
    
    Hmmm...never heard of this group - care to share the essential 
    info?
    
    >Sagittarius, Sunshine Company, Fifth Dimension, for instance.
    
    Sunshine Company....I found one of their records at a record 
    fair a couple of months ago but in the grand tradition of my 
    life, I forgot to buy it!! :) The guy who sold it said it sounds
    like a complete Mamas/Papas rip-off. I've never really liked the 
    latter group - as Marty Rudnick said, the hits are fantastic but
    there's a lot of filler on their LPs - so I guess I wouldn't 
    enjoy SC, right? I'm more into the Brill Building/
    Bacharach-styled soft rock.....
    
    The Cyrkle - what about them?
    
    Will get to that reply soon, Marty...
    
    Tobias
    
    
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    Subject:     Re: What is soft rock?
    Received:    02/02/99 7:21 am
    From:        Jamie LePage, le_page_XXXXXXXXties.com
    To:          Spectropop List, spectroXXXXXXXXties.com
    
    
    Intriguing post, Frank.  
    
    >>and there's a Soft Rock chart placing Salt Water Taffy's '
    >>Finders Keepers' at the top, which makes one question the 
    >>compilers' taste (better than Odessey & Oracle? Pet Sounds? 
    >>Roger Nichols?)
    >
    >I'm fascinated by the Japanese take on soft rock, which appears 
    >to be every bit as hip over there as it's traditionally been 
    >un-hip here.
    
    I share Frank's fascination. Why do the Japanese judge the 
    arguably "unhip" Salt Water Taffy as an equal to the most 
    highly revered albums of this genre: Pet Sounds and Odessey 
    & Oracle?
    
    One aspect of so-called "soft rock" that makes it so relevant to
    this discussion group is that it evolved directly from the 
    Brill Building/Girl Group school. Riopell from Spector to Parade, 
    Usher from Hondells to Sagittarius, David Gates from Girlfriends
    to Bread, and like that. But by 1968, the old school music makers
    were perceived by the new Rock movement as going in a decidedly 
    unhip direction. The real time prejudice against love american 
    styled pop music is sort of irrelevant now, especially for those 
    whose discovery of this music is recent. And while appreciation of 
    music is always subjective, certainly the schooled musicians' and 
    arrangers' work of this period is far more structured than much of 
    the Rock music that came out at this time. Anyone heard of Blue 
    Cheer? 
    
    The 20's to 30's Japanese who buy "soft rock" I guess are 
    detached even one level further; that is, the nuance of lyric 
    and its importance to the mood of a song is often only partially
    understood and often not taken into consideration. So a lyric 
    like "Finders keepers, losers weepers-You should have woke up 
    before you broke up" may not sound as ridiculous as it does to 
    many native English speakers.
    
    >To me O&O is a little arty, Pet Sounds a tad whiney; though 
    >frankly I'm surprised Roger's not at the top of that list.
    
    I had to smile at that. Both O&O and PS would be in my desert 
    island list if I ever bothered to make one, but I get what you 
    mean about arty and whiney. Hey, that's part of what makes them 
    so darn good. And you're right about Roger Nichols, Frank; in 
    the Japanese definition of soft rock Small Circle of Friends is 
    godhead.
    
    I just have to say Salt Water Taffy doesn't suck if you like all
    the Kama Sutra/Buddah stuff. But for those whose taste for soft 
    rock leans toward the A&M and Burbank sound, some of the more 
    contrived stuff lauded under the so-called soft rock banner ends
    up sounding like second rate bubblegum music.
    
    --
    Art and wine rule!!!!!
    All the best,
    Jamie LePage 
    
    
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    Subject:     Ronnie Spector ep
    Received:    02/02/99 7:21 am
    From:        john rausch, jXXXXXXXXnet
    To:          Spectropop List, spectroXXXXXXXXties.com
    
    I found Ronnie`s new ep at:
    http://www.musicblvd.com/cgi-bin/tw
    
    
    This address goes to a special $5 off any order so the cd comes 
    to like $8.99 including postage...can`t beat that!
    
    and to Jack Madani:
    
    I have Diane`s "I Had A Dream" on an import cd, drop me a line if
    you are interested.
    
    and to Diane:
    
    I have never heard the song "please gypsy" can you describe this
    one? and for Barbara Alston: I just came across an original 
    Crystals sing the greatest lp on Philles and there are 2 tracks 
    on this lp that have never been reissued to my knowledge: Wah 
    Watusi and Gee Whiz Both are great cover versions and I wonder 
    if you are on these 2 tracks?
    
    and for Carol Kaye:
    
    Have you ever worked with Bob Crewe?
    
    John Rausch
    
    
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    Subject:     celebs on line
    Received:    02/02/99 7:21 am
    From:        Shelby Riggs, fifties4eXXXXXXXX.com
    To:          Spectropop List, spectroXXXXXXXXties.com
    
    I have invited about 30 singers from the 50's & 
    60's era to join our discussion group. They are:
    
    Alan O'Day, Buddy Knox, Betty Johnson, Bucky Wilkins
    of Ronnie & the Daytonas, Garry Miles, Bruce Channel,
    Dale Hawkins, Ronnie Hawkins, Dick Dale, Dobie Gray,
    Gary US Bonds, Gene Hughes of the Casinos, Hoyt Axton,
    James Quill Smith, Jimmy Gilmer, Joey Dee, Johnny 
    Crawford, Bob Curtola, Kay Krebs of the Pixies Three,
    Terri Fisher of the Murmaids, LeRoy Van Dyke, Lenny
    Welch, Lonnie Mack, Paul Evans, Ray Stevens, Robin 
    Luke, Ronnie Dove, Rosalie Hamlin(Rosie & the 
    Originals, Shelby Flint, Tommy Facenda, Troy Shondell,
    Van Williams (Green Hornet), and Kathy Young. 
    
    If we could add some of these people, it would make it very
    interesting.
    
    Shelby Riggs
    
    
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