==================================== S P E C T R O P O P ==================================== Volume #0100 June 16, 1998 ==================================== Headed for No. 1 on all the charts Subject: even rhino isn't perfect Sent: 06/14/98 8:17 am Received: 06/14/98 10:22 am From: Jeffrey Thames, KingoGrXXX@XXXm To: Spectropop List, spectroXXX@XXXies.com In a message dated 98-06-13 02:17:24 EDT, paul urbahns writes: << Don't want to sound like bad grapes but I don't like their labeling policy today and have been burned by too many Rhino purchases. >> you know what i miss on rhino cd's? RUNNING TIMES!!!!!! grrrrrr... jeff ====================[ archived by Spectropop ]==================== Subject: Re: Have You Seen Your Mother, Baby Sent: 06/13/98 7:43 pm Received: 06/14/98 12:31 am From: Marc Wielage, XXX@XXXrax.com To: Spectropop List, spectroXXX@XXXies.com Billy G. Spradlin <bilXXX@XXXe.net> asked on the Spectropop List: >I just wonder if >there are more 64-66 tracks that are lurking in the Polydor/Abkco >vaults that were never released in true stereo, and I wonder if >"Have You Seen Your Mother, Baby" was ever released in stereo. ------------------------<snip>------------------------ As far as I know, no. It's out in synth. stereo on the Abkco SINGLES COLLECTION boxed set, and also on the MORE HOT ROCKS disc -- which just shows you how lame Allen Klein's people are at distinguishing true stereo vs. mono vs. synth. stereo. Idiots... --MFW -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- -= Marc Wielage | "The computerized authority =- -= MusicTrax, Ltd. | on rock, pop, & soul." =- -= Chatsworth, CA | XXX@XXXrax.com =- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- ====================[ archived by Spectropop ]==================== Subject: Re: Stones in Stereo Sent: 06/13/98 5:17 pm Received: 06/14/98 12:31 am From: Brad Elliott, surfXXX@XXXline.net To: Spectropop List, spectroXXX@XXXies.com Billy G. Spradlin (bilXXX@XXXe.net) wrote: > I just wonder if > there are more 64-66 tracks that are lurking in the Polydor/Abkco > vaults that were never released in true stereo, and I wonder if > "Have You Seen Your Mother, Baby" was ever released in stereo. We > will probably never hear them.... In the very early 1980s, I came into possession of a cassette tape that contained a number of then-unreleased stereo Stones mixes. The story I was told was that an engineer who had been involved with the Stones at some point had dubbed off these mixes from the original multi-tracks. Among the songs included were "Satisfaction," "Heart of Stone" and "Play With Fire," all later released on that UK CD of HOT ROCKS 1, plus both "19th Nervous Breakdown" and "Have You Seen Your Mother, Baby"! To the best of my knowledge, neither of those has ever turned up in stereo on a commercial release, but (as I wrote earlier) that syndicated release of "19NB" in stereo has got to be coming from somewhere -- and I doubt it's from a cassette dub like mine. Maybe when the stereo "19NB" finally is found, the stereo "HYSYMB" will be with it, too. I can personally vouch for the fact that the mix does exist, even if only on tape! BTW, two of the other stereo mixes on the tape are "It's All Over Now" and "The Last Time," neither of which I have elsewhere in stereo, but for some reason I seem to think that both of these have been released commericially in stereo. Does anyone know where? Neither is on the UK HOT ROCKS 1 CD. Surf's up! Brad Elliott ====================[ archived by Spectropop ]==================== Subject: Stereo & Mono Sent: 06/13/98 4:28 pm Received: 06/14/98 12:31 am From: Michael Carpenter, StagefriXXX@XXXmsn.com To: Spectropop, spectroXXX@XXXies.com Hi folks, Just jumping in here with my thoughts on the stereo and mono things. I've been listening to a lot more mono 60's stuff. Lots of Beatles singles, EPs, Motown boxed sets etc, and i really believe that for a lot of this stuff, the mono version is not only different, but IMO, more 'artistically' true. Back then, as we all know, most people still mixed for mono, and stereo was more of an afterthought. My impression is that many songs, particularly the Beatles stuff, was recorded in such a way that it was going to be heard in mono. They therefore planned there tracking accordingly. My impression is that the mono versions of much of this stuff are more in keeping with what the artist/producer was shooting for. Apart from that, i feel that they just sound more together, not just sonically, but creatively. If you need proof, hunt down a mono Paperback Writer... it kicks ass. I find sometimes that although great to dissect a song by hearing the stereo version, some of the impact goes also. Somebody mentioned The Temptations ' My Girl' .. a wonderful mono record, and longer in mono too. Anyway, I'm sure you get the idea. I doubt that either is better, but just lately, I've been enjoying sharing the artists vision of how there tracks were meant to be. Catch A Wave Michael 'one ear' Carpenter Catch A Wave Michael ====================[ archived by Spectropop ]==================== Subject: The Sound of Summer Sent: 06/16/98 3:14 am Received: 06/16/98 12:19 am From: Jamie LePage, le_page_XXX@XXXies.com To: SPECTROPOP LIST, spectroXXX@XXXies.com I just got a copy of "The Sound of Summer - The Very best of Surfin' & Hot Rod Music" (TOCP-50589). Issued this month, it is a collection of EMI masters related to the surf/hot rod genres. It's got the regulars: Surfer Girl & Little Deuce Coupe (BBs), Surf City & Ride the Wild Surf (J&D), I Live for the Sun & Andrea (Sunrays), and others like that, but there are a few notable tracks worth mentioning here. It's as easy as 1-2-3 (Jill Gibson, Imperial 66068 - mono) Never had heard this before. Jan & Dean recorded this too, and to me Jill Gibson (who co-penned this with Don Altfeld) sounds incredible on ...Easy as 1-2-3 with her "relaxed" vocal style. Sounds like the backing track is the same as the J&D version! Hal Blaine definitely! Jan produced this for Jill, and word has it that Jill was Jan's main squeeze at the time. Any more info on this? Hey Doc, it's on Imperial! Nice to see After the Game (Survivors) in an official release here (mono) instead of the more common Pamela Jean. Pray for Surf (Honeys) is on here in what sounds like crap but is listed as mono rechannelled for stereo. This is one of my two favorite Honeys tracks, the other being He's a Doll. The bari saxes and Hal Blaine fills on this are tops. Probably the most intriguing is Don't Drag Me Down (Susan Lynne). A wonderful GG record; Susan pleads with her boyfriend not to drag race: "Baybee, pleeeze!" over backgrounds sounding a lot like the Angels and soaring Brian Wilson-like falsetto oohs. But, no credits. The song was penned by Artie Kornfeld, who collaborated on several other songs with Jan Berry; he even had a hand in writing The Rain, the Park and Other Things I think. Susan name checks Dead Man's Curve in the verse. Love the tremelo rhythm guitar. Great record! Anything else anyone can share about this GG/hot rod answer song? Surf & turf rules! -- le_page_XXX@XXXies.com RodeoDrive/5030 ====================[ archived by Spectropop ]==================== Subject: Warner/ Spector & Big Tree/ Spector Sent: 06/15/98 6:40 am Received: 06/15/98 7:40 am From: Anthony G Pavick, XXX@XXXma.lm.com To: Spectropop List, spectroXXX@XXXies.com Hey Phil-o-philes! I'm new to the list and want to ask a quickie question. Does anyone have a discography of the 45s and lps and Warner/ Spector and also Big Tree/ Spector...Phil's mid 70s labels. If I'n not mistaken, there were 10 45 rpm releases on W/S, and maybe 3 lps. As far as I know only one of the 45s came close to being a hit, and that was Soul Man by Calhoon. As luck would have it, it wasn't even produced by Phil! Big Tree/ Spector had maybe only 1 45, and that was by Dion. I think I have most of them, but there are holes in my collection. Any help would be appreciated. Tony ====================[ archived by Spectropop ]==================== END
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