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Spectropop V#0162

  • From: The Spectropop Group
  • Date: 10/07/98

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       Volume #0162                       October 9, 1998   
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               New Improved Full Dimensional Stereo         
    
    
    
    
    
    
    Subject:     Favorite Hook... A Fine, Fine, SUPERfine boy!
    Sent:        10/07/98 7:10 am
    Received:    10/07/98 7:35 am
    From:        Jimmy Cresitelli, JimmyXXXX@XXXom
    
    
    
    The one that jumped to mind is probably not really a hook-- my 
    musical terminology lacks polish-- but I LOVE when the orchestra 
    does that little "skip" after every few bars during Darlene Love's
    "A Fine, Fine Boy." It's churning away in rhythm, and then suddenly
    all the instruments seem to stop/jump... am I making sense?
    That song, by the way, is probably one of Phil's most underrated...
    you never hear it discussed, but I'd have to place it in my Top 
    10. Darlene just wails away... excellent! And the song, in my 
    opinion, has the best spoken break EVER!
    
    
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    Subject:     Red Bird
    Sent:        10/08/98 12:09 pm
    Received:    10/09/98 8:03 am
    From:        Frank Youngwerth, FMXXXX@XXXom
    
    
    <<the rare Shangri-Las tracks like Dressed In Black are fantastic.>>
    
    I've always really liked Shadow Morton's demo, included in the 
    Charly set as well. It's eerie in its own way. What a set!!
    
    
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    Subject:     Red-Bird CD/the Shangs/Lesley Gore
    Sent:        10/09/98 7:16 am
    Received:    10/09/98 8:03 am
    From:        Mark Landwehr, mslXXXX@XXXbs.com
    To:          Spectropop List, SpectroXXXX@XXXties.com
    
    Just received the Taragon Red-Bird/Blue Cat CD...Wow!!! 
    UNBELIEVABLE!! I was a little annoyed at first that some of the 
    highs had been rolled off these cuts, eliminating the "rough edge"
    sound and some high-end percussion, but that did not deter me from 
    total enjoyment. The cuts were all very clean and, without a doubt,
    original! A few comments on the Shangri-Las cuts:
    
    "Leader of the Pack" has the missing second-verse line, as you all
    have stated. I didn't care for the vocals being all in one channel 
    (the Mercury LP has them split), but the motorcycle sfx going from
    one channel to another was super! And, the fade-out continues for a
    second or two after the screeching-tire sfx subsides.
    
    "Remember (Walkin' in the Sand)" has a super-long, 
    never-before-heard ending. Mary's voice hasn't got the usual echo 
    on it, but, hey, gang...she don't need no stinking echo!!!
    
    "I Can Never Go Home Anymore" just about brought me to tears. A 
    BONUS - Before the last verse (as the stringed bridge ends), the 
    "narrator" says, "Listen...I'm not finished." NEVER have heard that
    on any single, LP, etc!!! Mary's voice in the bridge ("No, I can 
    neverrrr, go home anymorrre") is not doubled, but its impact 
    remains...Amazing pipes!!
    
    "Give Him a Great Big Kiss" contains another unheard-of piece in 
    the mix...The background chant "Tell me more, tell me more" 
    continues throughout the singing of the second verse, not just 
    between Mary's phrases - The concurrent singing of two different 
    lyrics at the same time is not very good professionally, but, from
    an historical point, I love it! A few of the extraneous background 
    vocals heard on earlier mixes are not on this one, but so what?
    
    I love this CD!! If anyone who is into this genre hasn't got this 
    one yet (I'm talkin' to you, John boy), get it NOW!!!...It will 
    put all vinyl versions to shame! And, thanks to all for turning me
    on to it...
    
    Getting that CD has provoked me to put together a little web page 
    (basically for my own amusement) listing all of the Red-Bird 
    singles/LPs - I've taken info from several different sources to 
    compile this discography, and if anyone can offer any corrections/
    additions, etc., I would appreciate it...See http://
    www.toltbbs.com/~msland/RBindex.htm for the Red-Bird Discography.
    
    And, let's not forget a pretty good GG song by the Shangs from 
    their pre-Red Bird days..."Wishing Well' on Spokane (and later 
    Scepter) - A little rough around the edges, but better than much 
    of their RB stuff, and it even has a spoken-word intro (a la 
    "Leader", "Give Him a Great Big Kiss" etc.). I love Mary Weiss' 
    voice (if you hadn't already figured that out).
    
    Speaking of "Leader" & stereo, has anyone found a stereo copy of 
    Lesley Gore's "Look of Love" in the "single-mix" form? The cut on 
    her LPs is different, the background singers starting on a low 
    note after the "ba-boom, ba-boom" drum intro instead of on a high 
    note. This and "Maybe I Know" are my favorites from her...
    
    Mark (Philles Phanatic)
    The Phil Spector & Philles Record Label 
    GalleriXXXX@XXX://www.toltbbs.com/~msland/Spector/
    
    
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    Subject:     spector covers
    Sent:        10/08/98 4:18 am
    Received:    10/08/98 7:37 am
    From:        john rausch, jXXXX@XXXnet
    
    
    another great spector cover i came across is marianne faithful 
    doing the ronettes "is this what i get for loving you"
    
    
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    Subject:     spector covers
    Sent:        10/08/98 4:16 am
    Received:    10/08/98 7:37 am
    From:        john rausch, jXXXX@XXXnet
    
    
    richard said:
    >As a former member of The Rhondels, I must comment that, in fact,
    >"Do I Love You" ain't all that good. The arrangement was done by
    >Bill Deal and "Fat" Ammon Tharp, the founding fathers of the group.
    
    ...i think it is a great cover,IMHO.if i didnt know who it was i 
    would almost swear it sounds like cher singing.
    
    
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    Subject:     Strangeloves
    Sent:        10/07/98 2:29 pm
    Received:    10/07/98 11:08 pm
    From:        Javed Jafri, javedjaXXXX@XXXt.ca
    
    
    john rausch, jXXXX@XXXnet wrote:
    
    >the strangeloves are one of my "guilty pleasurers"...aside from 
    >the wall of sound and ggs etc... the sonic boom of the 
    >strangeloves 45s on bang records are cool ,very much a tip "o" the
    >hat to phil`s "wall'...with less theatrics...but very much "in your
    >face" singles!
    
    I get a kick out of the fact that the Strangeloves pulled one of 
    the best publicity stunts ever. They claimed that they were 
    actually sheep farmers from Australia who just happened to have 
    hit it big in music. In fact, they had already had some success in
    their work with the Angels. Incidentally, they even recorded a 45 
    under the name The Sheep and that song "Hide and Seek" is as good 
    as any of the Strangelove hits.
    
    Javed
    
    
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    Subject:     Only In America
    Sent:        10/07/98 1:40 pm
    Received:    10/07/98 11:08 pm
    From:        Javed Jafri, javedjaXXXX@XXXt.ca
    
    
    >From:        Jamie LePage, le_page_XXXX@XXXties.com
    >Jay & the Americans are hard for me to talk about, because 
    >although I love their records and particularly the signature 
    >Leiber/Stoller touches, Jay's voice grates on my ears. He makes 
    >everything sound so damned MOR. His "cover" of Things are Changing
    >is embarrassing (even though it uses the original track)! I would 
    >love to be convinced otherwise, so anyone with a different opinion,
    >please post!
    
    Don't forget Jamie that there were actually two Jays in Jay & the
    Americans but neither of them was really named Jay. The first Jay
    sang on their breakthrough hit "She Cried" and then Jay Black took
    over.
    
    Javed
    
    
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    Subject:     vcr alert
    Sent:        10/08/98 9:06 am
    Received:    10/09/98 8:03 am
    From:        john rausch, jXXXX@XXXnet
    
    
    hi everyone,
    just heard that darlene love is supposed to be on politically 
    incorrect on the 13th
    jonr
    Presenting the Fabulous 
    Ronettes http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Studio/2469/
    
    
    
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    Subject:     politically incorrect love
    Sent:        10/08/98 12:27 am
    Received:    10/08/98 7:37 am
    From:        Doc Rock, docroXXXX@XXXcom
    
    
    Founf on the net:
    
    
    Posted by gopher on October 07, 1998 at 02:57:12:
    
    darlene love is scheduled to appear on the abc-tv
    show, "politically incorrect" october 13th.
    
         gopherspace
    
    
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    *** Presley sighting! Video shows earliest performance
    
    LOS ANGELES (Reuters) - Hold the front page. There has been a new 
    sighting of Elvis Presley. This time it is not on Mars or the moon
    or a diner in Poughkeepsie. It is on the first known film of the 
    singer performing onstage. Shot Aug. 7, 1955, by Jim and Lois 
    Robertson of Houston at Magnolia Gardens, a recreational area 
    outside the city that often featured young, unknown performers, 
    the film shows a 20-year-old Presley performing before about 25 
    people. Now, 21 years after his death, the clip has been 
    transferred to videotape, and copies are being released to stores 
    nationwide Oct. 20 by Tapeworm Video Distributors Inc. 
    
    
    
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