__________________________________________________________ __________ __________ __________ __________ __________ S P E C T R O P O P __________ __________ __________ __________________________________________________________ Volume #0190 December 3, 1998 __________________________________________________________ Flavour that lasts and lasts through a stack of pops!Subject: Collectables label Sent: 12/02/98 1:01 pm Received: 12/03/98 7:26 am From: JM, jhorXXXXXXXXeyan.edu To: Spectropop List, spectrXXXXXXXXities.com Hello. I'm new to this list so I hope this is an appropriate topic. I am about to order music for a radio station where I work, from the Collectables label. I know much of their catalog has dodgy sound quality and oftentimes is mastered from vinyl etc. I'm wondering if there are particular titles to avoid, or especially good ones, or if I should be wary of the entire Collectables catalog. Here's what I was looking at, tentatively: Jimmy Briscoe & the Little Beavers (CD) Ebonys - Golden Philly Classics (CD) Jesse Belvin - Golden Classics (CD) The Exciters - Tell Him (CD) Patti La Belle and the BlueBells - Golden Classics (CD) Curtis Lee - Pretty Little Angel Eyes (CD) The Jelly Beans and Friends (CD) Orioles - For Collectors Only (3CD) Sheppards - Golden Classics (CD) The Best of Impact Records (Detroit) (CD) Constellation of Chicago Soul (CD) Can anyone assess the quality of the Little Peggy March CD they have? Are there any other Peggy March compilations available in the US? Also, does anyone have a phone number/e-mail address for the Relic label? Are they still active? Thanks, Jonah --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Subject: Cookies/Cinderellas, Things Are Changing Sent: 12/03/98 5:25 am Received: 12/03/98 7:26 am From: IAC, ianXXXXXXXXalnet.co.uk To: Spectropop List, spectrXXXXXXXXities.com Hi John:- Yes, I agree with the comments about the Cinderellas "Please Don't Wake Me" - it's a killer. I've always regarded it as a "sister" record to "I Never Dreamed", and of course even more so now that it's confirmed that Margaret Ross was the lead on both. Russ Titelmann certainly knew how to write 'em, didn't he? (What a great CD that would be - "The Russ Titelmann 60s Songbook", featuring the Cinderellas/Cookies, Margaret Mandolph, Honeybees, Darlene McRea and others!) Wstos: I learned about the session tape through a friend who's compiling the CD on which it will appear. He was given access to tapes from the EMI-owned vaults, which currently includes Dimension, Colpix, Roulette, Dynovoice, Jamie/Guyden and a whole lot of others. Regarding the Cinderellas, no, there's no other songs on the tape, just various stages/takes in the making of "Baby Baby" - and quite a bit of studio chat. One take has that great sax break missing. The CD is due out early in the new year - I'll post any relevant info as I get it. I know the photo you mean. There were actually several groups called the Cinderellas at one time or another. One was a late 50s outfit who recorded for Brunswick & Philips in '59/'60. Then there was the Dimension girls we all know and love. Then in '64, another set emerged on Tamara, with "It's a Wonderful Night", followed in '65 by a set on Mercury (these could have been the same girls as the Tamara group). The Mercury Cinderellas issued "Fairy Tale"/"Mr Happy Love Joy" - it's nice, worth picking up if you see it. Mercury gave these girls a little promotion, and it's they who are in the photo you're referring to - the pic appeared in an issue of the teen mag "Teen Stars Yearbook" in '65. (And just to add to the confusion, somewhere along the line were the Cindarellas on the Escapade label!) Scott: The Jay & the Americans version of "Things Are Changing" is available on their EMI Legendary Masters CD. There was one more version aimed at the Hispanic community by Julio Angel & Lucetita, which nobody has ever managed to yet find! Although Phil Spector gets credited as producer, he actually handed the project over to Jerry Riopelle in the studio. It seems Jerry cut the song with the Blossoms, which was then the "guide" version if you like, that was sent out for the other artists to overdub their own vocals. Digressing slightly, but fascinating nonetheless:- In the liner notes to the above-mentioned Jay & the Americans CD, it emerged that the original Jay (Traynor) was approached by Phil to appear on the "Christmas Gift" album. His track was to be "Little Drummer Boy", and they actually got as far as rehearsing it. But for some reason, Phil changed his mind. Ian Chapman --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Subject: Harpers Bizarre and the "Burbank" Sound Sent: 12/02/98 8:43 am Received: 12/03/98 7:26 am From: Don Richardson, dricXXXXXXXXs.com To: Spectropop List, spectrXXXXXXXXities.com Recently Van Dyke Parks was asked to comment on his early recording years, and in particular about Warner Bros. and what came to be coined "the Burbank Sound." I recall a few months ago that there was a discussion about this on the list. As far as I know, this particular piece doesn't appear anywhere else in print or on the web and I asked him if I could put it on his website. It is at: http://www.brerwabbit.com/parks/burbank.htm It is wryly humorous and perhaps because so it may be perceived as being a little self-serving, but it is a capsulated first-hand account of his early Warner Bros. years in the words of the man who lived it. Enjoy! I had the opportunity a few weeks ago to hear and visit briefly with the Kingston Trio. Yes...they are still performing after 40+ years with two of the three original members---Bob Shane and Nick Reynolds. I wouldn't have traded the experience of hearing them live, but it is time they let some younger musicians carry on the name. Bob Shane spent nearly half of the concert telling jokes (which I know is part of their history), but there were many vacant seats after intermission. Nick Reynolds' microphone and guitar were turned off nearly the entire performance. The youngest member, George Grove, seems to be carrying the majority of the music and vocal burdens. Don't get me wrong! I recognize the influence and opportunities that were made for many folk and folk-rock groups in the early '60s as a result of the Kingston Trio. The Beach Boys' Pendleton shirts emulating the Kingston Trio is a perfect example. Peter, Paul, and Mary, Roger McGuinn, John Sebastion, and even Bob Dylan owe some of their success to the inroads made by the Trio. Most of the record companies would have probably balked at giving them contracts had it not been for the "cash cow" success that the Trio gave to Capitol Records. However, it might be time for them to take a final bow and accept the accolades they rightly deserve. Would I pay to see them again? Yes, but only because of the history. --Don --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Subject: RE: Things Are Changing Sent: 12/02/98 1:12 pm Received: 12/03/98 7:26 am From: Mark Landwehr, msXXXXXXXXbbs.com To: Spectropop List, SpectrXXXXXXXXities.com > I was even more surprised to find that not > only is Phil Spector listed as the producer of the track, but he > is also listed as the sole author! Do Brian Wilson's lawyers know > about this? > Brian's lawyers can't do anything here, Scott - Phil wrote the track & produced it...From what I've heard, as the backing track for an unreleased Spector production (which one?), Phil gave it to EEOC to use on their public service announcements - Brian then picked it up as a backing track (which he slightly altered) for "Don't Hurt My Little Sister." Brian USED it, he didn't write it. Chronologically, it was Phil's, then EEOC's, then Brian's... A small-hole 7" platter was produced for the Supremes version, as well as the Blossoms & Jay and The Americans, and, reportedly, a pic sleeve came with them. Mucho $$$ for any of these (especially the Blossoms and Supremes versions). Mark (Philles Phanatic) --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Subject: supremes Sent: 12/02/98 1:17 pm Received: 12/03/98 7:26 am From: john rausch, XXXXXXXX.net To: Spectropop List, spectrXXXXXXXXities.com to Scott Bauman: what 2 disc anthology of Supremes do you have? I have a 2 disc set called Anthology and Things Are Changing is not on mine... Jonr Phil Spector`s Wall Of SoXXXXXXXXp://members.tripod.com/~rauschj/ --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- End
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