_____________________________________________________________________ ________________ _______________ ________________ _______________ ________________ S P E C T R O P O P _______________ ________________ _______________ _____________________________________________________________________ Volume #0209 January 13, 1999 _____________________________________________________________________ Tapping the biggest undeveloped field in the automatic music businessSubject: Re: Dave Clark Received: 01/12/99 7:26 am From: Alec Palao, pXXXXXXXXs.com To: Spectropop List, spectrXXXXXXXXties.com >Some years back, there was an interview in Discoveries magazine >with Andy White, who played drums on the Beatles' "Love Me Do," >and he mentioned another drummer whom he said "played on all the >DC5 stuff." The writer didn't follow up on this comment! Arrgh! It's generally acknowledged to be Bobby Graham, top UK 60s session drummer and pal of Jimmy Page etc. Ray Davies let that slip publicly somewhere in one of his recent memoirs, but it's been common knowledge in UK music biz circles for years. ALEC --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Subject: Re: Dave Clark 5 Received: 01/12/99 7:26 am From: Billy G. Spradlin, bgspraXXXXXXXXlink.net To: Spectropop List, spectrXXXXXXXXties.com >From what I read in Goldmine when the 2-fer came out, Longtime DC-5 Engineer Adrian Kerrage had remixed allmost all of the DC-5's hits in 1968 for a Greatest Hits compilation, and those mixes were used for other compilations in the 1970's. (I just wished there was a stereo mix of "Anyway You Want it") Until some time in 1967, all of the DC-5's recordings had been mixed in mono only. It's probably the usual reasons why they were done this way; mono was more popular in England during the mid 60's, teenagers bought more mono records than stereo, records were mixed for AM radio, etc. I think the mono mixes are great. It sounds like Dave Clark was heavly influenced by American producers like Spector and also Joe Meek in his production work with the echo, reverb, and compression. His records had a really hot sound that jumped out of the speakers and attacked listeners. A lot of the DC-5's stereo recordings are fantastic sounding, but there are some differences in the mono/stereo versions, especally in the use of echo on the vocals. I wish they were available on CD, but I guess we better hang on to our vinyl. At least Epic never held the rights to the DC-5's recordings. On the Hollies stuff, Epic put out inferior sounding CD's from 5th generation LP masters back in the 80's. Billy G. Billy G. Spradlin 29 Rim Road Kilgore, Texas 75662 Email: bgspraXXXXXXXXlink.net Homepage: http://home.earthlink.net/~bgspradlin/ --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Subject: Dave Clark stereo mixes Received: 01/13/99 1:23 am From: Paul Urbahns, PaulurXXXXXXXXom To: Spectropop List, spectrXXXXXXXXties.com Greg wrote > I wonder what "financial consideration" kept stereo mixes off the > CD release? On one of the last DC5 comps that Epic released, I > think it was called "The Dave Clark Five," there are some > beautiful stereo mixes. In a Goldmine article around the time of > the CD release, Dave tried to pull a George Martin and claim that > there weren't supposed to be any stereo versions of these songs. Financial considerations had nothing to do with it. Most of the DC5 stuff came out in reprocessed mono on Epic because Dave didn't do stereo mixes. In the 70's EMI issued a stereo album of the stuff which I have. There was an article in Billboard where the engineer that did the remixes criticized them. I like them better than the monos personally, but I have to admit they don't have the punch the monos have. Dave Clark owns his own material. He decided to issue it in mono. I don't agree with the decision, but I support his right to his opinion. You'll just have to live with the monos. The difference between Dave Clark and the Beatles producer, George Martin, was George tried to rewrite history by saying the Beatles albums were not issued in stereo in the past, which they were. The DC5 stuff was rechanneled and not in true stereo in the 60s, so in this respect Clark should not be compared to George Martin. Paul Urbahns paulurXXXXXXXXom Does anybody know if Dave Clark & friends song "Rub It In" from the early 70s has been reissued? --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Subject: Re: Dave Clark Received: 01/13/99 7:15 am From: David Bash, BasXXXXXXXXom To: Spectropop List, spectrXXXXXXXXties.com > I really don't understand what the beef is... let's hear it.. > what is he holding back on? I don't see the DC5 rerecording their > hits like the Cameo Parkway artists. There is no comparison in my > mind between Dave Clark and Allen Klein. Even though he (Dave > Clark) didn't read your message, you owe him a big apology. > Paul Urbahns Hi Paul, I didn't mean to suggest that Dave Clark was like Allen Klein in every respect, but only in the sense that he is holding things back from the public. A few years ago he led people to believe that he would lease The Dave Clark Five's proper albums and got several of his fans' hopes up. So far he hasn't delivered, and based upon his past track record it seemed to me that this is primarily motivated by financial greed. If I'm wrong about this, then I do apologize (in spirit at least, since I don't know how to reach Mr. Clark). -- Spectropop Rules!!!!! Take Care, David --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Subject: Johnny Moore Received: 01/13/99 1:23 am From: Scott Bauman, ScottBaXXXXXXXX.msn.com To: Spectropop List, spectrXXXXXXXXties.com Jamie LePage wrote: "Moore rejoined the Drifters in 1961 and sang with Rudy Lewis on such hits as 'Up on The Roof' and 'On Broadway.' In 1964 Moore became the lead singer after Lewis died of a suspected drug overdose. His first recording as Drifters' lead singer was the smash hit, 'Under The Boardwalk', recorded one day after Lewis died. 'Under The Boardwalk' reportedly features Phil Spector on guitar. . . . P.S. Correction, clarification or embellishment is welcome." I know that Phil played guitar on "On Broadway." Did he also play guitar on "Under the Boardwalk"? -- Scott --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Subject: The Drifters/Johnny Moore/Bill Pinkney Received: 01/13/99 1:23 am From: Richard Globman, rgloXXXXXXXXmm.net To: Spectropop List, spectrXXXXXXXXties.com Jamie gave us a great post about Johnny Moore & The Drifters: >Johnny Moore, one of the lead singers featured on many of the >Drifters' big hits, died in London on December 30th while on >route to hospital. He was 64. Moore reportedly had been suffering >from breathing difficulties. (etc.) Jamie... The group that tours around the southeast is called "Bill Pinkney and the Original Drifters". Your post mentions Clyde McPhatter and Johnny Moore as the chief honchos... Where does Bill Pinkney fit in here? DICKYG --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Subject: Le Magnifique Carol Kaye Received: 01/13/99 1:23 am From: CLAUDIA CUNNINGHAM, TXXXXXXXX.net To: Spectropop List, spectrXXXXXXXXties.com Carol, that was a wonderful story of your early years. After only a few months of training as a young girl you were able to go out and teach others. You always had the music in you! Please keep us posted on your upcoming A&E appearance as well as all other endeavors. I will be first in line to buy your book when it comes out. You have been part of our lives for over 30 years and we never knew it! It's about time we know all about you and the wonderful history you share with us. May I put you in my scrapbook? Claudia --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Subject: Bumps, Phil, and the Clavinette Received: 01/13/99 1:23 am From: Greg Matecko, motXXXXXXXXama.com To: Spectropop List, spectrXXXXXXXXties.com A question for Carol: In your recent post, you mention some of your first session work was with Bumps Blackwell. Somewhere buried on an old Beta tape, I have a poor copy of a very interesting documentary on Phil Spector. At one point, Bumps is really going after Phil for "stealing the black sound." Did your work for Phil cause any bad blood between you and Bumps, or was this an opinion he develped years after the fact? If anybody in Spectropopland has a better VHS copy of that documentary, I'd love to hear from you!:-) That funky bass on "Superstition": I believe Mr. Wonder was playing a Clavinette on "Superstition" as well as "Higher Ground." The thing looks like a piano and sounds like a bass. I was given one a few years ago and traded it for some effects for the home studio. Yeah, I know...we all get a little stupid sometimes... Greg Matecko --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Subject: Barry, Cyn & Jimmy Webb on Roseanne Received: 01/13/99 1:23 am From: R Teyes, RTXXXXXXXXom To: Spectropop List, spectrXXXXXXXXties.com Barry Mann, Cynthia Weil, Jimmy Webb on the Roseanne Show By Robert Tirado (the Ronette Hound) These three writers briefly mentioned Phil Spector and how important his influence was with their songs. They sang bits of their hits, they reminisced about the old days and joked. Even Jimmy Webb mentioned Phil's failure with River Deep when Roseanne asked about songs they felt wouldn't make it. Cynthia remarked on her skill more as a lyricist and Barry stated that melodies just came from a source above. I am glad Roseanne had them on her show but Roseanne can be quite common at times; not knowing probably that these writers are the best around. She even chided Diane Warren who was present by saying that she looked "odd". Odd or not, Diane is an excellent writer : "Unbreak My heart", "Rhythm of The Night" et al. Nonetheless, it was a great show for trivia buffs and oldies lovers. I know I enjoyed it! --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- End
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