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Spectropop V#0179

  • From: The Spectropop Group
  • Date: 11/05/98

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       Volume #0179                         November 6, 1998   
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    Subject: Black women don't call their men "Rebels"
    Sent: 11/05/98 2:47 am
    Received: 11/05/98 7:52 am
    From: Barbara Alston, BARBXXXXXXXXcom
    To: Spectropop List, spectrXXXXXXXXities.com
    
    
    Hi Doc Rock,
    
    Frankly, Doc, I don't think you would want to hear the comments I 
    had about that record at the time of it's release, so I'll just 
    tell you how I feel about it today -- THE SAME! :-)
    
    I never liked the record, never thought it was our style, thought 
    Darlene did a wonderful job on it, however, but it was not a 
    Crystal record per se (I felt). But, since it was pushed on us and
    we had to do it, we developed a taste for it like you develop a 
    taste for beer. It don't taste good, but you can drink it when 
    it's ice cold.
    
    To be quite honest with you, in those days, being a rebel was kind
    of upsetting to most Black people. It brought memories of discord 
    from southern rebel Whites. Now, can you imagine being Black in 
    the 60's singing about being a "Rebel?" I don't think so! Black 
    women certainly don't call their men "Rebels." God only knows what
    we might really call them, but Rebel surely ain't one of 'em. Know 
    what I mean? :-)
    
    So, the song never really touched us and was never really a part 
    of our psyche. Hope this answers your question. It's the absolute 
    truth that's for sure!
    
    Babs
    
    
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    Subject:     Ho Ho Ho!
    Sent:        11/05/98 12:43 pm
    Received:    11/06/98 1:25 am
    From:        Alan Warner, wiXXXXXXXXetcom.com
    To:          Spectropop List, SpectrXXXXXXXXities.com
    
    Some random thoughts and comments...
    First of all, Westside Records in London have just
    released a fascinating yuletide compilation titled
    "Christmas Past" with various artists drawn from 
    the various labels which EMI in Europe and Rhino
    here in the US purchased from Morris Levy.  So
    there are tracks from Roulette, End, Rama, Gee,
    Gone, Jubilee, Colpix, etc. and the artists range
    from legendary R&B vocal groups (The Orioles,
    The Cadillacs, The Marcels & The Heartbeats) to
    a wide range of solo artists including Jim Backus
    (one of three 45's he had on Jubilee in '58/'59),
    Pearl Bailey (from her Roulette days), Frankie
    Lymon and Jimmie Rodgers.  Jo Ann Campbell
    is there with Neil Sedaka & Howard Greenfield's
    HAPPY NEW YEAR BABY and Toni Wine sings
    her own composition: MY BOYFRIEND'S COMING
    HOME FOR CHRISTMAS!   Oh yeah and there's
    also Gerry Goffin & Carole King's arrangement of
    I WISH YOU A MERRY CHRISTMAS as duetted
    by Little Eva and Big Dee Irwin.  Whatta party! 
    
    Flashback to a few weeks ago when somebody asked
    if CHICO'S GIRL (Mann/Weil) by The Girls was on any
    current collection, it was on K-Tel's 4-CD box set
    called "The Brill Building Sound" (Era 5025-2).
    
    AW
    
    
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    Subject:     bad stereo mixes
    Sent:        11/05/98 6:16 am
    Received:    11/05/98 7:52 am
    From:        Big L, bXXXXXXXXetmail.com
    To:          Spectropop List, spectrXXXXXXXXities.com
    
    Just heard for the first time, the stereo mix (remix) of 
    Lesley Gore's "California Nights." Ugggghh! Turns out that 
    gorgeous falsetto hook I always loved is someone screeching
    "eee-yoooo-eee-yooooom." And Leslie really doesn't sing this song 
    well at all. You didn't notice that on the 45.
    
    I've said it before and I'll say it again: songs that were mixed 
    to be on a 45 RPM single rarely benefit from being mixed or 
    remixed in stereo. And sometimes youy hear things that weren't 
    meant to be heard, things that were mixed down in the track to add
    depth and body.
    
    A classic example is "Satisfaction." On the stereo mix, the vibes 
    dominate the left channel. Vibes? On Satisfaction? They were never
    ment to be heard, and hearing them ruins forever the concept I had 
    of this song as a power chord rock anthem.
    
    I'll never be able to listen to either song again, and enjoy them 
    the way I once did.
    
    
    ==
    Big L                   Check out my Radio Legends pages at:
    bXXXXXXXXetmail.com    http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Hills/9816
    
    
    
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    Subject:     Re: Harpers Bizarre
    Sent:        11/05/98 5:20 am
    Received:    11/05/98 7:52 am
    From:        David Bash, BasXXXXXXXXcom
    To:          Spectropop List, spectrXXXXXXXXities.com
    
    In a message dated 11/4/98 9:05:48 AM Pacific Standard Time,
    spectrXXXXXXXXities.com writes:
    
    <<  Since I haven't found any HP websites, could you (or someone) 
     perhaps write down a quick discography? Atleast the names of their
     four reissued LPs....and does any recordstores on the Net sell them
     all? I can only find the Feeling Groovy comp and Secret Life.
     
     And are they all as good as the first one? I think Secret Life has
     a bunch of great tracks but many of the songs certainly doesn't 
     stand up to the quality of Happy Land or Pocketful Of Miracles....
     too many standard late sixties acoustic guitar rawk songs.....and 
     not enough of those amazing depression-era sounding songs!
      
     Tobias>>
    
    Hi Tobias,
    
    I can't write a full discography, but Harpers Bizarre's 4 albums 
    are, in order of release:
    
    Feelin' Groovy
    Anything Goes
    The Secret Life Of Harpers Bizarre
    4
    
    My favorite of the albums is "4", but there doesn't seem to be a 
    general consensus. I think they're all very good, but "4" departs 
    a bit from the old standards and offers something a little more up
    to the times.
    
    All four of the albums were released on CD on Warners Japan are 
    are, to my knowledge, still in print. I'm sure Jamie could shed 
    better light on this.
    --
    Spectropop Rules!!!!!
    Take Care,
    David
    
    
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    Subject:     Bazaar Times
    Sent:        11/05/98 7:10 am
    Received:    11/05/98 7:52 am
    From:        CLAUDIA CUNNINGHAM, TXXXXXXXXv.net
    To:          Spectropop List, spectrXXXXXXXXities.com
    
    In speaking about HARPERS BIZARRE, the falsetto Santa Cruz
    group of the late 60's, I have a record in my collection that I 
    bought when first released which was the follow up to the "59th 
    Street Bridge Song" (a/k/a "Feelin' Groovy"). It is a send-up of 
    the old standard, "Chatanooga Choo Choo". A delight for the ears! 
    It's hard to sit still when you listen to it...an up-tempo, 
    happy-go-lucky rendition. Highly recommended - if you can find it.
    
    And, for Ms. Alston: Just who was Bob B. Soxx and the Bluejeans? 
    Do I detect Darlene Love on lead vocals? Claudia
    
    
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    Subject:     Dee Dee Sharp 45
    Sent:        11/05/98 12:16 pm
    Received:    11/06/98 1:25 am
    From:        james fisher, JHFXXXXXXXXv.net
    To:          Spectropop List, spectrXXXXXXXXities.com
    
    Someone recently gave me a Dee Dee Sharp 45--"He's no ordinary 
    guy"/"never pick a pretty boy", it's on Cameo C329 A (&B) and is 
    still in the original picture slip cover--it's got Dee Dee 
    striking a demure pose and looking way cute in a white lace 
    outfit. I'm not sure if this one is rare or not but if's there's 
    any Dee Dee fanatics on spectropop then get in touch and I'll swap
    this for something of equal value (no money involved) The record 
    itself looks to be in pretty good shape though I don't have a 
    working T/T to play it and check. If anyone needs this to help 
    their collection then give me a holler.
    
    BTW..The L.A. Times had a nice piece on Darlene Love this week---
    think it was Monday in their "Life" section. You can get it on 
    their web site but if not then let me know and I'll fax you a copy.
    
    Jim 
    
    <http://www.latimes.com/sbin/iawrapper?NS-search-set=/36415/
    
    aaaa000Wu415282&NS-doc-offset=0&NS-adv-search=0&>
    
    [ADMIN NOTE: If you have trouble with this link, make sure to 
    delete the carriage return after 36415/. This URL links directly 
    to the news piece.]
    
    
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    Subject:     Kieron and Lesley and Francoise
    Sent:        11/05/98 3:59 am
    Received:    11/05/98 7:52 am
    From:        Jimmy Cresitelli, JimmXXXXXXXXcom
    To:          Spectropop List, spectrXXXXXXXXities.com
    
    
    Hi! Hmmm... didn't think anyone had ever heard of Sheila besides 
    me and a friend in New York. Good to know! But yeah, I've heard 
    her described as "the French Lesley Gore," though, like you, I 
    don't totally agree. There's a great number she does called 
    "Impossible N'est Pas Francais" [sp?] that's really good, and a few
    others. Her later releases were more mature, and not so girly. Re 
    Francoise Hardy: I read that she used to basically stand on stage 
    and play her guitar, wearing a black raincoat, and not smiling. 
    Interesting! 
    
    Thanks,
    Jimmy
    
    
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    Subject:     Re: Oh Why - Teddy Bears
    Sent:        11/05/98 2:27 am
    Received:    11/05/98 7:52 am
    From:        R Teyes, RTXXXXXXXXcom
    To:          Spectropop List, spectrXXXXXXXXities.com
    
    Hi Mark,
    
    You are probably absolutely correct!
    
    Since I am as crazy as you Spectorwise, I took the 45 to a buddy 
    of mine who engineers at the old Hit Factory studio in Manhattan..
    he listened to it, recorded it again in superfast (30ips) and we 
    both listened to it..points he (Jerry) made me aware of:
    
    -song recorded with minmal hiss but too much "saturation of echo" 
    in other words, too much of echo in some parts..
    
    -complete drum set not used in this recording; snare used, 
    brushing of crash audible-high hat overused..bass drum not heard
    
    -bass sounds too elementary..played with minimal imagination and 
    as if reading from a score..
    
    -guitar and piano are heard clearly and sound excellent
    
    -Jerry also let me hear Phil out of tune in some sections (this 
    was CLEAR) 
    
    -female voice too close to microphone thereby creating 
    distortion at times 
    
    -Finally, Jerry says drum is not tuned..at end
    of song, after the ritardado, the downbeat clearly shows that..
    
    all in all, we must not forget phil was starting to produce...it 
    really takes another professional to pick these points out..I love
    that because I am a musician myself and learn something new every 
    day..
    
    Thanks, Mark, nonetheless..let's evaluate more songs!!!
    
    Robert the Ronette Hound
    
    
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    Subject:     Michael Brown & Left Banke
    Sent:        11/6/98 12:31 pm
    Received:    11/6/98 12:38 am
    From:        Jamie LePage, le_pageXXXXXXXXities.com
    To:          Spectropop List, spectrXXXXXXXXities.com
    
    Scott Bauman, ScottBaXXXXXXXXl.msn.com wrote:
    
    >Well, before PolyGram disappears off the face of the earth, I'm 
    >trying to figure out what to buy with my PolyGram employee 
    >discount.
    
    I hardly think it is worth mentioning because you undoubtedly 
    already have this CD in your collection, but just in case you (or 
    anyone on this list) doesn't have this absolutely essential 
    release, by all means get There's Gonna Be A Storm by the Left 
    Banke. Besides containing both Left Banke albums, the CD has 
    virtually every recording the band made for Smash. Remastering 
    by Bill Inglot, and the liner notes by Andrew Sandoval are concise
    and informative. An absolute must-have. Mercury 848 095-2
    --
    le_pageXXXXXXXXities.com
    RodeoDrive/5030
    
    
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