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Spectropop V#0140

  • From: The Spectropop Group
  • Date: 09/07/98

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       Volume #0140                     September 7, 1998   
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                       The Dealers Choice                   
    
    
    
    
    
    
    Subject:     BRENDA!!! CONNIE!!!!
    Sent:        09/06/98 10:43 am
    Received:    09/07/98 1:05 am
    From:        CLAUDIA CUNNINGHAM, TPXXXX@XXX.net
    To:          Spectropop List, spectroXXXX@XXXties.com
    
    OK, will SOMEONE tell me why no one plays Brenda Lee? No one talks
    about her and the only record of hers I ever hear is an occasional 
    "I Want to Be Wanted."
    
    Connie Francis was just as big, if not bigger.
    
    Does anyone realize the chain of smash records Brenda had? Sweet 
    Nothin's/I'm Sorry/That's All You Gotta Do/Emotions/You Can Depend
    On Me/Dum Dum/ Fool No. 1/Break it to me Gently/All Alone Am I/My 
    Whole World Is Falling Down/Losing You/I Wonder/As Usual/Coming On
    Strong/Truly Truly True/,Rockin' Around the Christmas Tree....
    etc. etc.
    
    Connie was HUGE! You all remember Who's Sorry Now/Stupid Cupid/My 
    Happiness/Lipstick on Your Collar/Frankie/Among My
    Souvenirs/Mama/Teddy/Everybody's Somebody's Fool/Jealous of You/
    My Heart has a mind of its own/Many Tears Ago/Where the Boys Are/
    I'll Follow the Boys/When the Boys Meet the girls/Breakin in a 
    Brand New Broken Heart/Together/When the Boy in Your Arms is the 
    boy in your Heart/Baby's First CHRISTMAS/Don't Break the Heart 
    That Loves You/Second Hand Love/Vacation/I'm Gonna BeWarm This 
    Winter/If My Pillow Could Talk/Be Anything.....etc. etc. They 
    were the FIRST original first ladies of Top 40.
    
    Connie tours in second rate clubs now and Brenda was forced to go 
    country. Shame on the heads of the record studios. Real talent 
    they throw away and they promote crap like Pearl Jam. Makes you 
    wanna cry, doesn't it? Here is a Connie trivia question:  Connie's
    agent had a little boy who grew up to be a famed lawyer. The agent 
    was George Scheck.....yup, Barry Scheck is his son!!
    
    
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    Subject:     Dionne
    Sent:        09/06/98 11:51 am
    Received:    09/07/98 1:05 am
    From:        Ron Bierma, ELRONXXXX@XXXom
    To:          Spectropop List, spectroXXXX@XXXties.com
    
    
    In a message dated 9/5/98 8:25:50 PM, you wrote:
    
    <>
    
    This is a highly unusual arrangement for a black, female artist to 
    have with a writer, isn't it? Does anyone know how this came about?
    
    Also, a friend of mine described a situation that alienated about 
    half of Dionne's fan base; her gay fans. I don't really remember 
    the story he gave me, but I think it had to do with royalties from
    That's What Friends Are For, which were, if I'm not mistaken, 
    sopposed to go to an Aids organization. Can anyone dish the dirt 
    here, and tell the tale? Anyone know?
                                      RB
    
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    Subject:     Re: philles bootlegs
    Sent:        09/06/98 10:36 am
    Received:    09/07/98 1:05 am
    From:        Jamie LePage, le_page_XXXX@XXXties.com
    To:          Spectropop List, spectroXXXX@XXXties.com
    
    john rausch wrote:
    
    >here is a scan of a philles label bootleg on colored vinyl
    >just a click away!
    >http://members.tripod.com/~rauschj/paradiseboot.JPG
    
    >from jonr
    
    Hey John, thanks for the jpeg. I had never seen anything like this
    before. How bizarre! Anders and Poncia didn't write Paradise, 
    neither is it co-published by Hill and Range! Very strange indeed.
    
    What's on the B-side?
    
    When were these issued? Also, what is the story behind them? I find 
    it hard to believe there would be sufficient market demand for 
    counterfeit Philles singles to make it a worthwhile venture. I 
    am really very curious about this!
    
    I mentioned compiling a Spector "officially unissued" list. 
    Here's the first disc of this sort I bought:
    
    Philles 111 (Let's Dance) The Screw-Part 1 b/w (Let's Dance) The 
    Screw-Part 2
    
    It's on black vinyl with the blue & black philles label. The 
    engraving in the runoff groove is PTCY11 & PTCY12. Unbelievably, 
    when this pressing was mastered from an original copy, the needle 
    jumped at one point. That mistake was mastered into the stamper 
    and is on all copies! They could have either cleaned the record or 
    done an edit or something...Just a guess, but by the looks of it, 
    the disc appears to have been manufactured in the mid 70's. Anyway, 
    it's a neat record, and the only boot 45 I had ever heard of by 
    Spector until now.
    --
    le_page_XXXX@XXXties.com
    RodeoDrive/5030
    
    
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    Subject:     Re: Spectropop V#0139
    Sent:        09/07/98 12:36 am
    Received:    09/07/98 1:05 am
    From:        R Teyes, RTeXXXX@XXXom
    To:          Spectropop List, spectroXXXX@XXXties.com
    
    For Mark and John Rausch:
    
    Another group of people I just discovered may be contributing to 
    the leak of Philles stuff:
    These are people who dealt with Phil directly or indirectly:
    
    Distributor Harry Finfer: Harry did this task when Phil and Lester
    formed Philles. Harry stayed with Philles until Danny Davis came 
    along. Harry went to MGM Records.
    
    Manager Helen Noga: she managed Johnny Mathis and financed the 
    recording session of "There's No other Like My Baby" after Phil and
    Lester persuaded her. Only after Phil re-arranged the song did he 
    give himself credit for the same along with Larry Bates. This was 
    Philles rcds. first release and he and Lester badly needed the 
    $2,700 that Noga risked. Helen in return asked for inclusion in 
    the Philles company and of course, was refused. Case in point: A&R
    and Mirasound had close ties to Helen and Columbia Records. Access 
    to Phil's stuff was readily available.
    
    Billy Storm of the Alley cats had Phil's attention for awhile 
    until Phil became bored. When Phil axed Storm, Storm fueled Phil's
    anger by taking with him all the musical arrangements for Puddin n 
    tain and a few other compositions. Phil had naively given Storm 
    access to a lot of his material.
    
    These and other people, by my own personal recollection and just 
    by "being there" at the time make me wary of the new stuff out 
    there. I recall Phil "losing it" and become enamored like a 
    teenager when Ronnie Bennett was present in the studios here in 
    NYC. By way of Tony Orlando and Jeff Barry, I was able to sneak 
    into the studios until Phil got "used" to me and started asking me
    to get coffee and sandwiches for the singers and musicians. He 
    tipped me well, too, and I recall him at one point going to the 
    back of the studio (and I though he was going to ask me to leave) 
    and asking me, "how is that song? would you ask your parents to 
    buy you that record?" He wouldn't wait for my answer and just walk
    back to the control booth.
    
    Robert the Ronette Hound
    (rteXXXX@XXXom)
    
    
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    Subject:     straggler's top 10 gg's (in no particular order)
    Sent:        09/06/98 3:14 pm
    Received:    09/07/98 1:05 am
    From:        Frank Youngwerth, FMXXXX@XXXom
    To:          Spectropop List, spectroXXXX@XXXties.com
    
    "Big Bad World" Cathy Saint
    "Strange I Know" Marvelettes
    "Everybody Gets to Go to the Moon" Three Degrees
    "The One You Can't Have" Honeys
    "Home of the Brave" Bonnie & the Treasures
    "I Can't Stay Mad at You" Skeeter Davis
    "He Couldn't Care Less" Peggy March
    "My One and Only Jimmy Boy" Girlfriends
    "Past Present & Future" Shangri-Las
    "Wounded" Cookies
    (plus dozens of others)
    
    
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    Subject:     Verdelle & Shirley
    Sent:        09/06/98 11:00 pm
    Received:    09/07/98 1:05 am
    From:        Mark Landwehr, mslXXXX@XXXbs.com
    To:          Spectropop List, SpectroXXXX@XXXties.com
    
    Ok, gang - Here's a toughie (maybe)...On Verdelle's song "Tar and 
    Cement" (Capitol 5632) there is a sub-title "Il Ragazzo Della Via 
    Gluck" - Looks Italian to me...Can anybody translate it? Great 
    song!!!
    
    >Another great recording (one I do still
    >have on a 45 and would like to find on CD) is BIG TOWN BOY by 
    >Shirley Matthews and the Big Town Girls. Very reminiscent of the 
    >Crystals HE'S SURE THE BOY I LOVE. There's a Canadian AM radio 
    >station, CSCO, that plays it now and then along with a great many 
    >NOT top 40 oldies of all time. Love that station!!!
    >
    What a great oldies radio station!!! I bet 95% of the clowns 
    running oldies stations in the US haven't a clue who she is - 
    After all, it seems the record never made the Pop charts (!)
    
    Mark (Philles Phanatic)
    
    The Phil Spector Record Gallery:
    http://www.toltbbs.com/~msland/Spector/
    
    
    
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    Subject:     connie francis
    Sent:        09/07/98 2:43 am
    Received:    09/07/98 2:21 am
    From:        john rausch, jXXXX@XXXnet
    To:          Spectropop List, spectroXXXX@XXXties.com
    
    jack wrote :
    >I hope someone will be able to help guide me regarding that single
    >disc Conniegreatest hits disc vs. that 2-disc "Readers Digest"
    >compilation.
    
    
    ....hi jack, the connie cd i have is a single disc "very best of" 
    it has all the biggies you`d expect for the average connie fan. 
    mono/stereo ratio is 50/50  . 21 cuts, sound is very good. its on 
    polydor label. if you are an avid connie fan you might want the 
    2 disc set, dont know anything about that one tho...also i would 
    like to mention that there is a killer girl group sounding connie 
    francis tune on the girl group anthology "growin up too fast" written 
    by barry/greenwich  "dont ever leave me" and sounds exactly how the 
    raindrops would have done it. and another cut "my best friend barbara" 
    although not as rockin as the first one its better than alot of the 
    schlock she is responsible for.
    hope this has been of help jack.
    jonr
    PRESENTING THE FABULOUS RONETTES
    http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Studio/2469/
    
    
    
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    Subject:     pj proby
    Sent:        09/07/98 2:50 am
    Received:    09/07/98 2:21 am
    From:        john rausch, jXXXX@XXXnet
    To:          Spectropop List, spectroXXXX@XXXties.com
    
    james wrote
    "Hold Me" P.J.Proby, from
    1964. It's a real rocker! Anyone else remember this guy?"
    
    ...hi james,i have been searching for a song by pj proby for years,the
    only song i ever heard from him "nikey hokey" i have this version by
    ellie greenwich but have never found the original. thats interesting
    about the split pants thing. thanks for reminding me about him.
    jonr
    
    
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    Subject:     GGs for sale
    Sent:        09/07/98 3:02 am
    Received:    09/07/98 2:21 am
    From:        john rausch, jXXXX@XXXnet
    To:          Spectropop List, spectroXXXX@XXXties.com
    
    hi fellow gg fans
    i have a few gg cds for sale :
    here come the girls vol 2
    this one has 8 tracks each by:
    julie grant
    billie davis
    helen shapiro
    HERE COME THE GIRLS  vol 4:
    23 tracks: various artists
    this next cd is from japan "dreamboy"
    20 cuts,various artists.
    if anyone is interested, please email me directly.  jXXXX@XXXnet  for
    price and track listings. thanks
    jonr
    
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