__________________________________________________________ __________ __________ __________ __________ __________ S P E C T R O P O P __________ __________ __________ __________________________________________________________ Volume #0196 December 16, 1998 __________________________________________________________ where the action isSubject: Nuggets Sent: 12/15/98 12:51 pm Received: 12/16/98 12:53 am From: Jamie LePage, le_pageXXXXXXXXties.com To: Spectropop List, spectrXXXXXXXXties.com JM wrote to the Spectropop List: > >...the new Nuggets box on Rhino... > >sound quality is great and unlike some recent comps on Sundazed >they used the same takes as the original singles. Glad you brought this up Jonah because the Nuggets box is essential! I've been playing bits of this nearly every day for weeks now. It's an expensive buy no doubt but when you think there are over 100 tracks on here and singles used to cost a buck, well, it's a good investment. The mastering, production, research and extensive liner notes/essays on this set are textbook examples of how to do a reissue. Kudos to the Spectropop list members who contributed to this set. -- le_pageXXXXXXXXties.com RodeoDrive/5030 --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Subject: Re: Dovers Sent: 12/15/98 12:30 pm Received: 12/16/98 12:53 am From: Alec Palao, pXXXXXXXXs.com To: Spectropop List, spectrXXXXXXXXties.com >One song in particular caught my ear: "What Am I Going To Do" by >the Dovers, which the liner notes say were a Santa Barbara >band. This beautiful track has a really ethereal blue-eyed soul >sound, kind of Rascals-cum-Phil Spector (strangely appropriate... >because Jerry Wexler's autobio points out that Phil wanted to sign >the Young Rascals but was outclassed), and haunting vocals. The >liner notes suggest the Dovers recorded more work of this kind >but... Where can I find it? I can't seem to find any more info >about this band at all. Any Santa Barbara locals out there? The Dovers are probably the holy grail of 1960s garage/folk rock, and there's a lot of reissue bozos - myself included - that would jump at the chance to legitimately release their stuff. I'm pretty sure that both sides of all four of their 45s have been included on bootleg garage comps, starting with the second volume of Pebbles in 1980. Without exception all their recorded output is outstanding, whether it be folk pop like "I Could Be Happy", "Your Love" and the aforementioned "What Am I Gonna Do", British Invasion-type sounds ("About Me"), freaky proto-psych punk ("The Third Eye", " She's Not Just Anybody") or just indescribably cool ("She's Gone"). Lead singer/songwriter Tim Granada had an odd, quavering singing style and there's judicious use of 12-string on all their records, along with an underlying manic energy. All I can tell you is that they typically began as a surf band, recorded at Gold Star and were obscure in Santa Barbara even at the time. Supposedly there's unissued material, but their producer has disappeared off the face of the earth, and the few collectors that have tracked down members of the band certainly aren't sharing any info. ALEC --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Subject: Fowley/Dovers Sent: 12/15/98 2:51 pm Received: 12/16/98 12:53 am From: Frank Youngwerth, FXXXXXXXXom To: Spectropop List, spectrXXXXXXXXties.com "To my very pleasant surprise, the (Nuggets) box concentrates on rockin' tunes and there are only a handful of "novelty" singles (like Kim Fowley's "The Trip," which is really annoying)." I've always preferred a (sorta) cover version, "Let's Take a Trip," by an L.A. dj named Godfrey. He delivers the "rap" with more gusto than Kim's fey original. And if you don't like the latter, by all means steer clear of the recent Outlaw Superman comp (Bacchus Archives/Dionysus), which brings together all sorts of bizarre and obscure Fowley-related 60s/70s singles. "One song in particular caught my ear: "What Am I Going To Do" by the Dovers...The liner notes suggest the Dovers recorded more work of this kind but... Where can I find it? " There were 4 Dovers singles, according to the liner notes of Essential Pebbles v.1 (a double CD on AIP, dist. by Caroline), which contains another seductive Dovers classic, the Byrds-ish "She's Not Just Anybody." I think all the band's sides have been scattered across the Pebbles series of LPs and CDs, but I've never seen more than 2 tracks on the same comp (that being the original v.2 LP, which has "What Am I Going to Do" and "She's Gone"-- obviously not the Hall & Oates song--wonderfully haunting as well). The Nuggets booklet has way more info on them than I've seen anywhere else. --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Subject: I Wonder Sent: 12/16/98 12:16 am Received: 12/16/98 12:53 am From: john rausch, XXXXXXXXnet To: Spectropop List, spectrXXXXXXXXties.com To Jimmy Cresitelli: Which version of the Ronettes "I Wonder" are you referring to: the mono mix that starts cold or the stereo with the extra drum intro? Also I would like to welcome Carol Kaye to our group "Hi Carol." Jonr --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Subject: Re: I Wonder Sent: 12/15/98 9:05 am Received: 12/16/98 12:53 am From: wXXXXXXXXtyenet.com To: Spectropop List, spectrXXXXXXXXties.com I remember the thrill we all got years ago when the Crystals' "I Wonder" hit the circuit... effectively blowing all other known versions / permutations out of the water... though, personally, I think it's a tie with Ronnie's version; I love the way "I Wonder" begins on the Ronettes' LP. I have to disagree with you here Jimmy. I'm a big Crystals and Ronettes fan, but I think the best version of "I Wonder" has to be by the Butterflys on Red Bird. The majestic slow start takes my breath away every time. In fact, Barbara, you can correct me if I'm wrong, but I've heard rumour that the Butterflys actually featured Mary of the Crystals on lead vocals or backing vocals along with Ellie Greenwich. The version of this song on the two cd set The Red Bird Story is the best one to hear. It's crystal (no pun intended) clear, and positively thunderous. The Crystals version ranks second by a narrow margin, and the Ronettes place third. What other versions are around? Will --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Subject: Re: Barry Mann, Schizo Genius Sent: 12/15/98 11:45 am Received: 12/16/98 12:53 am From: Mark Landwehr, msXXXXXXXXbs.com To: Spectropop List, SpectrXXXXXXXXties.com Many moons ago, Columbia issued to radio stations only an LP called "Mann & Weil: Solid Gold." It contains: "Bless You " - Tony Orlando "He's Sure the Boy I Love" - Crystals "Hungry" - Paul Revere & the Raiders "I Just Can't Help Believing" - B.J. Thomas "I'm Gonna Be Strong" - Gene Pitney "Just a Little Lovin'" - Dusty Springfield "Kicks" - Paul Revere & the Raiders "Magic Town" - Vogues "Make Your Own Kind of Music" - Mama Cass "My Dad" - Paul Petersen "Soul and Inspiration" - Righteous Brothers "Uptown" - Crystals "Walking in the Rain" - Ronettes "We Gotta Get Out of This Place" - Animals Just looking at the wide variety of music presented, all hits, boggles the mind. Mark (Philles Phanatic) http://www.toltbbs.com/~msland/Spector --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Subject: Lower the Flame Sent: 12/15/98 10:28 am Received: 12/16/98 12:53 am From: Doc Rock, docrXXXXXXXXcom To: Spectropop List, spectrXXXXXXXXties.com Does anyone know of a GG song, by the Shirelles I think, called "Lower the Flame?" Doc --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Subject: Ultimate Ronettes Sent: 12/16/98 12:49 am Received: 12/16/98 12:55 am From: john rausch, XXXXXXXXnet To: Spectropop List, spectrXXXXXXXXties.com Marc Wielage asked: Tell me more about the ULTIMATE RONETTES disc. Does anybody know who's selling it in the U.S.? Marc, Ultimate Ronettes has some but not all of the Colpix lp in stereo and all the Presenting...lp in stereo, also includes their other cuts in mono plus I Can Hear Music, Baby Let's Be Lovers and the 3 xmas songs (mono) 29 cuts total. here are 2 sites I get alot of my imports from - Discollector: http://www.discol.com and Rock Classics http://www.portorchard.com/rockclassics They both had the "Ultimate" cd at one time. It may be out of print now but good luck. And to Carol Kaye: Just saw your interview in the new issue of Discoveries magazine. It always amazes me how many hits you have played on! You mention playing on "River Deep, Mountain High" and mention Tina overdubbing her voice...there is a part in the song when she sings "Oh I Love You Baby....Baby....Baby and it sounds like a choir is singing with her (especially prominent in stereo). Is that Tina overdubbing or was there a choir there or were they the regulars who always sang on all Phil`s hits? It's always been my favorite part of the song. Jonr Phil Spector`s Wall Of SoXXXXXXXX://members.tripod.com/~rauschj/ --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- End
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