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Spectropop V#0184

  • From: The Spectropop Group
  • Date: 11/13/98

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       Volume #0184                       November 13, 1998   
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       Enjoy the complete musical definition of instruments   
    
    
    
    
    
    Subject:     too many channels?
    Sent:        11/12/98 9:37 am
    Received:    11/13/98 2:38 am
    From:        Michael Carpenter, StagefrXXXXXXXXcom.au
    To:          Spectropop List, spectrXXXXXXXXities.com
    
    
    Hi folks..
    
    MFW wrote..
    
    >When listeners have access to stereo recordings, or multi-channel
    >recordings (like Dolby Surround or DTS), you invariably run into
    >situations where the listener might wind up hearing a very
    >different mix, with radically different balances. With luck, it
    >might sound close to what the engineers and producer(s) intended
    >for you to hear, but there's much less of a risk of problems with
    >mono.
    
    This is part of a very serious on going debate among the music 
    industry types right now. With Surround sound, 05 .1 mixes etc... 
    people are very concerned about how to make sure that people are 
    going to be hearing mixes correctly. The more variables the 
    consumer has, the more chance that the 'artists vision', whether 
    it be the producer, mixing engineer, or film guy, will be diluted 
    or mis-represented. Definitely in record making, the more '
    channels' you give the consumer, the more chance there is of them 
    missing something.
    
    I heard a song i produced on a friends radio the other day, and 
    the guitars were not like i planned. I went and looked at his 
    stereo and realised his balance was all the way to the left. His 
    comment was that he must have knocked it when he moved, because he
    never fiddles with the knobs. He moved about 8 months ago.. so for 
    all that time he's been hearing half a mix of his radio and CDs.
    
    Maybe Brian and Phil and George Martin and 60s engineers were onto
    something.
    
    Catch A Wave
    MC
    
    
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    Subject:     Little Eva
    Sent:        11/12/98 9:22 pm
    Received:    11/13/98 2:38 am
    From:        Tyler Kieron, kieXXXXXXXXs.org.uk
    To:          Spectropop List, spectrXXXXXXXXities.com
    
    There has been some talk of Little Eva recently. I'm off to see 
    her play on Sunday night - have Sp'popers seen her recently, and 
    if so how was she? She's part of something called 'The Solid Gold 
    Rock'n' Roll Show' at the Palladium theatre in London, and is on 
    with folks like Brian Hyland, Bobby Vee, Chris Montez and Johnny 
    Preston!
    
    All the best, Kieron 
    
    
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    Subject:     Little Eva's Magilla
    Sent:        11/12/98 8:59 am
    Received:    11/13/98 2:38 am
    From:        wXXXXXXXX.tyenet.com
    To:          Spectropop List, spectrXXXXXXXXities.com
    
    >Will mentioned Little Eva's complete Dimension anthology, which 
    features "Makin' [It] With The Magilla". I gotta know: is this the 
    same song (or the same recording, for that matter) used in the 
    Magilla Gorilla cartoon of the same name? I remember taping that 
    song from the TV when I was a kid (using my old hand-held...this 
    was a little before the age of the VCR) and listening to it for 
    weeks afterwards. And to think it was actually released! So is 
    this a new comp, and if not, is it still readily available
    
    Hey Jeff! According to the liner notes the song was recorded as a 
    novelty spin-off of the show. It was written by Goffin/King and 
    her last ever release on Dimension written by those two. I'm not 
    sure if it was ever played on the show. Too young to know! But is 
    is availbale on the comp by Westside Records in London. Cat number
    512. 29 tracks in all! A fantastic set any way you look at it.
    Will
    
    
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    Subject:     Makin With The Magilla
    Sent:        11/12/98 9:51 am
    Received:    11/13/98 2:38 am
    From:        David Bash, BasXXXXXXXXcom
    To:          Spectropop List, spectrXXXXXXXXities.com
    
    
    << Will mentioned Little Eva's complete Dimension anthology, which 
     features "Makin' [It] With The Magilla". I gotta know: is this the
     same song (or the same recording, for that matter) used in the 
     Magilla Gorilla cartoon of the same name? I remember taping that 
     song from the TV when I was a kid (using my old hand-held...this 
     was a little before the age of the VCR) and listening to it for 
     weeks afterwards. And to think it was actually released! So is 
     this a new comp, and if not, is it still readily available?
     
     Thanx!
     
     Jeff >>
    
    Hi Jeff,
    
    It is definitely the same song as that which was featured on the 
    Magilla Gorilla cartoon, and if memory serves it's the same 
    recording as well. I believe The Cartoon Network has actually made
    a video of the cartoon segment in which the kids are doing the 
    dance. It's really cool, but they don't show it much anymore.
    
    I really loved the song when I heard it on the cartoon as a kid, 
    and I'd always wanted to know who did it but of course had no way 
    of knowing. I have a funny story as to how I found out: back in 
    1983 my friend Bruce was making tapes of songs that had hit the 
    charts in 1964, and he pulled out the record "Opportunity" by The 
    Jewels. He hadn't heard the song, and wanted to sample it for 
    inclusion on the tapes. Well, I was there when he played it and it
    turned out to be a mis-labeled copy-the song that was actually on 
    the side was "Makin With The Magilla"! I about freaked out, and 
    after I did a little digging in Osborne's price guide I found out 
    that the song was indeed by Little Eva. Thanks to Dimension 
    Records for mis-labeling that one; otherwise it would have been 
    years before I'd known.
    
    --
    Spectropop Rules!!!!!
    Take Care,
    David
    
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    Subject:     The Crystals, Brooklyn, and Da Doo Ron Ron...
    Sent:        11/12/98 1:30 pm
    Received:    11/13/98 2:39 am
    From:        Jimmy Cresitelli, JimmXXXXXXXXcom
    To:          Spectropop List, spectrXXXXXXXXities.com
    
    Hi Barbara,
    
    Thanks for your kind comments re my Rebels notes! I tell you, it's
    a great pleasure to hear the perspectives of an actual girl-group 
    member-- I hope all the Spectropoppers appreciate your presence! 
    Correction though-- I'm not so young! I mean, I mentioned that I 
    was 14 in 1970 when I first became conscious of the girl-group 
    songs... so that means I was 7 in 1963... and that means I'll be 
    43 this December 1st! : )
    
    Did I ever mention to you that I saw the Crystals at a Ralph Nader
    oldies show back in New York in 1972? I was so thrilled... it was 
    you, Mary, La La, and Dee Dee. I've got pictures I found in a 
    magazine of you all standing together, with a telephone on the 
    wall next to your head. Anyway, I was still a confused collector 
    in those days-- I thought Dee Dee was Darlene Love! You sang 
    There's No Other, Uptown, He's A Rebel, Da Doo Ron Ron, and Then 
    He Kissed Me, and you four wore long dresses with Empire waists. Bo
    Diddley and Chuck Berry were on the same bill, but I didn't care! I
    just wanted to see the Crystals!
    
    I was living in Brooklyn at that time-- Bay Ridge, right on the 
    border of Bensonhurst! It's true what you said about Bensonhurst...
    even just a few years ago, in the 80s, a young black man was 
    assaulted for being in that neighborhood, simply because he was 
    there to see about buying a used car. Girl-group pop isn't just 
    about flip hairdos and angelsongs and Shindig; it's also about 
    identity and struggle and finding a "voice" and a way to 
    communicate, whether one is a group member or a fan. It's like 
    what they say about "da doo ron ron..." it means whatever you need
    to say at the time!
    
    Thanks again, Barbara, for your contributions. 
    
    
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    Subject:     Re: Black White Relations
    Sent:        11/12/98 9:04 am
    Received:    11/13/98 2:39 am
    From:        wXXXXXXXX.tyenet.com
    To:          Spectropop List, spectrXXXXXXXXities.com
    
    It's funny Babs mentioned how well black and white performers got 
    along with each other. Come to think of it, I've never read an 
    auto-bio by a singer in those days who found it to be a problem. 
    At lot of them, Mary Wilson, Marha Reeves, commented on how the 
    audience would be segregated or strictly one race or the other, 
    but no complaints from the performers about their counterparts. 
    It's good to hear that even if the public was still harbouring 
    racist sentiments, the performers were able to look beyond colour 
    and get to know each other well. Good job Barbara! Any other 
    stories from the road?
    
    
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    Subject:     Touch The Wall Of Sound (2 CD version)
    Sent:        11/12/98 10:05 am
    Received:    11/13/98 2:39 am
    From:        David Marsteller, daveXXXXXXXXeflin.org
    To:          Spectropop List, spectrXXXXXXXXities.com
    
    Hi All!
    
    I got my copy of Touch The Wall Of Sound (the 2CD version) over the 
    weekend. It has 60 songs. Er, how many did the 3CD version have?
    Dave
    
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    Subject:     court rejects
    Sent:        11/12/98 2:32 am
    Received:    11/13/98 2:39 am
    From:        Paul MacArthur, RtfXXXXXXXX.edu
    To:          Spectropop List, spectrXXXXXXXXities.com
    
    
    >Attorneys for the record companies
    >appealed to the Supreme Court, but the court sided with the band,
    >rejecting the appeal without comment or dissent. See
    >http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2557021286-652
    
    
    
    If the court rejects the case without comment, that means they 
    decided not to hear it. It doesn't mean they side with either 
    party. It means the don't think the case merits being heard by the
    court, regardless of the current outcome.
    
    
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