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Spectropop V#0100

  • From: The Spectropop Group
  • Date: 06/14/98

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              Volume #0100           June 16, 1998
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               Headed for No. 1 on all the charts
    
    
    
    
    
    
    Subject:     even rhino isn't perfect
    Sent:        06/14/98 8:17 am
    Received:    06/14/98 10:22 am
    From:        Jeffrey Thames, KingoGrXXX@XXXm
    To:          Spectropop List, spectroXXX@XXXies.com
    
    In a message dated 98-06-13 02:17:24 EDT, paul urbahns writes:
    
    << Don't want to sound like bad grapes but I don't like their 
     labeling policy today and have been burned by too many Rhino 
     purchases. >>
    
    
    you know what i miss on rhino cd's?
    
    
    RUNNING TIMES!!!!!!
    
    grrrrrr...
    
    jeff
    
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    Subject:     Re: Have You Seen Your Mother, Baby
    Sent:        06/13/98 7:43 pm
    Received:    06/14/98 12:31 am
    From:        Marc Wielage, XXX@XXXrax.com
    To:          Spectropop List, spectroXXX@XXXies.com
    
    Billy G. Spradlin <bilXXX@XXXe.net> asked on the Spectropop List:
    
    >I just wonder if
    >there are more 64-66 tracks that are lurking in the Polydor/Abkco
    >vaults that were never released in true stereo, and I wonder if
    >"Have You Seen Your Mother, Baby" was ever released in stereo.
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    As far as I know, no. It's out in synth. stereo on the Abkco 
    SINGLES COLLECTION boxed set, and also on the MORE HOT ROCKS disc 
    -- which just shows you how lame Allen Klein's people are at 
    distinguishing true stereo vs. mono vs. synth. stereo. Idiots...
    
    
    --MFW
    
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    Subject:     Re: Stones in Stereo
    Sent:        06/13/98 5:17 pm
    Received:    06/14/98 12:31 am
    From:        Brad Elliott, surfXXX@XXXline.net
    To:          Spectropop List, spectroXXX@XXXies.com
    
    Billy G. Spradlin (bilXXX@XXXe.net) wrote:
    
    > I just wonder if 
    > there are more 64-66 tracks that are lurking in the Polydor/Abkco 
    > vaults that were never released in true stereo, and I wonder if 
    > "Have You Seen Your Mother, Baby" was ever released in stereo. We 
    > will probably never hear them....
    
    In the very early 1980s, I came into possession of a cassette tape
    that contained a number of then-unreleased stereo Stones mixes. The
    story I was told was that an engineer who had been involved with 
    the Stones at some point had dubbed off these mixes from the 
    original multi-tracks. Among the songs included were "Satisfaction," 
    "Heart of Stone" and "Play With Fire," all later released on 
    that UK CD of HOT ROCKS 1, plus both "19th Nervous Breakdown" and 
    "Have You Seen Your Mother, Baby"! To the best of my knowledge, 
    neither of those has ever turned up in stereo on a commercial 
    release, but (as I wrote earlier) that syndicated release of "19NB" 
    in stereo has got to be coming from somewhere -- and I doubt 
    it's from a cassette dub like mine. Maybe when the stereo "19NB" 
    finally is found, the stereo "HYSYMB" will be with it, too. I can 
    personally vouch for the fact that the mix does exist, even if 
    only on tape!
    
    BTW, two of the other stereo mixes on the tape are "It's All Over 
    Now" and "The Last Time," neither of which I have elsewhere in 
    stereo, but for some reason I seem to think that both of these 
    have been released commericially in stereo. Does anyone know where? 
    Neither is on the UK HOT ROCKS 1 CD.
    
    Surf's up!
    Brad Elliott
    
    
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    Subject:     Stereo & Mono
    Sent:        06/13/98 4:28 pm
    Received:    06/14/98 12:31 am
    From:        Michael Carpenter, StagefriXXX@XXXmsn.com
    To:          Spectropop, spectroXXX@XXXies.com
    
    Hi folks,
    
    Just jumping in here with my thoughts on the stereo and mono 
    things.
    
    I've been listening to a lot more mono 60's stuff. Lots of Beatles
    singles, EPs, Motown boxed sets etc, and i really believe that for 
    a lot of this stuff, the mono version is not only different, but 
    IMO, more 'artistically' true. Back then, as we all know, most 
    people still mixed for mono, and stereo was more of an 
    afterthought. My impression is that many songs, particularly the 
    Beatles stuff, was recorded in such a way that it was going to be 
    heard in mono. They therefore planned there tracking accordingly. 
    My impression is that the mono versions of much of this stuff are 
    more in keeping with what the artist/producer was shooting for. 
    Apart from that, i feel that they just sound more together, not 
    just sonically, but creatively. If you need proof, hunt down a 
    mono Paperback Writer... it kicks ass. I find sometimes that 
    although great to dissect a song by hearing the stereo version, 
    some of the impact goes also. Somebody mentioned The Temptations '
    My Girl' .. a wonderful mono record, and longer in mono too.
    
    Anyway, I'm sure you get the idea. I doubt that either is better, 
    but just lately, I've been enjoying sharing the artists vision of 
    how there tracks were meant to be.
    
    Catch A Wave
    Michael 'one ear' Carpenter
    Catch A Wave
    Michael
    
    
    
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    Subject:     The Sound of Summer
    Sent:        06/16/98 3:14 am
    Received:    06/16/98 12:19 am
    From:        Jamie LePage, le_page_XXX@XXXies.com
    To:          SPECTROPOP LIST, spectroXXX@XXXies.com
    
    I just got a copy of "The Sound of Summer - The Very best of 
    Surfin' & Hot Rod Music" (TOCP-50589). Issued this month, it is a 
    collection of EMI masters related to the surf/hot rod genres. It's
    got the regulars: Surfer Girl & Little Deuce Coupe (BBs), Surf City
    & Ride the Wild Surf (J&D), I Live for the Sun & Andrea (Sunrays), 
    and others like that, but there are a few notable tracks worth 
    mentioning here.
    
    It's as easy as 1-2-3 (Jill Gibson, Imperial 66068 - mono) Never 
    had heard this before. Jan & Dean recorded this too, and to me 
    Jill Gibson (who co-penned this with Don Altfeld) sounds incredible
    on ...Easy as 1-2-3 with her "relaxed" vocal style. Sounds like the 
    backing track is the same as the J&D version! Hal Blaine definitely! 
    Jan produced this for Jill, and word has it that Jill was Jan's main 
    squeeze at the time. Any more info on this? Hey Doc, it's on 
    Imperial!
    
    Nice to see After the Game (Survivors) in an official release here
    (mono) instead of the more common Pamela Jean.
    
    Pray for Surf (Honeys) is on here in what sounds like crap but is 
    listed as mono rechannelled for stereo. This is one of my two 
    favorite Honeys tracks, the other being He's a Doll. The bari 
    saxes and Hal Blaine fills on this are tops.
    
    Probably the most intriguing is Don't Drag Me Down (Susan Lynne). 
    A wonderful GG record; Susan pleads with her boyfriend not to drag 
    race: "Baybee, pleeeze!" over backgrounds sounding a lot like 
    the Angels and soaring Brian Wilson-like falsetto oohs. But, no
    credits. The song was penned by Artie Kornfeld, who collaborated on 
    several other songs with Jan Berry; he even had a hand in writing
    The Rain, the Park and Other Things I think. Susan name checks Dead
    Man's Curve in the verse. Love the tremelo rhythm guitar. Great 
    record! Anything else anyone can share about this GG/hot rod answer 
    song? 
    
    Surf & turf rules!
    --
    le_page_XXX@XXXies.com
    RodeoDrive/5030
    
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    Subject:     Warner/ Spector & Big Tree/ Spector
    Sent:        06/15/98 6:40 am
    Received:    06/15/98 7:40 am
    From:        Anthony G  Pavick, XXX@XXXma.lm.com
    To:          Spectropop List, spectroXXX@XXXies.com
    
    Hey Phil-o-philes!
    
    I'm new to the list and want to ask a quickie question. Does 
    anyone have a discography of the 45s and lps and Warner/ Spector 
    and also Big Tree/ Spector...Phil's mid 70s labels.
    
    If I'n not mistaken, there were 10 45 rpm releases on W/S, and 
    maybe 3 lps. As far as I know only one of the 45s came close to 
    being a hit, and that was Soul Man by Calhoon. As luck would have 
    it, it wasn't even produced by Phil!
    
    Big Tree/ Spector had maybe only 1 45, and that was by Dion.
    
    I think I have most of them, but there are holes in my collection.
    Any help would be appreciated.
    
    Tony
    
    
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