__________________________________________________________ __________ __________ __________ __________ __________ S P E C T R O P O P __________ __________ __________ __________________________________________________________ Volume #0193 December 11, 1998 __________________________________________________________ featuring radio and recording favoritesSubject: National Academy of Songwriters (Warning: Long Message) Sent: 12/10/98 3:20 pm Received: 12/11/98 7:13 am From: Scott Bauman, ScottBaXXXXXXXX.msn.com To: Spectropop List, spectrXXXXXXXXties.com Last Wednesday, I attended the National Academy of Songwriters Lifetime Achievement Awards. I've been meaning to tell you all about it, but I've been very busy. Here's the details. First, I got to meet Jerry Leiber and Barry Mann! How cool is that? The first honoree was Jeff Barry. He was introduced by Paul Williams. Jeff, accompanied by someone on electric guitar, proceeded to sing 3 country (?) songs that he wrote (none of which I had ever heard before) followed by an unforgettable 6 1/2 minute medley of hits that he wrote, including: Tell Laura I Love Her, Do Wah Diddy Diddy, Then He Kissed Me, Chapel of Love, Leader of the Pack, River Deep Mountain High, Be My Baby, Sugar Sugar, and I Honestly Love You. Before he began the medley, he said he wasn't going to include Hanky, Panky because it was a silly song that he wrote in the hallway with Ellie, but then he sang about 5 seconds of it anyway. The next honoree, Johnny Cash, couldn't attend because of illness. Mark Collie, a country singer that I never heard of, performed surprisingly strong acoustic versions of the following Johnny Cash songs: I Walk The Line, I Still Miss Someone, Don't Take Your Guns To Town, Fulsom Prison Blues The next honoree was Lester Sill. Cynthia Weil gave a nice talk about how writer-friendly Lester was and then Barry Mann came out and did a lengthy medley of songs that he was involved with as a tribute to Lester: On Broadway, Only In America, Blame It On the Bossa Nova, I Love How You Love Me, My Dad, Uptown, He's Sure the Boy I Love, Walkin' In The Rain, She's Who Put the Bomp, You've Lost That Lovin' Feeling, Soul and Inspiration, We Gotta Get Out of This Place, Kicks, Hungry, Just A Little Lovin', I Just Can't Help Believing, Make Your Own Kind of Music, Patches, Rock and Roll Lullaby, Here You Come Again, Sometimes When We Touch, Just Once, Never Gonna Let You Go, and Don't Know Much. The final honoree was Brian Wilson. Brian was introduced by Carnie and Wendy, and then Brian performed In My Room, Lay Down Burden, and Do It Again accompanied by Carnie and Wendy on vocals and Jeffrey Foskett on acoustic guitar and vocals. The harmonies sounded very ragged on In My Room, but they sounded pretty good on the other 2 songs. Afterwards, Brian gave a speech in which he acknowledged Carole King as the greatest inspiration and motivation for his songwriting. However, the best line of the night was Brian's opening line (the only one that wasn't written out). He began: "I'm sorry that Phil Spector couldn't be here tonight, but that's probably a good thing. If he was here, I'd probably pass out." The crowd included, in addition to the aforementioned individuals, Mike Stoller, Lamont Dozier and Jackson Browne. Between Jeff Barry, Mann/Weil, Leiber/Stoller, Brian Wilson, Lamont Dozier, Paul Williams and Jackson Browne, I wonder how many Top Forty Hits they wrote? Sorry I didn't go into much depth as I would've liked, but if I waited until I had time it might not be for another few weeks. -- Scott --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Subject: Gene Pitney, It Hurts to Be in Love Sent: 12/10/98 7:09 am Received: 12/10/98 8:33 am From: JM, jhorXXXXXXXXyan.edu To: Spectropop List, spectrXXXXXXXXties.com This is probably an arcane question, but... I've always loved the female backing vocals on Gene Pitney's "It Hurts to Be In Love". Does anyone know who these girls were? Some more questions... Were most of the sessions for Pitney's Musicor LPs done in New York or Los Angeles? And does anyone know what Gene's up to these days? He's been pretty quiet the past three decades, it seems. JM --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Subject: One [off-era?] defense of Collectables Sent: 12/11/98 3:57 am Received: 12/11/98 7:13 am From: Jeffrey Thames, KingoGXXXXXXXXom To: Spectropop List, spectrXXXXXXXXties.com In a message dated 12/8/98 5:19:57 PM Central Standard Time, PaulurXXXXXXXXom writes: >I am not impressed by Collectables, they use the >wrong versions on 45's and some of the CD's are from albums. My >Angels is even though they claim they had a tape. Of course some >may be remastered but there is no way of telling what you are >getting. They don't know oldies music. Period. I'd look elsewhere. I have one full-length Collectables CD (in addition to a few CD singles, and those are chancy, I'll grant you), and it's probably one of the few times they got it right. It's M's *Pop Muzik*, which basically collects the band's (man's?) debut, *New York-London-Paris-Munich* (with two songs originally in medley form now two separate entities), and adds "M Factor", the original B- side to "PM". It doesn't sound like it was mastered from an album (at least not to me), and as far as I know, it's the only disc you can find the original 5-minute "Pop Muzik" on (and believe me, I've looked). Maybe they should stick to that era, n'est-ce pas? We now return you to the sixties, already in progress. Cheers, Jeff --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Subject: Please Be My Boyfriend Sent: 12/09/98 9:34 am Received: 12/10/98 8:33 am From: Jimmy Cresitelli, JimmXXXXXXXXom To: Spectropop List, spectrXXXXXXXXties.com There's a version of this song by the "Crystals" circulating??? I saw that picture of the lead sheet in my Betrock book, but I've never heard it! I know there's a song called "Please Be My Boyfriend" by the Shirelles... is this the one that people think might be by the Crystals? Thanks, Jamie!! I love a mystery... let's hope Barbara Alston can help us out!! --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Subject: re: Please Be My Boyfriend/Woman In Love Sent: 12/09/98 10:46 am Received: 12/10/98 8:33 am From: IAC, ianXXXXXXXXlnet.co.uk To: Spectropop List, spectrXXXXXXXXties.com Hi Jamie, Well I can't offer concrete evidence, only opinion. Personally, I don't think the track is by the Crystals - the lead vocal sounds nothing like Lala nor Barbara, and I agree that it doesn't sound like a typical Philles track - you'll notice that the session sheet doesn't actually mention the Crystals anywhere on it - I think Betrock just assumed they were the artists. I go for the Jeff Barry theory myself. Also, had it been a Crystals session, I would have expected to see the code TCY somewhere on the sheet, which as you know was the matrix code Phil used on all their sessions, and I would have expected to hear Lala on lead. I know she was still doing leads in that later period for the following reason: A friend of mine is lucky enough to own a test pressing of a late Crystals unreleased master - their version of "(I'm A) Woman In Love" - the code on that is TCY 50 - a very late number, so one of their latter Philles sessions - and it's clearly Lala on the lead. Think about that, by the way - TCY 50 - what happened to all the numbers in between that and the last official Crystals releases? Does that mean there's another 40-odd Crystals tracks still in the vaults? Ian Chapman --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Subject: I Want To Be Your Boyfriend Sent: 12/10/98 3:01 pm Received: 12/11/98 7:13 am From: Scott Bauman, ScottBaXXXXXXXX.msn.com To: Spectropop List, spectrXXXXXXXXties.com Jamie LePage wrote: >The song in question is Please Be My Boyfriend... >Also, who wrote this song? It has been suggested that it may be >written by Barry/Greenwich, and while I agree it sounds like it >could have been written by them, if memory serves Spector wasn't >very happy with Jeff & Ellie at the time due to their involvement >with Leiber and Stoller's Red Bird label. If it is Barry/Greenwich, >perhaps Phil intentionally solicited a one of their songs in >spite knowing that the recording was destined to remain incomplete. I don't believe that this song was written by Jeff & Ellie, because when PolyGram Music Publishing acquired their catalog, this song was not in it. >a little oddity: There is a song in the Mother Bertha catalog >entitled "I Want You To Be My Boyfriend." The writers: Spector/ >Barry/Greenwich. But here is the oddest thing about this. The >first date of copyright is January 1, 1990!!! Mother Bertha >controls only Phil's share of the song. I wonder if Jeff & Ellie >have this song under copyright, and if so, is the year of >copyright 1990? I have never heard of a recording of this song; to >the best of my knowledge the song has never been released >commercially. I seriously doubt Phil wrote this with Jeff & Ellie >in 1990, and somehow I Want You To Be My Boyfriend doesn't sound >like a song title for the '90's. This song IS included in the Greenwich/Barry catalog. In searching the files, I found the songwriter agreement for this song between Trio Music and Jeff Barry (Tony Powers was typed in, but crossed out with Jeff Barry's name written by hand), Ellie Greenwich and Phil Spector. The date of the agreement? February 21, 1963. I also saw that the song has generated a small amount of income, all of which I believe was from outside the U.S. I hope this helps. -- Scott --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Subject: The Supreme Things Are Changing Sent: 12/10/98 8:22 pm Received: 12/11/98 7:13 am From: Jamie LePage, le_pageXXXXXXXXties.com To: Spectropop List, spectrXXXXXXXXties.com Scott Bauman wrote: >I just got the Diana Ross & The Supremes 2-CD Anthology and was >surprised to find their recording of "Things Are Changing" on it. >(As I'm sure most of you know, this was a re-working of "Don't >Hurt My Little Sister" that was used as a public service >announcement.) According to the liner notes, this recording is not >available anywhere else. Is that still true? As if I really needed to buy yet another Supremes anthology... Picked this one up yesterday. I just had to hear this. For a long time I only knew the Blossoms version, and I was really surprised when I finally heard Jay & the Americans' version. The mix is so strange, with the vocal so far in front the glorious Spector track is all but lost. Hearing the Supremes version for the first time was very interesting. The first thing was hearing Diana's Motown voice on Spector's Gold Star/wrecking crew track. That's almost surreal! The backing track is more present than on Jay's version, which is nice, and Diana sings that little "Things are changing (B-D-E-B, B-D-E-D) melody that is also at the very end of Jay's version. That melody is not used on the Blossoms version, which leads me to wonder who came up with that line. I guess Jay must have heard Supremes version or vice-versa. Another not so surprising but rather disappointing thing about the Supremes' version is how detached Diana Ross sounds on this, as if she was handed a lyric sheet on the spot and given only one or two takes to get through it. Flo & Mary's parts aren't all that great either. In any event, Diana doesn't sound all that sympathetic to the cause if you know what I mean. Darlene Love's version, on the other hand, is absolutely convincing. It is one of her most powerful vocal permormances, similar to Long Way to be Happy. After hearing Diana Ross sing this, I must say Darlene Love's Things are Changing is absolutely the supreme version!!! Soaring, convincing delivery, and even though the rhythm track is pumped to the max on Darlene's version, her vocal is locked in perfectly and towers above Phil's powerful Wall. >I was even more surprised to find that not >only is Phil Spector listed as the producer of the track, but he >is also listed as the sole author! Do Brian Wilson's lawyers know >about this? As you know Scott, the writer/pub info printed on sleeves is not always accurate, what with ghost writers et al. The crucial point here is whether the song is claimed by both Mother Bertha (Spector ) and New Executive (Wilson). I've been trying to search BMI hyperdata on this but their site has been down the last few days. Interestingly enough, there is publisher info listed on the Jay/ Americans CD for every song EXCEPT Things Are Changing, and as I mentioned earlier, this is listed as written by Wilson/Spector. Jamie --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- End
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