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Spectropop - Digest Number 991



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There are 25 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

      1. Re: Jack Nitzsche Update
           From: Martin Roberts 
      2. Simon White's Metropolitan Soul playlist 16th August 03
           From: Simon White 
      3. Re: RIP - Ed Townsend
           From: Martin Roberts 
      4. Re: Badfinger
           From: Doug 
      5. Re: Needles And Pins
           From: Martin Roberts 
      6. Re: Lemon Pipers
           From: Stewart Mason 
      7. Re: Teen-Age Dreams
           From: Martin Roberts 
      8. Re: Roy Orbison at MGM
           From: Simon White 
      9. Patrice Holloway
           From: Stuffed Animal 
     10. Badfinger
           From: Phil Chapman 
     11. Alder Ray
           From: Martin Roberts 
     12. Re: Needles And Pins
           From: Phil Chapman 
     13. Back in the 80s.
           From: Steve Harvey 
     14. Re: RIP - Ed Townsend
           From: Simon White 
     15. Reparata's Writers
           From: Mark Frumento 
     16. Re: Simon White's Metropolitan Soul playlist 16th August 03
           From: James Botticelli 
     17. Re: The Lemon Pipers
           From: David Coyle 
     18. Ed Townsend/Foolish Fool
           From: Frank Youngwerth 
     19. Re: Simon White's Metropolitan Soul playlist 16th August 03
           From: Simon White 
     20. Re: Roy Orbison at MGM
           From: Richard Hattersley 
     21. nnillssonn... what's the Point?
           From: Alan Gordon 
     22. Re: RIP -  Ed Townsend
           From: Martin Roberts 
     23. Badfinger, Lemon Pipers
           From: Bob Rashkow 
     24. Re: Lemon Pipers
           From: Ken Bell 
     25. Re: Ed Townsend/Foolish Fool
           From: James Botticelli 


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Message: 1
   Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2003 22:24:41 +0100
   From: Martin Roberts 
Subject: Re: Jack Nitzsche Update

Jeff Lemlich wrote:
> My streak of voting for the "losing" record goes on and on!

Sorry about that Jeff! Not that I'd like to influence the 
voting but the Dorsey Burnette 45 is so good I hope this 
week you voted for Donnie Brooks!

Martin



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Message: 2 Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2003 21:43:09 +0100 From: Simon White Subject: Simon White's Metropolitan Soul playlist 16th August 03 Ad Libs - New York In The Dark - Inferno ( Eskee) Curtis Lee -Is She In Your Town - Goldmine CD [132 'Totally Northern Soul Vol 2' (Mira)] Little Richard - Talking About Soul - Dynasty Pat Powdrill - Do It - Kent CD 192 - (Downey) Dee Dee Sharp - Bye Bye Baby - Atco Bob And Earl - Harlem Shuffle (Instrumental) - Surprise Duke Turner And The Chi Towns - Let Me Be Your Baby Sitter [Spinning Top] Billy Storm - Educated Fool - Goldmine CD [106 "Totally Northern Soul" (Infinity)] The Sheppards - How Do You Like It - Jay Boy (Mirwood) Pookie Hudson - Jealous Heart - Double L Friendly People - Aint Got Nothing But The Blues (Instrumental) Goldmine CD 74 (Instrumental) - I Miss You Baby, How I Miss You Archie Bell And The Drells - You're Such A Beautiful Child Atlantic Bobby Joy - You Sweet Devil You - Tangerine Love Committee - Cheaters Never Win - Gold Mind Debbie Taylor - No Deposit No Return CD Castle 291 'On The Real Side' (Today) Trammps - Stop And Think - Golden Fleece We The People - Making My Daydream Real - Lion Mike And Brenda Sutton - We'll Make It - Sam The Ebonys - I'm So Glad I'm Me - Philly International Bobby Mcclure - You Got Me Baby - Checker Jackie Day - Oh What Heartache - Modern Jackie Day - My Naughty Boy - Goldmine CD 146 'The Stafford Story' (Phelectron) Ketty Lester - Show Me - Pete Ketty Lester - Love Me - Tower Linda Lloyd - Breakaway - Columbia Margie Day - Aint It The Truth - RCA Dodie West - In The Deep Of Night - Checker Pat Thomas - Long Long Night - Verve Micki Lynn - I Got The Blues - Capitol Fran Jeffries - Gone Now - Monument Bunny Sigler - Follow Your Heart - Parkway Carl Hall - You're So Qualified - Mercury Johnny Moore - Walk Like A Man - Date George Freeman - Why Are You Doing This To Me - Shout Dee Dee Sharp - Deep Dark Secret - Cameo Eddie Bo - Every Dog Got His Day - Ric Derek Martin - If You Go - Sue Southwind Symphony - Comin' Home (Instrumental) - Glo Light http://www.soul24-7.com The World's leading SOUL Music URL -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 3 Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2003 21:58:30 +0100 From: Martin Roberts Subject: Re: RIP - Ed Townsend How very sad to read Phil's posting on the death of Ed Townsend, I had some S'pop friends visit Wednesday and Ed's name was mentioned, we all agreed what a great talent he was. Taking a look through our records there can't be many of us that won't come across Ed's name as either writer or producer on more than a few favourites. I thought it would be nice to play one of Mr. Townsend's vocal records to musica, a fairly hard choice. His own vocal of the Shirelles hit, "I Might Like It" on Maxx is a goodie as is "There's No Other" on Liberty and there are many more records by him that I haven't got than I have. But the record that got my vote is from his time with Capitol in the late 50s. Most of this material is probably too 'middle of the road' for S'pop but "Don't Ever Leave Me" conducted by Nelson Riddle (as most of his Capitol sides are) is a wonderfully atmospheric ballad (almost Nitzsche-like), with Ed singing as good as he ever had. Martin -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 4 Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2003 18:49:33 -0000 From: Doug Subject: Re: Badfinger Michael Edwards wrote: > Which brings me to an article in the current edition of "Orlando" > magazine. They feature 5 former R&R greats who now reside in Central > Florida. The most interesting was Barbara Lewis but it was a comment > by Mike Gibbins of Badfinger, referring to their song "Without You" > that was a #1 for Nilsson in 1971, that caught my eye: > "We threw that one away", smiles Gibbins. "It was filler. Harry > took it to number 1. Mariah Carey did it not too long ago. She > got to number 1 as well. She just bought me a swimming pool" > A nice story when you consider the tragedies that befell some of > the members of that group! It's especially nice for him (Mike Gibbins), considering the fact neither he nor Joey Molland had anything to do with writing the song. The two guys that did write it, Pete Ham and Tom Evans, both hung themselves. Enjoy the pool, Mike! Doug -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 5 Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2003 22:45:06 +0100 From: Martin Roberts Subject: Re: Needles And Pins Peter Lerner replied to Bill Craig's query regarding "Needles And Pins": > Martin Roberts would give equal credit to > Jack Nitzsche and who am I to argue. >A 45 years ahead > of its time, perhaps 45 years. And I won't argue with that! Although I would acknowledge that the pressing of many of Jackie's Liberty records sound slightly dull and lifeless. When these same tracks have been mastered for CD the power and beauty leaps out of the grooves. Talking of "Needles And Pins", anyone else heard the story (or have I made it up!) that really the record was written by Jack Nitzsche and Jackie DeShannon but the co-credit was given to Sonny Bono due to his lack of funds at the time? Martin -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 6 Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2003 03:37:41 -0400 From: Stewart Mason Subject: Re: Lemon Pipers Andrew Jones: > The Fruitgum Co. was also supposed to be a decent live band, > doing more "sophisticated" material in their live act than on > their records. John Fox writes: > Sounds like another Buddah band--The Lemon Pipers. Those of us > from the Cincinnati area remember them from 1967 as one of the > first psychedelic/progressive/acid rock bands around, yet Buddah > got a hold of them and turned them into bubble gum in 1968. Actually, I just got the CD reissue of the GREEN TAMBOURINE album last summer, and other than the title track and "Rice Is Nice" (both of which, incidentally, are pretty swell), there's some really quite good semi-hard psychedelic rock on there! Unlike the majority of Buddah albums, this one is actually entirely listenable throughout. S -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 7 Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2003 22:34:52 +0100 From: Martin Roberts Subject: Re: Teen-Age Dreams Mikey wrote: >Marty, what volume did you buy? > What's the first song on it? I want to see if this is the same > series I have, on Farmer Records. There are several diffent > series of stuff like this, all with "Teenage" in the titles. >The series I have is excellent. One can go thru all the volumes > and put together a 30 track Cd where EVERY track is fantastic. Who's Marty? :-) That's the series Mikey, mine is Vol. 12 it says on the sleeve notes that they have changed there label name from Farmer Records to Teeny Weeny Records from this release. First track is; Danny Jordan - Just Couldn't Resist Her With Her Pocket Transistor (wr Keller-Kolber) Leader 811 '60. With another 29 tracks that are just as fun and obscure. My reason in wanting to contact them is that some of the details are incomplete. Martin -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 8 Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2003 09:23:24 +0100 From: Simon White Subject: Re: Roy Orbison at MGM I have a soft spot for "Born To be Loved By You" Simon -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 9 Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2003 13:55:00 +0000 From: Stuffed Animal Subject: Patrice Holloway Scott: > I have to agree with you both about Patrice Holloway. I first > picked up on her through her great Josie & the Pussycats work > (probably my favorite record ever, though I rarely admit it). > "Roadrunner" and "Voodoo" are some of the best tunes Saturday > mornings ever heard. But when I heard "Stolen Hours" for the > first time a few years ago, I about hit the roof. How was this > track NOT a huge pop or soul hit?! At least Northern Soul enthusiasts in the UK have given this wonderful record its due! > "That's the Chance" sounds like a Josie outtake (same producers > even, I believe). Same producers, yes, but it sounds more like an Osmonds outtake to me. Less soulful, more on the pop side. > I am wondering why we haven't seen anyone release a retrospective > compilation of Patrice tracks. Someone in France is trying to do that right now. The Josie and The Pussycats tracks are definitely a challenge to license . . . even though they came out on Capitol, they were never Capitol masters. Hanna-Barbera Studios retained ownership, and you have to go through AOL/Time Warner to get 'em . . . plus, you need permission from Archie Comics, which owns the Pussycats name . . . it's a complicated process that's probably scared away prospective compilation producers in the past. It CAN be done, though! > I believe I read here that she had been through some tough times > recently, so it would be nice to see her publicly recognized with > a compilation of her work. The lady deserves that and more. The > consistent $200 price tage for the "Stolen Hours" 45 would seem > to ensure a certain number of sales for a CD. Maybe she could > even be convinced to record something new to round out the set? Unfortunately, new recordings from Patrice Holloway are probably out of the question . . . I hear that her current state of health is not good. But I definitely second your motion for a long-overdue Patrice/Pussycats compilation, with "Stolen Hours" as the title track! Stuff -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 10 Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2003 15:34:33 +0100 From: Phil Chapman Subject: Badfinger Mike Edwards: > A nice story when you consider the tragedies that befell > some of the members of that group! Mike, around about this time thirty years ago, I worked as engineer on Badfinger's first Warner Brothers album. Pete was generally down - there were background management issues, and he readily admitted he'd never really got over not having the successful version of their own song "Without You" - "...nobody thought it was a hit". He really tried with "I Miss You", and put a lot of store by it. Tommy, on the other hand, was more pragmatic, after all, they were earning from the song, he thought. Pete's tragic death (and later, Tommy's) really shook me, as I was relatively new to the music business, and had little awareness of the effect it can have on sensitive souls. Phil -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 11 Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2003 22:49:41 +0100 From: Martin Roberts Subject: Alder Ray John Clemente gave some interesting information on Alder Ray but raised a query: > When I first heard "'Cause I Love Him", it was from a reissue > compilation LP, the name of which escapes me now. The LP is called "Dream Babies" and is an essential purchase, currently on ebay with full track details, http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2552026852&category=43711 Martin -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 12 Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2003 15:45:01 +0100 From: Phil Chapman Subject: Re: Needles And Pins Martin: > Although I would acknowledge that the pressing of > many of Jackie's Liberty records sound slightly > dull and lifeless. I'd get your record deck seen to, Marty! J deS's "Needles And Pins" on the US 45 virtually vaults out of the speakers, having a kick drum sound way deeper than anything I'd heard to date, including most Motown 45s. And the UK 45 of "When You Walk In The Room" leaves the stereo reissue standing. > Talking of "Needles And Pins", anyone else heard the > story (or have I made it up!) that really the record > was written by Jack Nitzsche and Jackie DeShannon but > the co-credit was given to Sonny Bono due to his lack > of funds at the time? Not heard that one before, but I've often wondered why Jack & Sonny appear to have collaborated on only the one tune, and such a big hit. You'd've thought they may have at least written one or two more? Phil -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 13 Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2003 08:44:27 -0700 (PDT) From: Steve Harvey Subject: Back in the 80s. Badfinger played in Delaware in the 80s at a place called Cowboys. It was Mike, Tom and some other guys. After the gig I see this guy walking by who looks familiar. He's looking at me like he knows me. I'm thinking it's somebody from high school or something, but it was Joey Molland. He made his way to the dressing room where Tom tries to knock his head off. Turns out he was touring under the Badfinger name too which didn't go over well with Evans. Even stranger is that Molland was living in Wilmington at the time. Hardly a rock and roll stronghold. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 14 Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2003 16:44:25 +0100 From: Simon White Subject: Re: RIP - Ed Townsend Martin Roberts: > How very sad to read Phil's posting on the death of Ed Townsend. Sad indeed, Martin. I'm a recent convert to Ed, on the strength of one awesome 45, 'Who Would Deny Me", on MGM. Have a listen: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/spectropop/files/musica I knew 'Lets Get It On' and his work with Theola Kilgore of course but he was a new name to me until Kendra (Kenni Woods) Spotswood mentioned how good he was when she was here last year. I bought the 45 the same weekend. Simon -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 15 Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2003 18:21:25 -0000 From: Mark Frumento Subject: Reparata's Writers If it's not too much trouble can someone provide writers credits for Reparata & the Delrons' singles? I recently purchased "Magical Musical History Tour." Good as it is to have all the singles in one place, it's frustrating to have no details behind the less well known songs. Maybe someone out there wrote liners notes for the CD and just forgot to turn them over to the producers? -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 16 Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2003 12:07:10 -0400 From: James Botticelli Subject: Re: Simon White's Metropolitan Soul playlist 16th August 03 Simon White wrote: > Love Committee - Cheaters Never Win - Gold Mind That's a big rekkid with a certain crowd I DJ for on occasion. Played back to back with "Janice" by Skip Mahoaney of course~ -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 17 Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2003 11:51:42 -0700 (PDT) From: David Coyle Subject: Re: The Lemon Pipers I have a 45 on the Prism label (based out of Dayton, OH) of Ivan and the Sabres, "Just Let Her Go" b/w "It's Not Like You." Both very good mid-'60s Beatlesque pop, but notable for being led by Ivan Browne, who later sang on most of the Lemon Pipers hits and album tracks. The voice is definitely the same, although he added a little more vibrato and a slightly higher pitch during the LP days. I don't know how many other Sabres became Lemon Pipers or whether it was a straight transition from one group to the other. To me, the 1910 Fruitgum Co. were the best of the Buddah bands, with some stronger material, and a slight bit more autonomy. They were originally known variously as the Odyssey and Jeckell and the Hydes. Dave -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 18 Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2003 15:34:45 EDT From: Frank Youngwerth Subject: Ed Townsend/Foolish Fool Phil wrote: > One of my favourites is Dee Dee Warwick's "Foolish Fool". > I was once listening to this full-tilt in a studio while > setting up a Led Zep session, and a rather inebriated John > Bonham declared "that's the way I want MY *!$%&* drums to > sound!" Phil, given the legendary (and massively influential) status of Bonham's drum sound, your anecdote about his drunken reaction to Dee Dee's "Foolish Fool" (a fave of mine too) is most interesting. Can you date the session? Besides writing for (and with) Ms. Warwick, Ed Townsend produced many of her sides, going back to '65. On their first, for Blue Rock - "Do It With All Your Heart" - Warwick herself claims to be the drummer! Cheers to Martin - thanks for playing the Blossoms. Frank Youngwerth -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 19 Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2003 20:49:59 +0100 From: Simon White Subject: Re: Simon White's Metropolitan Soul playlist 16th August 03 Simon White wrote: > Love Committee - Cheaters Never Win - Gold Mind James Botticelli: > That's a big rekkid with a certain crowd I DJ for on occasion. > Played back to back with "Janice" by Skip Mahoney of course. OOOH now we're talking! I never actually had a copy of SM's "Janice", but would you be interested in hearing it sung by Motown legend Frank Wilson? -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 20 Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2003 20:34:18 +0000 From: Richard Hattersley Subject: Re: Roy Orbison at MGM Jeff Lemlich: >"Southbound Jericho Parkway" is a remarkable single. It's > pretty much a Neon Philharmonic record, but with Roy on vocals > instead of Don Gant. Gant moved to the producer's chair for > this one, while Tupper Saussy gets credit for the arrangement, > which sounds like it hopped off the first Neon Philharmonic > album Sounds like they were going after a bit of the "Macarthur Park" market what with it being very long. It's a fantastic record but realistically I don't know why MGM thought it might be a hit. I wish record companies these days were that willing to stick their neck out and put out such a non commercial, albeit artistic, product. Richard http://www.wiz.to/richardsnow -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 21 Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2003 13:50:09 -0700 From: Alan Gordon Subject: nnillssonn... what's the Point? Susan Lang wrote: >T he comments I've seen on one of the Harry lists indicate > that it's not anything to write home about - basically > just a transfer from video to DVD of the most common version > - the Ringo narration. Yes, it will be on DVD, but that's the > ONLY difference. No new footage, no other versions; it hasn't > even been cleaned up. A real disappointment, actually. Thanx Susan: Where did you get your info, ma'am? I've tried to get any info at all during the last few weeks, but it seems the DVD release may have been canceled. I had read a release date for it on: http://www.dvdpricesearch.com/ ...for tomorrow the 19th of August, but it seems none of the regular sites I order from have it listed at all: http://www.deepdiscountdvd.com/ This is the cheapest and has the best return policy... and great customer service... but their info dept. doesn't have much to offer. http://www.dvdplanet.com/ This site is pretty good in the info dept., except in this case. The only thing they had to offer was "The Point - Not available on DVD, no announcement." http://www.harryfest.com/article24623.html There is a small amount of info concerning pre-orders at this site, but that's all I could dig up. In fact, isn't this site run by one of our S'Pop cohorts? So, I am in my usual state of net-quandary. I beg thee valid information. peace albabe -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 22 Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2003 22:36:21 +0100 From: Martin Roberts Subject: Re: RIP - Ed Townsend Thanks, Simon for playing Ed Townsend's "Who Would Deny Me" to musica, a cracking song and a new one to me. Mick Patrick in the 'good old days' of C.90s was the first to introduce me to the vocal recordings of Ed. At the time they were perhaps to soulful for my tender ears but the tunes had that something that kept me replaying them. I no longer have a tape player but one track I remember very fondly is Ed's version of "Down Home". Perhaps he'd care to play it to musica? Martin -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 23 Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2003 18:36:14 EDT From: Bob Rashkow Subject: Badfinger, Lemon Pipers Much as I love Nilsson I must confess a special place in my heart for Badfinger's original "Without You" not to mention the entire NO DICE album. The remaining guys played at Beatle Fest in Chicago back in 1987; I was fortunate enough to be in the audience, and they were joined by Billy Preston. At the time I knew nothing of Preston's connection with Apple and the Beatles! I think what John Fox meant to say re the Lemon Pipers was that Buddah's 45s packaging of them ("Turn Around-Take A Look", "Green Tambourine", "Jelly Jungle") emphasized the bubblegum aspect. It's true that the GREEN TAMBOURINE and JUNGLE MARMALADE LPs both contain some groovy, hard-edged psych rock. BTW John, I never did hear from Paul Trefzger--before my "Tears Come Tumbling" I'll have to try and contact him again! ! ! Bobster -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 24 Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2003 19:40:39 -0500 From: Ken Bell Subject: Re: Lemon Pipers Stewart Mason wrote: > Unlike the majority of Buddah albums, this one is actually > entirely listenable throughout. OUCH!! I think I felt my bubblegum POP! Can't tell you why but even as an oldster, I still enjoy that good ole bubblegum music. Chewy, chewy, chewy baby..... Ken -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 25 Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2003 21:33:39 -0400 From: James Botticelli Subject: Re: Ed Townsend/Foolish Fool Phil wrote: > One of my favourites is Dee Dee Warwick's "Foolish Fool". > I was once listening to this full-tilt in a studio while > setting up a Led Zep session, and a rather inebriated John > Bonham declared "that's the way I want MY *!$%&* drums to > sound!" I used to do a soul show and tried to play difficult to find 45s. I had a copy of "Foolish Fool" and had never heard it before my rekkid detective found it in '84. I hadn't even heard of Dee Dee but that was yesterday and yesterdaze gone. Anyway the point of this story? Oh yeah, the point is that I used to pride myself on the art of the "talkup" as a radio DJ. A talkup is when the DJ talks over the instrumental introduction of a record up to the 'post'. The post being where the vocalist on the record steps in and the DJ should shut up to avoid stepping on the vocal. I had a promo copy of the 45 where it gives you intro time so you can plan your blather. I distinctly remember introducing that song right before the post by saying "Dee Dee Warwick here, sister of Dionne by the way, singing about a fool...not just any fool mind you, but a.....FOOLISH fool." Oh what fun we had. JB -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
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