_______________________________________________________ _ ___ ____ ____ ____| |_ ____ ___ ____ ___ ____ /___) _ \ / _ ) ___) _) / ___) _ \| _ \ / _ \| _ \ |___ | | | ( (/ ( (___| |__| | | |_| | | | | |_| | | | | (___/| ||_/ \____)____)\___)_| \___/| ||_/ \___/| ||_/ |_| |_| |_| Volume #0107 June 26, 1998 See label for correct playing order: _______________________________________________________Subject: "The Letter" by the Box Tops Sent: 06/25/98 3:59 pm Received: 06/25/98 11:54 pm From: Scott Bauman, ScottBauXXXX@XXX.msn.com To: Spectropop List, spectroXXXX@XXXties.com Javed Jafri, javedjaXXXX@XXXt.ca wrote: >I think the hit version of "The Letter" by the Box Tops was the >first one to be released. After that came the versions by the >Arbors and of course Joe Cocker. It's funny that you should >mention a different version by the Box Tops though. I recall >hearing a version on the oldies stations in the early 80's and it >sounded like a re-recording but it was announced as by the Box >Tops. I think I heard this version several times. It may have been >recorded when Alex Chilton got back together with the Box Tops for >the oldies package tours in the 80's. Perhaps it was an >alternate-take from the 60's that somehow made it's way to the >oldies stations. I'm sure someone will shed some light on this >unless we're both losing our minds Doc. You're not losing your mind. Several years ago, I was representing the major record companies in litigation against companies that were selling "oldies" albums without securing rights to the master recordings. Usually, these companies either claimed rights to the master recordings through some bogus chain of title or claimed that the recordings on their albums were re-recordings of the original hits. As part of my job, I listened to many of these albums to determine whether the recordings were originals or re-recordings. Almost always, the alleged re-recordings were, in fact, the original recordings. However, the version of "The Letter " on one of these albums CLEARLY was a re-recording. The voice was most certainly Alex Chilton, but it sounded like the Alex Chilton from his "High Priest" album days and not the gruff blue-eyed soul days of the Box Tops. Perhaps this is the version that you heard on the radio. -- Scott ---------------[ archived by Spectropop ]--------------- Subject: A Thousand Dees, & WhutsaRonette Sent: 06/25/98 6:47 pm Received: 06/25/98 11:54 pm From: Jack Madani, Jack_MadXXXX@XXX12.nj.us To: Spectropop List, spectroXXXX@XXXties.com I'm sorry that I can't contribute anything to the discussion of Dee Dee Sharpe, but I thought that I would toss in a tidbit about a different Dee, Big Dee Walker. I like her Spector-Zip-A-Dee-Doo- Dah-knockoff, Swinging On A Star. Then, just recently I bought this disc of a mid-eighties British chantoosie named Dee Walker ("Jump Back!" Tangerine Records TangCD6); the packaging of the disc makes it look like a 60's-swingin'-groovy-London sorta thing, but in fact the sound is very much contemporary mid-eighties-revisionist girlgroup; the best description I can think of is to say that it's like a minor league version of the stuff that Tracey Ullman was doing, particularly Tracey's cover of Breakaway. Was that clear enough? Should I put in more hyphens? Hoo boy, I'm having a tough time this morning.... Anyway......There is ONE song on this Dee Walker disc that gets it exactly right: A cover of Swinging On A Star, obviously done because of the Dee/Dee connection. >That was Kathy Young with The Innocents' #3 hit from October of >1960, on Indigo 108. To me, the song drives me crazy because her >voice is so off-pitch, but hey -- she was only 15 when she sang it, >so she can be forgiven. :-) OTOH, that never seemed to bother Brenda Lee. Say, if you're a fan of that primitive girlgroup singing (and in fact I'm sorta ambivalent about that empty-recording-studio sound, which I think might be characterized as earliest-stage Spector), there's the compilation on Ace "Early Girls Vol.1" (CDCHD 608). It includes Kathy Young's 1961 recording of The Great Pretender ( Indigo 117). I originally got this disc for Robin Ward's Wonderful Summer, which I have since found on some other discs--thanks to some members of this list--but I still keep this disc for songs like Betty Everett's original version of You're No Good, the Exciters' original Do-Wah-Diddy, Dodie Stevens' Pink Shoe Laces ( man o man!), the Murmaids' Popsicles & Icicles, and Reparata's Whenever A Teenager Cries. The stuff that leaves me cold is stuff like Toni Fisher's West of the Wall (Berlin Wall, that is; just how big is the subgenre of Cold War GirlGroup Records?), Bonnie Guitar's Dark Moon, and Janie Grant's Triangle. This disc also includes the Blossoms' "Son-In-Law," an answer record to Ernie K. Doe's "Mother-In-Law." >Phil should convey to the Ronettes their just due as they >were an integral part of the Phil Spector sound [snip] >yes, it's only a song but it made #1 with RONNIE'S voice...NOT >Phil's...Veronica is asking for what's hers and the Ronettes Having read Ronnie's autobiography, I have to wonder what the contracts will say about the payment of moneys, because from Ronnie's own admission, Nedra and Estelle are actually singing on a verrrrry few of the "Ronettes" records. Certainly Ronnie herself should have a very strong case at least on the face of it, but I wonder about the the other two. Would that mean that the amount of the settlement would have to be cut by two-thirds? ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Jack Madani - Princeton Day School, The Great Road, Princeton, NJ 08540 Jack_MadXXXX@XXX12.nj.us "It is when the gods hate a man with uncommon abhorrence that they drive him into the profession of a schoolmaster." --Seneca, 64 A.D. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------[ archived by Spectropop ]--------------- Subject: Dee Dee's Gospel Sent: 06/25/98 4:29 am Received: 06/25/98 8:18 am From: David Feldman, feldXXXX@XXXderables.com To: Spectropop List, spectroXXXX@XXXties.com John Mahoney said: > If you mean "Songs Of Faith" (Cameo C-1022) from 1962, I was able > to track down some LPs at Les Harris' web site at: > http://www.stic.net/users/lharris/ > John, I don't think this is the one. As I recollect, Dee Dee married Kenny Gamble (or was it Leon Huff?) and the album I'm referring to might have been credited as Dee Dee Sharp Gamble or Dee Dee Gamble, although I don't think so. Somewhere, I have a review of the album. I'll try to find it. Dave Feldman CD of the Month: "Imagination" (Brian Wilson) Word of the Week: tenderloin Movie of the Month: Bulworth Best Time Killer of the 90's: Filling out the UPDATED gender survey at "http://www.imponderables.com" ---------------[ archived by Spectropop ]--------------- Subject: Re: The Letter Sent: 06/25/98 4:32 am Received: 06/25/98 8:18 am From: Big L, biXXXX@XXXtmail.com To: Spectropop List, spectroXXXX@XXXties.com >It's funny that you should >mention a different version by the Box Tops though. I recall >hearing a version on the oldies stations in the early 80's and it >sounded like a re-recording but it was announced as by the Box >Tops. Javed, I have an "alternate" version on one of those greatest hits tapes that sounds like an earlier mix than the hit version. The organ is a bit different, also the lead vocal. Could that be the one in question? Big L Check out my Radio Legends pages at: biXXXX@XXXtmail.com http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Hills/9816 ---------------[ archived by Spectropop ]--------------- Subject: Requesting Some Information Re: Gary Usher Sent: 06/25/98 5:55 pm Received: 06/25/98 11:54 pm From: Brad Elliott, surfXXXX@XXXnline.net To: Spectropop Mailing List, spectroXXXX@XXXties.com Originally, I sent this response directly to Scott Bauman, but at his request I've agreed to post it to the list as well. Apparently , several people are interested in what I had to say. Anyway, I wrote: Scott, That was quite an interesting list of songs you posted to the Spectropop List. I'll do my best to help you. These I can nail down definitely for you: > Beach Party (Usher/Christian) >From the movie of the same name. Recorded by Annette on ANNETTE'S BEACH PARTY (1964) and by Frankie Avalon on MUSCLE BEACH PARTY AND OTHER MOVIE SONGS (1964). > Bikini Drag (Christian/Usher) >From the movie "Bikini Beach." Performed in the movie by The Pyramids, but never released on record. > Cycle Set (Christian/Usher) >From the movie "Beach Blanket Bingo." Performed in the movie by The Hondells (whose version was never put on record) -- recorded by Donna Loren on BEACH BLANKET BINGO (1965). > Everybody's Runnin Wild (Christian/Brian Wilson/Usher) Aka "Runnin' Wild," from the movie "Muscle Beach Party." Recorded by Annette on MUSCLE BEACH PARTY (1964), by Frankie Avalon on MUSCLE BEACH PARTY AND OTHER MOVIE SONGS (1964) and by The Super Stocks on SURF ROUTE 101 (1964). > The Greaser (Christian/Usher) I think this is a typo in Polygram's records. An Usher/Christian song, "The Gasser," is from the movie "Ski Party," where it is performed by The Hondells (whose version was never put on record). > Muscle Beach Party (Christian/Usher/Wilson) >From the movie of the same name. Recorded by Annette on MUSCLE BEACH PARTY (1964) and by Frankie Avalon on MUSCLE BEACH PARTY AND OTHER MOVIE SONGS (1964). > Muscle Bustle (Christian/Wilson/Usher) >From the movie "Muscle Beach Party." Recorded by Annette on MUSCLE BEACH PARTY (1964) and by Donna Loren on 45. > My First Love (Christian/Usher/Wilson) >From the movie "Muscle Beach Party." Recorded The Super Stocks on MY FIRST LOVE (1964). > Record Run (Christian/Usher) >From the movie "Bikini Beach." Performed in the movie by The Pyramids, but never released on record. > Secret Surfin Spot (Christian/Usher) >From the movie "Beach Party." Recorded by Annette on ANNETTE'S BEACH PARTY (1964). > Ski Party (Usher) This likely is the same song as the next listing; it was not uncommon for Usher to copyright a song two or three times with slightly different writer credits. > Ski Party (Usher/Christian) >From the movie of the same name. Performed in the movie by Frankie Avalon and by The Hondells, but never released on record. > Surfer's Holiday (Christian/Usher/Wilson) >From the movie "Muscle Beach Party." Recorded by Annette on MUSCLE BEACH PARTY (1964) and by Frankie Avalon on MUSCLE BEACH PARTY AND OTHER MOVIE SONGS (1964). > Surfin Woodie (Christian/Wilson/Usher) >From the movie "Muscle Beach Party." Performed in the movie as an acappella cast singalong. Never released on record. These two titles are odd cases: > Beach Blanket Bingo (Usher/Roger Christian) > Bikini Beach (Usher/Christian) Both of these are titles to some of the "Beach Party" movies for which Usher and Christian wrote songs, but in neither case did they write the title song! Rather, in both cases, the title song was written by Styner/Hemric. Either there's an error in Polygram Music's records or these are songs Usher/Christian wrote as possible title songs, but had rejected in favor of the Styner/ Hemric songs. The following is a known Usher composition (it's listed with BMI), but to the best of my knowledge it was never released on record. It may be the same song as the above "Beach Party." > Beach Party Tonight (Christian/Usher) Now, we come to the more unknown titles. Usher was a writing fool and left lots of demos and unreleased compositions behind when he died. So a long list of unknown songs doesn't surprise me. I have never heard of the following solo compositions being released anywhere: > Gray, Soft, Black and Blue (Usher) > Greener Is the Grass (Usher) > In the Land of Change (Usher) > Love Again (Usher) > Spend a Little Time (Usher) > Still Is (Usher) > What Can You Lose (Usher) In the late 1960s and into the early 1970s, Usher worked on an album project (titled BEYOND A SHADOW OF A DOUBT) with somebody named Dick Campbell. The album was never released, so there's not much information available on it. However, I feel certain these songs all stem from it: > Beyond a Shadow of a Doubt (Richard Campbell/Usher) > Butterflyin' (Campbell/Usher) > California Way (Campbell/Usher) > Dance With Me (Campbell/Usher) > Don't Give Up On Me (Campbell/Usher) > Echo (Campbell/Usher) > Go, Rocket, Go (Campbell/Usher) > High N' Dry (Campbell/Usher) > Love Knows Only You (Campbell/Usher) > Maybe (Campbell/Usher) > Point of View (Campbell/Usher) > Seagull (Campbell/Usher) > Ships (Campbell/Usher) > Sleepy Land (Campbell/Usher) > So Long (Campbell/Usher) > Time to Sing for You (Campbell/Usher) > Walk a Mile (Campbell/Usher) > Wendy (Campbell/Usher) > White Lace and Such (Campbell/Usher) > We May Make It Yet (Campbell/Usher) > You're Only Losing (What You Will Find Again) (Campbell/Usher) Robert McDonald is an unknown collaborator to me. But all through his career, Gary wrote with a lot of people for just one or two songs. To the best of my knowledge, this song has never been released. > Put Your Mind at Ease (Robert McDonald/Usher) Well, we all know who Randy Bachman is, so he's not unknown. However, I've never heard anything about Gary working with him. What vintage are these songs? My guess is that they probably pre-date Bachman-Turner Overdrive, but post-date The Guess Who. Bachman did a solo album (AXE) in 1970 and it would seem logical to think that Usher's path and his might have crossed at that point. > Good Times, Bad Times (Usher/Randy Bachman) > My Best for You (Usher/Bachman) > Too Close To Me (Usher/Bachman) [NOTE: Scott has since confirmed that these date from about 1971, so my guess was right.] Brad Elliott surfXXXX@XXXnline.net ---------------[ archived by Spectropop ]--------------- Subject: The Collector's God and Sugar Kane Sent: 06/25/98 4:13 am Received: 06/25/98 8:18 am From: Brad Elliott, surfXXXX@XXXnline.net To: Spectropop List, spectroXXXX@XXXties.com I couldn't let this one go by: Francesc Sole (fsXXXX@XXXes) wrote: > it seems to be Volume 23 of a > Collectors God series. Any further info anyone? I believe in a Collector's God! I thank him every time I score a great find at a Goodwill store or in a garage sale! I can just imagine the kind of stuff he'd pack into a reissue series! Then Jack Madani wrote: > And speaking of Beach Blanket Bingo, this is one more chance (gad, > I'm such a one note johnny on this topic) for me to mention that > perhaps the greatest *lost* Wall of Sound tune of all time is "New > Love," performed in Beach Blanket Bingo by Sugar Kane (played by > Linda Evans, who I'm sure was just lip synching). Yes, Linda Evans was lip-synching. The vocal really was by Jackie (aka Robin) Ward (yes, she of "Wonderful Summer" fame), with backing by Darlene Love and the Blossoms! Production was by Jerry Styner and Guy Hemric, who wrote the song. Surf's up! Brad ---------------[ archived by Spectropop ]--------------- Subject: What do the contracts say? Sent: 06/25/98 2:16 am Received: 06/25/98 8:18 am From: Paul MacArthur, RTF_XXXX@XXXEDU To: Spectropop List, spectroXXXX@XXXties.com >Phil should convey to the >Ronettes their just due as they were an integral part of the Phil >Spector sound and the money that rolls in at this time from "Be My >Baby" and "Baby I Love You" not to mention the high cost of one >single copy of the original Ronettes Lp Philles 4006...certainly, >Phil's magnificent talent cannot be totally ignored but fair is ?fair...and in the long run, Ronnie did give up a lucrative career >just to be married to the man who wrote "I'll make you happy >Ronnie, just wait and see.".. And Little Richard should get his records back. Muddy Waters should have been paid better by Lenoard Chess. ETC!!!! Forget fair. What do the contracts say? In the end, that is all that will matter. - Paul ---------------[ archived by Spectropop ]--------------- End
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