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Spectropop V#0209

  • From: The Spectropop Group
  • Date: 01/12/99

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       Volume #0209                                   January 13, 1999   
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    Tapping the biggest undeveloped field in the automatic music business
    
    
    
    
    
    Subject:     Re: Dave Clark
    Received:    01/12/99 7:26 am
    From:        Alec Palao, pXXXXXXXXs.com
    To:          Spectropop List, spectrXXXXXXXXties.com
    
    >Some years back, there was an interview in Discoveries magazine
    >with Andy White, who played drums on the Beatles' "Love Me Do,"
    >and he mentioned another drummer whom he said "played on all the
    >DC5 stuff." The writer didn't follow up on this comment! Arrgh!
    
    It's generally acknowledged to be Bobby Graham, top UK 60s 
    session drummer and pal of Jimmy Page etc. Ray Davies let that 
    slip publicly somewhere in one of his recent memoirs, but it's 
    been common knowledge in UK music biz circles for years.
    
    ALEC
    
    
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    Subject:     Re: Dave Clark 5
    Received:    01/12/99 7:26 am
    From:        Billy G. Spradlin, bgspraXXXXXXXXlink.net
    To:          Spectropop List, spectrXXXXXXXXties.com
    
    >From what I read in Goldmine when the 2-fer came out, Longtime 
    DC-5 Engineer Adrian Kerrage had remixed allmost all of the DC-5's 
    hits in 1968 for a Greatest Hits compilation, and those mixes
    were used for other compilations in the 1970's. (I just wished 
    there was a stereo mix of "Anyway You Want it")
    
    Until some time in 1967, all of the DC-5's recordings had been 
    mixed in mono only. It's probably the usual reasons why they 
    were done this way; mono was more popular in England during the 
    mid 60's, teenagers bought more mono records than stereo, 
    records were mixed for AM radio, etc. I think the mono mixes are
    great. It sounds like Dave Clark was heavly influenced by 
    American producers like Spector and also Joe Meek in his 
    production work with the echo, reverb, and compression. His 
    records had a really hot sound that jumped out of the speakers 
    and attacked listeners.
    
    A lot of the DC-5's stereo recordings are fantastic sounding, 
    but there are some differences in the mono/stereo versions, 
    especally in the use of echo on the vocals. I wish they were 
    available on CD, but  I guess we better hang on to our vinyl. At 
    least Epic never held the rights to the DC-5's recordings. On the 
    Hollies stuff, Epic put out inferior sounding CD's from 5th 
    generation LP masters back in the 80's. 
    
    Billy G.
    Billy G. Spradlin
    29 Rim Road
    Kilgore, Texas 75662
    Email: bgspraXXXXXXXXlink.net
    Homepage: http://home.earthlink.net/~bgspradlin/
    
    
    
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    Subject:     Dave Clark stereo mixes
    Received:    01/13/99 1:23 am
    From:        Paul Urbahns, PaulurXXXXXXXXom
    To:          Spectropop List, spectrXXXXXXXXties.com
    
    Greg wrote
    
    > I wonder what "financial consideration" kept stereo mixes off the
    > CD release? On one of the last DC5 comps that Epic released, I 
    > think it was called "The Dave Clark Five," there are some 
    > beautiful stereo mixes. In a Goldmine article around the time of 
    > the CD release, Dave tried to pull a George Martin and claim that
    > there weren't supposed to be any stereo versions of these songs.
    
    Financial considerations had nothing to do with it. Most of the 
    DC5 stuff came out in reprocessed mono on Epic because Dave 
    didn't do stereo mixes. In the 70's EMI issued a stereo album of
    the stuff which I have. There was an article in Billboard where 
    the engineer that did the remixes criticized them. I like them 
    better than the monos personally, but I have to admit they don't
    have the punch the monos have. Dave Clark owns his own material. 
    He decided to issue it in mono. I don't agree with the decision,
    but I support his right to his opinion.
    
    You'll just have to live with the monos. The difference between 
    Dave Clark and the Beatles producer, George Martin, was George 
    tried to rewrite history by saying the Beatles albums were not 
    issued in stereo in the past, which they were. The DC5 stuff was 
    rechanneled and not in true stereo in the 60s, so in this respect 
    Clark should not be compared to George Martin.
    
    Paul Urbahns
    paulurXXXXXXXXom
    Does anybody know if Dave Clark & friends song "Rub It In" from 
    the early 70s has been reissued?
    
    
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    Subject:     Re: Dave Clark
    Received:    01/13/99 7:15 am
    From:        David Bash, BasXXXXXXXXom
    To:          Spectropop List, spectrXXXXXXXXties.com
    
    
    
    > I really don't understand what the beef is... let's hear it..
    > what is he holding back on? I don't see the DC5 rerecording their
    > hits like the Cameo Parkway artists. There is no comparison in my 
    > mind between Dave Clark and Allen Klein. Even though he (Dave 
    > Clark) didn't read your message, you owe him a big apology.
      
    > Paul Urbahns
    
    Hi Paul,
    
    I didn't mean to suggest that Dave Clark was like Allen Klein in
    every respect, but only in the sense that he is holding things 
    back from the public. A few years ago he led people to believe 
    that he would lease The Dave Clark Five's proper albums and got 
    several of his fans' hopes up. So far he hasn't delivered, and 
    based upon his past track record it seemed to me that this is 
    primarily motivated by financial greed. If I'm wrong about this,
    then I do apologize (in spirit at least, since I don't know how 
    to reach Mr. Clark).
    --
    Spectropop Rules!!!!!
    Take Care,
    David
    
    
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    Subject:     Johnny Moore
    Received:    01/13/99 1:23 am
    From:        Scott Bauman, ScottBaXXXXXXXX.msn.com
    To:          Spectropop List, spectrXXXXXXXXties.com
    
    Jamie LePage wrote:
    
    "Moore rejoined the Drifters in 1961 and sang with Rudy Lewis on
    such hits as 'Up on The Roof' and 'On Broadway.' In 1964 Moore
    became the lead singer after Lewis died of a suspected drug
    overdose. His first recording as Drifters' lead singer was the
    smash hit, 'Under The Boardwalk', recorded one day after Lewis
    died. 'Under The Boardwalk' reportedly features Phil Spector on
    guitar. . . .
    
    P.S. Correction, clarification or embellishment is welcome."
    
    I know that Phil played guitar on "On Broadway."  Did he also play 
    guitar on "Under the Boardwalk"?
    
    -- Scott
    
    
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    Subject:     The Drifters/Johnny Moore/Bill Pinkney
    Received:    01/13/99 1:23 am
    From:        Richard Globman, rgloXXXXXXXXmm.net
    To:          Spectropop List, spectrXXXXXXXXties.com
    
    Jamie gave us a great post about Johnny Moore & The Drifters:
    
    >Johnny Moore, one of the lead singers featured on many of the 
    >Drifters' big hits, died in London on December 30th while on 
    >route to hospital. He was 64. Moore reportedly had been suffering
    >from breathing difficulties.
    
    (etc.)
    
    Jamie...
    
    The group that tours around the southeast is called "Bill 
    Pinkney and the Original Drifters". Your post mentions Clyde 
    McPhatter and Johnny Moore as the chief honchos...
    
    Where does Bill Pinkney fit in here?
    
    DICKYG
    
    
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    Subject:     Le Magnifique Carol Kaye
    Received:    01/13/99 1:23 am
    From:        CLAUDIA CUNNINGHAM, TXXXXXXXX.net
    To:          Spectropop List, spectrXXXXXXXXties.com
    
    Carol, that was a wonderful story of your early years. After 
    only a few months of training as a young girl you were able to 
    go out and teach others. You always had the music in you!
    
    Please keep us posted on your upcoming A&E appearance as well as
    all other endeavors. I will be first in line to buy your book 
    when it comes out.
    
    You have been part of our lives for over 30 years and we never 
    knew it! It's about time we know all about you and the wonderful
    history you share with us.
    
    May I put you in my scrapbook? Claudia 
    
    
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    Subject:     Bumps, Phil, and the Clavinette
    Received:    01/13/99 1:23 am
    From:        Greg Matecko, motXXXXXXXXama.com
    To:          Spectropop List, spectrXXXXXXXXties.com
    
    A question for Carol:
    
    In your recent post, you mention some of your first session work
    was with Bumps Blackwell. Somewhere buried on an old Beta tape, I
    have a poor copy of a very interesting documentary on Phil 
    Spector. At one point, Bumps is really going after Phil for 
    "stealing the black sound." Did your work for Phil cause any bad 
    blood between you and Bumps, or was this an opinion he develped 
    years after the fact?
    
    If anybody in Spectropopland has a better VHS copy of that 
    documentary, I'd love to hear from you!:-)
    
    That funky bass on "Superstition":
    
    I believe Mr. Wonder was playing a Clavinette on "Superstition" 
    as well as "Higher Ground." The thing looks like a piano and 
    sounds like a bass. I was given one a few years ago and traded 
    it for some effects for the home studio. Yeah, I know...we all 
    get a little stupid sometimes...
    
    Greg Matecko
    
    
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    Subject:     Barry, Cyn & Jimmy Webb on Roseanne
    Received:    01/13/99 1:23 am
    From:        R Teyes, RTXXXXXXXXom
    To:          Spectropop List, spectrXXXXXXXXties.com
    
    Barry Mann, Cynthia Weil, Jimmy Webb  on the Roseanne Show
    By Robert Tirado (the Ronette Hound)
    
    These three writers briefly mentioned Phil Spector and how 
    important his influence was with their songs. They sang bits of 
    their hits, they reminisced about the old days and joked. Even 
    Jimmy Webb mentioned Phil's failure with River Deep when 
    Roseanne asked about songs they felt wouldn't make it.
    
    Cynthia remarked on her skill more as a lyricist  and Barry 
    stated that melodies just came from a source above.
    
    I am glad Roseanne had them on her show but Roseanne can be 
    quite common at times; not knowing probably that these writers 
    are the best around. She even chided Diane Warren who was 
    present by saying that she looked "odd". Odd or not, Diane is an
    excellent writer : "Unbreak My heart", "Rhythm of The Night" et 
    al.
    
    Nonetheless, it was a great show for trivia buffs and oldies 
    lovers. I know I enjoyed it!
    
    
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