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Spectropop - Digest Number 984

               SPECTROPOP - Spectacular! Retro! Pop!

There are 22 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

      1. Important changes @ yahoo - fyi
           From: S'pop Team 
      2. Happy birthday Ronnie Spector
           From: David Young 
      3. Rangoons on musica
           From: Michael Edwards 
      4. Re: Look For A Star
           From: Norman 
      5. Re: Peggy Lipton Question
           From: Keith D'Arcy 
      6. Re: Gary Miles & Garry Mills
           From: Artie Wayne 
      7. Re: Palm Springs Rockfest
           From: Jim Allio 
      8. Re: Gary Miles & Garry Mills
           From: Alan V Karr 
      9. Bob Rashkow/ Janis Ian / The Groop
           From: Artie Wayne 
     10. Re: Sire discography
           From: Michel Gignac 
     11. A special request - Ron Dante's birthday
           From: Laura Pinto 
     12. Re: Chuck Woolery: He's still got it!
           From: Art Longmire 
     13. Re: Blackwells Single
           From: Clarke Davis 
     14. U.P. GROOVES!
           From: Andrew Jones 
     15. 3 D's; Starsailor; Janis Ian; "Mind" movie; Statues
           From: Country Paul 
     16. Re: Roemans
           From: Bill Craig 
     17. Jerry Butler and......?
           From: Tony Leong 
     18. Peggy Lipton
           From: Frank Youngwerth 
     19. Roemans, Shelby Flint, Palm Springs
           From: Country Paul 
     20. Gary Mills/Garry Miles - Look For A Star
           From: Austin Powell 
     21. Beg, Borrow And Steal
           From: Paul Urbahns 
     22. Buzz Cason as Gary Miles
           From: Paul Urbahns 


Message: 1
   Date: Sat, 09 Aug 2003 11:41:13 +0100
   From: S'pop Team 
Subject: Important changes @ yahoo - fyi

Country Paul:
> Yahoo Groups has instituted changes in the files/photos 
> sections of their/our groups. 

Thanks for bringing this to the group's attention, Paul. 
The changes do not really affect the operation of 
Spectropop, with one important exception:

>From August 21st onwards, members who joined via email only,
i.e. members who do NOT have a Yahoo I.D., will no longer be
able to access the files (including musica) and photos areas.

And on the subject of musica, Yahoo appear to have introduced
quotas limiting the amount of files that can be downloaded
in one session.

Now that membership has recently crept above 1000, it seems
an apposite moment for a reminder that a moderator's task 
is greatly reduced if messages are signed and, when replying
to messages, the name of the original sender is given.


S'pop Team

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Message: 2 Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2003 10:11:30 +0100 From: David Young Subject: Happy birthday Ronnie Spector Hi, gang, A couple of weeks ago I finally acquired the ability (read: software) to enable me to play tracks to musica. I'd like to celebrate both that and Ronnie's August 10th birthday by sharing the rare mix of "Paradise" found on an instantly deleted 1989 Japanese Spector box set. Enjoy, and happy birthday, Ronnie! David -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 3 Date: Sat, 09 Aug 2003 13:57:51 -0000 From: Michael Edwards Subject: Rangoons on musica Entry #5 in the "Keepin' the Summer Alive" series is "Moon Guitar" by the Rangoons (Laurie, 1961). I tend to classify Burt Bacharach instrumentals as "orchestral". Nothing wrong with that as "Nikki" (Liberty, 1966) and "Pacific Coast Highway" (A&M, 1969) were very atmospheric but they weren't "rock". "Moon Guitar" by the Rangoons (now playing in musica) was recorded earlier and has a Duane Eddy-lite flavor to it. I love it when the sax kicks in. Apparently there are versions of "Moon Guitar" by Tommy Garret and Billy Vaughn out there and if anyone has one of these versions, please contact me. Meantime, keep the summer alive by listening to this great 45 on musica. Mike -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 4 Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2003 00:26:26 +0930 From: Norman Subject: Re: Look For A Star Re: Rob: Gary Miles & Garry Mills Look For A Star - The original British version The first time I heard this British classic was on the Sire Records 1975 compilation "Roots of British Rock". Although it was #1 in UK and #18 in South Australia, I can't say I consciously remember it when it first came out. I note that Deane Hawley and Billy Vaughn Orchestra also had hit versions of this song. And, Tony Hatch was only 18 years old when he wrote this classic! Some notes taken from Dave McAleer's "Hit Parade Heroes: British Beat Before The Beatles". Garry Mills recording of Tony Hatch's "Look For A Star" was released in 1960. It was Tony Hatch's first major success (written under the moniker of Mark Anthony). Garry Miles (Buzz Cason) was only one of a few American cover versions. Garry Mills had a go at covering Teen Angel and Seven Little Girls. He once voice dubbed Jess Conrad for a TV play called Rock A Bye Barney. "Look For A Star" was chosen for the film "Circus of Horrors" after being rejected for inclusion in Norman Wisdom's "Follow A Star". Garry Mills is the nephew of Jazz trumpeter Nat Gonella. McAleer cites Mills's "Top Teen Baby" as just missing the top twenty. Regards Norman -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 5 Date: Sat, 09 Aug 2003 10:01:52 -0400 From: Keith D'Arcy Subject: Re: Peggy Lipton Question Hi All, Does anyone know for certain if there are two Peggy Lipton LPs on Ode? I've got the eponymous one, but I've long heard rumors of a second LP called "Wear Your Love Like Heaven." I've got the 7-inch of same; evidently it featured prominently in a perfume ad at the time... is there an LP, and if anyone's got it, could you let us know what the track list is? Thanks very much, Keith -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 6 Date: Sat, 09 Aug 2003 07:49:02 -0700 (PDT) From: Artie Wayne Subject: Re: Gary Miles & Garry Mills Rob.......How ya' doin'? Your question raises another question for me. I wrote a song with Paul Vance, "Sad Little Girl" which was recorded by Gary Miles or Gary Mills and released about 6 months after "Look for a Star". Does anyone have any information on this? Thanks and regards, Artie Wayne -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 7 Date: Sat, 09 Aug 2003 12:51:17 EDT From: Jim Allio Subject: Re: Palm Springs Rockfest Allan Rinde writes: > Lesley Gore is headlining there on September 27. Jim Allio -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 8 Date: Sat, 09 Aug 2003 15:25:05 -0000 From: Alan V Karr Subject: Re: Gary Miles & Garry Mills Rob wrote: > I was interested in the note re: Gary Miles "Look For A Star". > I presume this is the same song released here in the U.K. by > Garry Mills. This is another Tony Hatch composition, it was > featured in a U.K. horror film called "Circus of Horrors". > I think Garry had 1 further hit over here called "Top Teen > Baby". Can anybody provide any updates? This was a classic ripoff by a rechristened singer later associated w/ the Crickets, Buzz Cason which siphoned off US sales. Later on UK Top Rank and US Imperial both came under the aegis of EMI and a reissue 45 came out Stateside with both versions! Mills next hit the UK Top 20 with TOP TEEN BABY on Rank and later scored a minor hit for Decca w/ Tepper-Bennett's I'LL STEP DOWN, which beat out a superior version by Lee Diamond and The Cherokees on Fontana. Within months, the Cherokees were backing Mills (this combo was short-lived) Regards, Alan V. Karr -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 9 Date: Sat, 09 Aug 2003 08:24:27 -0700 (PDT) From: Artie Wayne Subject: Bob Rashkow/ Janis Ian / The Groop ya' doin'? I've catching up on my E-mail and ran across a couple of things in one of your posts that I'd like to respond to. First, I'm glad to see Janis Ian being brought up so often.......I'm really proud to have represented her publishing company. The last time I saw her,was when I presented her with a 'Grammy' for "At Seventeen" at a pre- telecast awards ceremony.Though I hadn't represented her in years it felt like everything had come full circle. I was also a friend and collaborater of The Groops, Ronnie Charles. My late partner, Lou Reizner [who discovered and produced Rod Stewart, Rick Wakeman,etc.] had produced "Layla" with Ronnie backed by the London Symphony Orchestra incredible record!!! Russ Regan picked up the U.S. rights and wanted an album right away. Lou asked me to find some songs for him from catalogs I once represented. He recorded a few of my suggestions including the title track "Prestidigitation", by my friend Steven Schwartz ["Godspell", "Pocahontas"] regards, Artie Wayne -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 10 Date: Sat, 09 Aug 2003 19:11:34 -0000 From: Michel Gignac Subject: Re: Sire discography Doug wrote: > All this talk about Sire made me go dig out my back issues > of Who Put The Bomp (or just Bomp! later on), to find the > story they ran on the Sire label in issue #20 (January 1979). Doug, Thank you for the precious information. We're like archeologists who want to know from when some old bones date! "Something's Gone", by Jam, is not that much important to me (yet a good song), but I still want to determine when this single was out: 1968 or 1972! If you have the patience, would you please enumerate the titles and interpreters of the songs that were released on Sire 5001 (the flipside) to 5003? Maybe there will be some title or singer which will be easier to date. Science counts on you! -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 11 Date: Sat, 09 Aug 2003 20:05:31 -0000 From: Laura Pinto Subject: A special request - Ron Dante's birthday Hi folks. Ron Dante's birthday is coming up in two weeks, and as I do every year, I'm going to put up a special Happy Birthday page for him on my site. This year, though, it's going to be a little different ... rather than just a big, explosive HAPPY BIRTHDAY from me, I'd like to send Ron a virtual greeting card, with birthday wishes from as many people as possible! The page I make up will consist of several pix of Ron (from 1970 to the present) and some original wording, and at the bottom of the page I'll put a link to a second page that Ron, and other visitors to the page, can click to read everyone's birthday wishes. I'd like to include greetings from people from all walks of life ... fans, people with whom Ron has worked (famous or otherwise), and so on. And that's where you all come in! If you'd like to be including in this virtual greeting card, please email me (offlist) at my Yahoo account (lpintop @ and include the following: 1. Your birthday greeting to Ron. It can be as short or as long as you'd like, but please try to keep it below 50 words if possible because I'd like to fit a BUNCH of greetings on one page. Never fear, I'm not going to count every word! Just speak from your heart. 2. Please let me know if I should use your last name as well as your first name. I'll only use your first name unless I hear otherwise from you. 3. Please indicate if I can use your location (city, state/province, country) along with your name and greeting. It would be kind of cool, letting Ron see that he's getting birthday wishes from people all over the world! 4. Please let me know if I can use your email address on the page; i.e., when Ron (or anybody) clicks on your name, your email address will come up. I won't include the email address unless you say I can. 5. If you'd like a link to your homepage or site or group, just give me the site's name and URL. Each person can give me up to 2 sites to link along with their greeting. 6. And if you'd like a small photo of yourself displayed with your message, please include one with your email. I'll be shrinking them down, though, so that the page loads faster, so a closeup photo would be best. Thanks in advance. Laura -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 12 Date: Sat, 09 Aug 2003 20:11:32 -0000 From: Art Longmire Subject: Re: Chuck Woolery: He's still got it! Clark Besch wrote: > Say, did anyone happen to see the Chuck Woolery reality show > Aug 3 "Naturally Stoned" on the Game Show network? Hey Clark, I heard about that show and actually wish I had caught it. I have some of the solo singles Chuck Woolery did on Columbia after he left the Avant Garde and they aren't bad. And I love "Fly With Me" (note the early use of the synthesizer on that track). What's tough for me to imagine is Chuck as a Kingston Trio-type folkie. The record I mentioned in an earlier post by The Bordermen is a knockoff of the Kingston Trio style and sounds very "college student". It dates from 1964 and is probably the first record Chuck appeared on. Art Longmire -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 13 Date: Sat, 09 Aug 2003 21:04:07 -0000 From: Clarke Davis Subject: Re: Blackwells Single Mike: > I've been a Blackwells fan since I heard "You Took Advantage > Of Me". What's the story with this group? Can anyone post "You > Took Advantage of Me", it's a terrific song. I thought I was the only one in the western world who knew of a song by the Blackwells that is fantastic! "For Love or Money" was released sometime in the mid sixties, and as an AFN Nurnberg DJ, I remember the station had a transcription from AFRTS, which featured that song, which I played repeatedly. I have come to know they released a few singles on Guyden, but to my knowledge, "For Love or Money" just hasn't been released on CD anywhere. This is one of those great, elusive singles I have been searching for, and remembering for years. Anyone got anything on this group, or that particular single? -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 14 Date: Sat, 09 Aug 2003 23:29:36 -0400 (EDT) From: Andrew Jones Subject: U.P. GROOVES! I think the time has come to tell my fellow S'poppers about a project of my devising. I'm from the Upper Peninsula, or U.P., of Michigan. Until the mid-1980s, when a U.P. recording act released a commercial record, even if it was just a single, it was a fairly big event. I've taken it upon myself to chronicle these events - commercially-released records featuring U.P. talent, or with a U.P. connection - in a project I call U.P. GROOVES! I hope it'll all result in (at least) a series of locally-published articles, or a book, or (my greatest dream) a legitimate CD or CD series. Here are some of the recording acts covered: The Henchmen VI. The Vigilantes. The Rockatones. The French Chrch. The Renaissance Fair. Mike (later Cub) Koda. The Kinetics. The Benders. The Excels. The Innocence (not the "There's Got to Be A Word!" group). The Riot Squad (not the British band). The Prophets of Doom. Rocking Chair. The Fantastics (not the "Hit Records" soundalike "group," but a band from Northern Michigan University). And here are some of the labels: Cuca (Sauk City, WI - ). Princeton (Marquette, MI). Peninsula (Escanaba, MI). Music World (Escanaba, MI). Carla (Detroit, MI). Spoke (Manistique, MI). Big Sound (Wausau, WI). Studio City (Minneapolis, MN). Nuggett (Tennessee). If you have info about any of these groups, or any other info that might be useful, or any questions about the project, contact me OFF-list - but not at my primary e-mail address. All U.P. GROOVES! correspondence should go to Thanks! -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 15 Date: Sat, 09 Aug 2003 19:03:39 -0400 From: Country Paul Subject: 3 D's; Starsailor; Janis Ian; "Mind" movie; Statues Mike Rashkow: > No one, in my time with this group, has mentioned The Three > Degrees. Wonderful girls group out of Philly and did tons> > and tons of backgrounds before and after they got their one > big hit. "When Will I See You Again" I think it was. Don't forget the early hit - the wonderful doo-wop ballad, "Gee Baby I'm Sorry" on Swan. Brian: > Phil's new production for Starsailor is available on > Sounds like he > hired a drummer, someone with a triangle and someone who > wrote banal lyrics and murdered them with the "singing". If there had been a worthy song, maybe this would have had some merit. I'm disappointed. Wish I wasn't. Dave Feldman: > Has any teenager ever written and performed at the level > of "First Songs" and "Eli & the Thirteenth Confession?" > I can't think of any. I'd nominate the incredible Buddy Holly, in his late teens when he began having hits. Perhaps not at the level of sophistication of Laura Lyro, but certainly way ahead of his time; the lasting value of his output and sound proves that. The Laura Nyro "vs." Janis Ian talk reminds me of a quick tale - it was summer, 1965, and a friend (Sue Rozell, who had sung with the men of the Stone Poneys immediately pre-Ronstadt) was back east from the University of Arizona. We were kicking around Greenwich Village one night when I saw Bruce Murdoch, who had an LP on an MGM subsidiary, was playing at the Gaslight. We went in, sat down, and were treated to the opening act, Janis Ian, who I could have sworn had to be in her 20s for the sophistication she showed. We talked to her after her set, and when she said she was 15, our jaws dropped. I don't remember what she played and sang that night, but the impression is as clear as a bell. When "Society's Child" hit, neither Sue nor I were surprised. Mike Edwards: > ["Summertime Guy"] is topical also as it was written by > Chuck Barris, who was the subject of the recent George > Clooney flick, "Confessions Of A Dangerous Mind". Actor > Sam Rockwell turns in a deliciously sleazy performance > as Chuck Barris. I haven't seen it, but the movie has just been re-released in New York; it was apparently felt to be lost among too many others when it first came out. And Mike, re: summer songs - we can't forget the Jamies' baroque doo-wop "Summertime, Summertime," a two-time hit in 1958 and 1962. Norman: > [from an EP jacket] "Although he plays piano and drums, Garry > [Miles]'s main interest is singing. His first hit record, > Look For A Star, is featured in this album. He is backed by > The Statues, Hugh Jarrett and Richard Williams, also from > Nashville - center of the recording and music business in > the South" The Statues did a gorgeous version of "Blue Velvet" on Liberty - sort of expanding the Clovers' version into a big hifi sound. I knew they were from Nashville, but what else did they do? How many were there? "Blue Velvet" sounded like a group of 4 or 5, including a phenomenal bass singer. Country Paul (Back in play and only two digests behind) -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 16 Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2003 04:19:58 -0000 From: Bill Craig Subject: Re: Roemans Michael Gessner: > Does anyone have any of the ABC singles by The Roemans? Contry Paul: > I believe the core of the group subsequently became the > Atlanta Rhythmn Section. I think I heard something similar about The Candymen (Georgia Pines) also on ABC Paramount I believe. Were they not at one time Roy Orbison's backing Band? Bill Craig -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 17 Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2003 05:20:06 -0000 From: Tony Leong Subject: Jerry Butler and......? Hello Group: I need some insight here. In 1967, Jerry Butler cut a wonderful record called "I Dig You Baby", and the song features some BEAUTIFUL female back-up vocals throughout the song. Does anybody know who the back-up vocalists were??? Unfortunately, I dont know if the song was cut in NY or Chicago (if it was Chicago, should I consider it may have been the Opals singing???). HELP!!!!!! Tony -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 18 Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2003 01:32:06 EDT From: Frank Youngwerth Subject: Peggy Lipton Thanks, Don. Peggy does a nice version, with good support from the Blossoms. Go Hal Blaine! - still my favorite musician of all time. Hi to Bobster. Frank Youngwerth -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 19 Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2003 02:05:43 -0400 From: Country Paul Subject: Roemans, Shelby Flint, Palm Springs Jeff Lemlich, thanks for the excellent Roemans interview at I don't remember where I heard they became the Atlanta Rhythm Section - which they didn't, obviously - but the connection to the Allman Brothers Band is kinda cool. Now. if I could just find "Your Friend".... Steve Harvey: > She teamed up with this jazz guitarist for a CD. He > did the "Wouldn't It Be Nice" CD of jazz artists > tackling Brian Wilson tunes. She's on that one too. > So Shelby [Flint] is still kicking. I think his name is Tim Weston; I may have a CD they did together around. Will check. Glad to know all's well with her. What a voice! How's the Brian Wilson-jazz album? Allan Rinde: > For all you Southern California Spectropoppers, Lou, B.J. Thomas, > The Angels (featuring Jiggs and Peggy), Jay Siegel's Tokens (in a > very rare West Coast Appearance), Shirley Alston Reeves of the > Shirelles, Little Anthony & The Imperials, Chris Montez and a few > others, including your MC, Fabian, will be appearing in Palm Springs > at Rocktoberfest, which despite it's name actually occurs Sept. 26-28 > and is FREE. For more info, check out > Sounds like a very cool show - and probably the only thing in Palm Springs that IS free! (BTW, some of the artist bios on the webpage are priceless!) Country Paul (I can surrey - WITH fringe on top!) -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 20 Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2003 12:18:31 +0100 From: Austin Powell Subject: Gary Mills/Garry Miles - Look For A Star Rob wrote: > I was interested in the note re: Gary Miles "Look For A Star". > I presume this is the same song released here in the U.K. by > Garry Mills. This is another Tony Hatch composition, it was > featured in a U.K. horror film called "Circus of Horrors". > I think Garry had 1 further hit over here called "Top Teen > Baby". Can anybody provide any updates? Rob: Tony Hatch could tell the story much better than I, but...... This song started life as "Follow A Star" and was written by Tony Hatch, (under the nomme de plume, Mark Anthony) for the Rank Organisation film of the same name. In the event the film's star, Norman Wisdom, pulled rank (no pun intended) and Hatch's song became "Look For A Star" and was featured in the film "Circus Of Horror", starring Donald Pleasance. Hatch had the best of the deal in the end as versions of his song by Garry (Buzz Cason) Miles (Liberty 55261) and Billy Vaughan (Dot 16106) made # 16 and # 19 on Billboard's singles chart respectively. Mills continued to record for Top Rank until he moved to Decca in '61 and had a hit with "I'll Step Down". In Mark Newson's Joe Meek fan magazine "Thunderbolt" (issue 35) there's a feature which traces Mills's career, ending by saying he now (2002) works at an internet site selling airline tickets. Austin -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 21 Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2003 18:06:20 EDT From: Paul Urbahns Subject: Beg, Borrow And Steal I understand the song "Beg, Borrow and Steal" was issued by a group called the Rare Breed on an independent label, then the same recording was reissued on Cameo as by The Ohio Express. Is that so, or are they two different recordings? Paul Urbahns -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 22 Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2003 18:32:17 EDT From: Paul Urbahns Subject: Buzz Cason as Gary Miles Rob wrote: > I was interested in the note re: Gary Miles "Look For A > Star". I presume this is the same song released here in the > U.K. by Garry Mills. Yes Rob, it is. I spoke with Buzz Cason about 20 years ago about that and he said the record company not only copied the other guy's song, but his name too! I can't say I've ever heard the Gary Mills version, though I know it was issued in the US. Paul Urbahns -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------

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